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How to get cheaper Avios flight redemptions to the Middle East by exploiting the 3,000 mile rule

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When you redeem Avios on a British Airways partner airline, the points cost of your flight is based off a separate pricing chart.

This is it, as from June 2019 (click to enlarge):

Reward flight prices on BA partner airlines (plus taxes, fees and carrier charges)
Zone Distance Economy Premium Economy Business Class First Class
1* 1—650 miles 6,000 9,000 12,500 24,000
2 651—1,150 miles 9,000 12,500 16,500 33,000
3 1,150—2,000 miles 11,000 16,500 22,000 44,000
4 2,001—3,000 miles 13,000 25,750 38,750 51,500
5 3,001—4,000 miles 20,750 41,250 61,000 82,500
6 4,001—5,500 miles 25,750 51,500 77,250 103,000
7 5,501—6,500 miles 31,000 62,000 92,750 123,750
8 6,501—7,000 miles 36,250 72,250 108,250 144,250
9 7,001+ miles 51,500 103,000 154,500 206,000
* zone 1 does not apply to internal flights in North America
North America 1—650miles 7,500 15,000 30,000

It is marginally, but only marginally, more expensive in terms of Avios than redeeming for a British Airways flight.

Because it is driven by distance, and because the gap between Avios pricing bands can be substantial, there are often good savings to be made if you leave the UK to start a redemption.  As an added bonus, you will save on long-haul premium cabin Air Passenger Duty too.

Before we go on, you should note that – as you won’t be flying British Airways if you start a redemption outside the UK – you hit two problems:

  • you will be charged peak Avios pricing every day, as off-peak pricing only applies to BA flights

If these are not problems for you, read on.

I thought I would focus on the Qatar Airways flights to Doha today as an example, in case you are thinking of slotting in a quick break before the weather in Europe improves.

However, even if you have no interest in a Qatar Airways trip to Doha, the same principles can be used with other Avios partners.  For example, Cathay Pacific redemptions to Hong Kong require fewer Avios from some European cities because it pushes you into the lower price band.

Going back to my Middle East example, the good news for Avios collectors is that:

  • Qatar Airways is a British Airways Avios earning and spending partner
  • Qatar Airways now flies to pretty much everywhere in Europe 
  • Qatar Airways has an excellent reputation for its premium cabins
  • Qatar Airways releases at least FOUR business class seats per flight

There is, of course, a big downside.  Due to the continuing blockade of Qatar by the UAE and others, it is not possible to (easily) connect from Doha to Dubai, Abu Dhabi etc.  If you follow the tips in this article, you will be holidaying in Doha.  It IS still possible to fly to Oman on Qatar Airways from Doha.

Heading to the Middle East, the key cut-off point is 3,000 miles:

  • 3,000 – 4,000 miles (which includes the UK), a Business Class return to Doha is 124,000 Avios return on a partner airline
  • below 3,000 miles, a Business Class return to Doha is 77,500 Avios return on a partner airline

Here is a map showing you a 3,000 mile radius from Doha:

Any Avios redemption on Qatar Airways booked from a city inside the red line to Doha will price at 77,500 Avios return instead of the 124,000 Avios it would cost from London.

Here are some Qatar Airways departure cities that are close to the red line and which are in most cases easily accessible from UK regional airports, as well as Heathrow:

  • Berlin
  • Budapest
  • Copenhagen
  • Frankfurt
  • Geneva
  • Gothenburg
  • Helsinki
  • Kiev
  • Milan
  • Munich
  • Nice
  • Pisa
  • Prague
  • Rome
  • Vienna
  • Warsaw
  • Zagreb
  • Zurich

Here is an example of business class pricing to Doha, return, using Avios:

  • Frankfurt to Doha, Business Class – 77,500 Avios + £448
  • Copenhagen to Doha, Business Class – 77,500 Avios + £442
  • Rome to Doha, Business Class – 77,500 Avios + £400

If you REALLY want to do it on the cheap, try starting in Turkey.  Istanbul to Doha is under 2,000 miles so the Avios pricing is:

  • Istanbul to Doha, Business Class – 44,000 Avios + £252

It is important to check the aircraft type.  Qatar Airways is using short-haul planes on some niche European routes, although most of them still have flat bed seats.  From the cities above you will get a long haul aircraft, except for Istanbul where one of the daily services seems to be an A320.

The taxes are not cheap, unfortunately.  Whilst you will be saving a lot of Avios, you won’t be saving much on the taxes once you’ve added in the cost of getting to your starting point.

If you are interested in this idea, I suggest doing an open-jaw trip.  Fly out of one European city and back to a different one.  Tack on a bit of sightseeing in both.  This gives you two mini-breaks either side of your Middle East holiday, as well as saving you a lot of Avios.

You can learn more about redeeming Avios on airline partners in our beginner’s guide to spending Avios points here.


How to earn Avios from UK credit cards

How to earn Avios from UK credit cards (April 2024)

As a reminder, there are various ways of earning Avios points from UK credit cards.  Many cards also have generous sign-up bonuses!

In February 2022, Barclaycard launched two exciting new Barclaycard Avios Mastercard cards with a bonus of up to 25,000 Avios. You can apply here.

You qualify for the bonus on these cards even if you have a British Airways American Express card:

Barclaycard Avios Plus card

Barclaycard Avios Plus Mastercard

Get 25,000 Avios for signing up and an upgrade voucher at £10,000 Read our full review

Barclaycard Avios card

Barclaycard Avios Mastercard

5,000 Avios for signing up and an upgrade voucher at £20,000 Read our full review

There are two official British Airways American Express cards with attractive sign-up bonuses:

British Airways American Express Premium Plus

25,000 Avios and the famous annual 2-4-1 voucher Read our full review

British Airways American Express

5,000 Avios for signing up and an Economy 2-4-1 voucher for spending £15,000 Read our full review

You can also get generous sign-up bonuses by applying for American Express cards which earn Membership Rewards points. These points convert at 1:1 into Avios.

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold

Your best beginner’s card – 20,000 points, FREE for a year & four airport lounge passes Read our full review

The Platinum Card from American Express

40,000 bonus points and a huge range of valuable benefits – for a fee Read our full review

Run your own business?

We recommend Capital on Tap for limited companies. You earn 1 Avios per £1 which is impressive for a Visa card, along with a sign-up bonus worth 10,500 Avios.

Capital on Tap Business Rewards Visa

Huge 30,000 points bonus until 12th May 2024 Read our full review

You should also consider the British Airways Accelerating Business credit card. This is open to sole traders as well as limited companies and has a 30,000 Avios sign-up bonus.

British Airways Accelerating Business American Express

30,000 Avios sign-up bonus – plus annual bonuses of up to 30,000 Avios Read our full review

There are also generous bonuses on the two American Express Business cards, with the points converting at 1:1 into Avios. These cards are open to sole traders as well as limited companies.

American Express Business Platinum

40,000 points sign-up bonus and an annual £200 Amex Travel credit Read our full review

American Express Business Gold

20,000 points sign-up bonus and FREE for a year Read our full review

Click here to read our detailed summary of all UK credit cards which earn Avios. This includes both personal and small business cards.

Comments (204)

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  • QwertKnowsBest says:

    OT – Just taken the curve Metal card. Whilst the accompanying travel insurance is limited in some ways the T&C’s are far more transparent than the Amex Platinum cover with regards to pre-existing conditions.

  • Anon says:

    OT – due to a delay on a SWISS flight I missed a connection in Zurich and instead of going ZRH-LHR I went ZRH-FRA-LHR. I arrived in London over three hours late but I believe the airline will blame weather for any claims (although I’ll try).

    Any way to get points for the extra flight to Frankfurt though?

    • Concerto says:

      Always show your M&M card at each stage of the journey when there irrops, either a transfer desk or gate.

  • C says:

    Prompted by a mention of combine my avios the other day, I tried again to transfer 200 avios I have in Iberia from recent promotions to BA. When I go into both the BA and Iberia combine my avios pages, it says I can only move avios from BA to Iberia and not back again. When I try to push from Iberia to avios.com with my Vueling number, it says combine my avios is not available at the moment. When I try to access combine my avios at avios.com using my vueling number, I always get an error page with every browser! Any tips? It’s only 200 but would be a shame to have to abandon them!

    • Shoestring says:

      forget Vueling and set up an AerClub a/c as your middleman

      use http://www.avios.com/gb/en/signin to pull from IB then push to BAEC

    • Cam says:

      I got error messages that my account is not eligible for Combine my Avios, from my BA account. I tried creating a new AerClub account ,and that is also apparently inelible! My IB Plus account has been open for 2+ years. As there is an expiry date looming on my IB Plus miles, I’m hoping that an Amex MR transfer can come through in time.

      • Secret Squirrel says:

        Avios pulled in from IB then pushed to BA worked for me only a few days ago!

        • Rob says:

          To a BA HHA or a stand-alone BA account? Latter is working fine.

          • Cam says:

            Standalone in my case. All data matches, at least so far as it is visible on either the BA or IB webpage I even tried Microsoft Edge and Google Chrome on two different computers.

          • Rob says:

            Standalone has never been a problem. The new problem is from avios.com to BA HHA.

          • Shoestring says:

            there’s possibly no such problem, ie generally the cause of it not working is something else

            usually that is user error or failing to set up AerClub a/c – though the IT is also rubbish, has to be said

            – just transferred 150K Avios IB—>BAEC but that’s my wife’s standalone a/c
            – transferred 2000-odd Avios from Iberia—>avios.com—>BAEC just a couple of days ago – Household Account for myself & the kids

            CAM are you sure it is not a Household Account over at British Airways? anybody else in your household who might have created it? when you redeem Avios for a flight, does the exact correct total leave your a/c and your a/c only? or is it split across more than 1 account?(sorry to go on about it but that message saying you can send BA Avios to IB but not the other way round is the message you get with Household Accounts)

            other things that might help:
            – set up a new AerClub a/c with a completely different email address, no match is needed here
            – use http://www.avios.com/gb/en/signin to pull 1 Avios from BAEC to AerClub
            – staying logged in, then send the Avios back to BAEC – if all that works then you narrowed it down to IB
            – IB account must be over 90 days old and have earned an Avios point
            – change your IB password to a 6 digit numeric pin (123456 etc) – the IT bods have designed it to sometimes reject any other kind of password
            – make sure you only filled in the 1st surname field at Iberia – leave the 2nd surname field blank

          • Shoestring says:

            another thing @CAM – try a different browser

            Opera works fine with combine my Avios and setting up an AerClub a/c, so use that instead of your current browser (free download)

  • John W says:

    O/T – been watching flights to Asia as I still plan to go there in May have thought I should get a good deal ex EU or UK with Qatar considering the coronvirus – Prices from 3-4 weeks ago have shot up and UK departures are still 2K +
    What are peoples thoughts – Will we see low fares due to the virus or will airlines cut back instead. Cathay Pacific for instance – EU departures are still around £1700 even with empty planes going into HK

    Just wondering if I should pay around £1600 for EU – Or £1200 for Oslo …. or wait more ! (Was hoping for good UK price for a change ! )

    • marcw says:

      Airlines are just cutting capacity.

    • Polly says:

      12oo from osl would be our absolute max ex eu. It’s always a gamble knowing whether prices will tumble or they just reduce capacity.
      If you have to be there, it’s not a bad price.

    • Lady London says:

      I think I would only go somewhere I could afford to stay for 6 weeks or so in case I get stuck

  • Elvis says:

    Screw Qatar and their ‘taxes’ ripoff.

    • Rob says:

      Eh? BA pockets all the money you pay on Avios redemptions. Qatar doesn’t see any of it, beyond airport charges and APD.

      • Charlieface says:

        Do you know that for sure? I’ve always wondered what they do with YQ, bearing in mind it is listed as a charge on cash fares

      • eli says:

        Larnaca to Doha also 44000 + £324

        rip off taxes

  • TripRep says:

    Lazy or just shoddy?

    Surely should be surcharges and taxes.

    If it brevity you’re after how about using the word “fees” instead, it’s also likely to be the majority of the cash element.

    Maybe worth breaking it down to YQ/CIS charges, Airport/pax fees and taxes.

    “The taxes are not cheap, unfortunately. Whilst you will be saving a lot of Avios, you won’t be saving much on the taxes once you’ve added in the cost of getting to your starting point.”

  • Tim says:

    Any creative ideas for getting from Manchester to Dubai one-way in March 2021? Emirates fly direct but their cash fare one way is as much as a return and three times that of going via Istanbul with low-cost operator Pegasus. BA’s taxes for a business class redemption are hideous (via Heathrow). I need a creative solution….

    • TripRep says:

      Inverness to DXB redemption?

    • Rich says:

      Do you have any Amex MRs?

      I booked Dubai-Newcastle on KLM last month for 42,500 Delta Skymiles + £37 and it was a very pleasant flight. Horrible departure time though of 2am!

    • Matthew says:

      Etihad fly from MAN to Abu Dhabi. Taxes and surcharges about £220 for business class. Best to use AA miles (42,500) via Marriott if you have any. Then just get a taxi from AUH which is about 50mins apparently.

    • ankomonkey says:

      Pegasus are perfectly acceptable if you’ll accept an LCC.

      • Graham says:

        Pegasus? Not sure about that. They’ve had 3 accidents since Jan 2018. Hardly a great track record.

      • marcw says:

        Aren’t they like experts in landings? 😉

        • Graham says:

          Very much so. Seem to be experts in tarmac landings followed by unexpected further rapid descents.

          Not good.

    • Sandgrounder says:

      For this march, KLM with virgin miles is 50k and 145 euro for AMS-DXB, MAN-AMS 4k and £27. It’s 50k plus £298 for one booking. Obviously much more expensive, but I didn’t realise they were giving free connections from regional UK to AMS. I must have missed that one. It’s 50k and 660AED the other way, not bad but obviously not as cheap as the Delta example.

      • Sandgrounder says:

        I remember now, it’s based on the distance, not the legs. Of course.

      • Rob says:

        Yes, its O&D pricing (as they call it) so the connection is free unless it pushes you into a higher mileage band. You save on APD by having separate tickets though.

    • Yorkieflyer says:

      Just go to Istanbul which is far more interesting than Dubai

    • Bagoly says:

      35k M&Ms + GBPc360 at Lufthansa offers multiple routes.
      One less-known possibility is Ethiopian (their Business Class is good) fly MAN-ADD-DXB.
      There is a stop (you don’t get off the ‘plane) in BRU.
      When changing at ADD, Economy and Business go to separate gates (the big boards only mention the former, which you want to avoid).

      ISTR Rob recommending Krisflyer (using transfer from Amex MR points) as the best value for Europe – ME: still 35k miles but less cash?

      • Rob says:

        M&M has various options – you can save a bit on taxes by using Egyptair for example via Cairo! Fewer choices from MAN obviously. If transferring from Amex then Singapore is fewer miles.

  • TripRep says:

    No bits.

    Norwegian share price in free fall. Plenty of airline stocks suffering due to nCov19

    Be interested to see lots of deals this Spring

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