Here’s the deal British Airways pilots have agreed to minimise redundancies

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• Neil McDougall says:

  12 Jul12 July 10:23

  Also a number of captains maybe demoted because the majority of those on compulsory redundancy will be first officers. Hope not but if they do then that is a 45% pay cut.

  • Nick says:

    12 Jul12 July 10:44

    Lol that’s ‘cause and effect’ of the LIFO element BALPA pushed so hard to keep… if you keep the oldest-serving first in a world where you have previously refused to accept DEP Captains, then you cause by default an imbalance in rank. They could have accepted an alternative that avoided potential demotions, but not only did they choose not to, they actually fought hard to make it that way.

• the_real_a says:

  12 Jul12 July 12:47

  Is this the first time that workplace redundancy consultation has actually worked?

  • Bagoly says:

    13 Jul13 July 08:33

    It’s true that it is rare, and good, to hear about an effort to spread the pain.
    It may not be precisely “fair”, but it’s seems more reasonable than just x% lose all income and the rest carry on as before.
    Probably only easy to do where:
    a) job is highly skilled so pay is starting high
    b) people can (within groups) be swapped between roles at short notice.

• Margaret Morrison says:

  12 Jul12 July 14:20

  What happens to pilots that had signed s contract to start in April, then didn’t? They have been in holding pool since December. They have also left good pilot jobs with other airlines.

• steve says:

  12 Jul12 July 16:53

  Love the idea of pilots doing other jobs such as cabin crew. As if cabin crew aren’t suffering enough without donating their jobs to the pilots who stitched them up in the last industrial action.

  • Jeff says:

    13 Jul13 July 11:53

    What are you on about? 🤦‍♀️

  • Sims says:

    13 Jul13 July 17:46

    Pilots are not operating as Cabin Crew.

• Chris Heyes says:

  12 Jul12 July 22:34

  confused @ why are so many HFP readers so concerned how a system works,
  What BA employee’s do ect If a employee decides to earn a fortune whilst getting payed
  for not flying ie Acting, singing, dancing, working from home
  Not volunteering to go back flying and stopping on pay from pilots that are flying
  What difference does it make to HFP readers ?
  I once worked a 4 day week,after power cuts finished it was my fellow employees who objected to management because of their jealousies, i was very happy only working only 4 days
  Management didn’t mind either paying me a days less pay

  • Brian W says:

    13 Jul13 July 00:24

    Is English your first language @Chris Heyes?

    • Chris Heyes says:

      13 Jul13 July 13:58

      Brian W@Didn’t realize you was so worried what my first language is Brian W lol

  • Rob says:

    13 Jul13 July 09:08

    Because 70% of our UK readers are London-based professionals who – as bankers, consultants etc – have a genuine interest in how businesses are structured.

    When you walk into a restaurant or a theatre, do you immediately look around the room, mentally count the number of seats and then work out how much money that venue makes per night? If you work in finance, that’s what you do. It’s second nature, it’s in your blood. It’s like how doctors (so one told me) tend to stare at people on trains and try to work out what health conditions that person has.

    • Chris Heyes says:

      13 Jul13 July 14:23

      Rob @ Sorry to say when walk into a restaurant i look where my table is have a got a good spot
      Is the food really really good, i don’t even look around if a film star was in i wouldn’t even notice
      Now my partner would but she’s noisy lol
      When i watch a film i couldn’t even tell you who’s in it because i’m only interested if the films any good, unfortunately very few are, i can’t stand any films you know the endings within 5min lol
      But each to his own If you like looking at seats & working out how much someone makes good for you who am i to judge
      Rob i once bought a share on “AIM” for 4p a share went up to over £4 a share have you got near that for yourself ? (i think it was £4.34 when i sold a few weeks before 9.11 lucky or what

    • Lady London says:

      13 Jul13 July 15:23

      I thought it was just me!

      It also applies if you do a sport to a high level. You get very analytical when you’re watching your own sport or any similar sport – and keep sizing up people you meet ‘are they built for my sport’ ‘do they move in the right way’ etc

      My partner could take a look of 2-5 seconds over a field of 50-100 competitors in the first round and could name the winner then and there – that would be crowned 5-10 rounds later.

      • Chris Heyes says:

        13 Jul13 July 18:01

        Lady London@ Wow you have a very talented partner
        But people can be deceiving looks and actions, i competed at a fairly high level
        Olympic qualify time Marathon run in AA Championships, London, New York ect 1980s slightly earlier
        When i was training, i used to do a long training session on a Wed night which i used to come last or next to last with Blackburn Harriers
        When it got to the Marathon race they couldn’t keep up with me (they couldn’t believe it lol)
        What they didn’t know was on that Tuesday they rested before Wed night training i’d run 10/15 miles
        and on the Wed I’d already run 5 miles morning, 5 miles lunch then 2/3 miles to meet them lol
        I was coming last because i was gone by then lol
        My first Marathon was 3.15, 2nd was 2.45, 3rd 2.25,Olympic Qualifying time rest around 2.20/25
        i was training around 100/120 miles every week, there was no professional athletes them days

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