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Aer Lingus gets US approval to join the BA / AA / Iberia / Finnair transatlantic joint venture

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The US Department of Transport has now given its final approval to the Aer Lingus application to join the British Airways and American Airlines transatlantic joint venture. Iberia and Finnair are also part of the agreement.

Approval by the European Commission is expected to follow shortly but is not expected to create any issues.

This means that all five airlines will be able to co-ordinate scheduling and pricing on flights between Europe and the US.

Aer Lingus A321LR

In such a joint venture, all revenues are pooled and re-distributed based on an internally agreed formula. When you buy a flight to New York on British Airways, part of your fare goes to Iberia, American Airlines, Finnair and now Aer Lingus.

According to the US DOT, Aer Lingus currently has a 44% market share of flights between Ireland and the US. The joint venture will now have a 60% share as the American Airlines services to Ireland will be included.

There is, however, strong competition (given the size of the domestic Irish market) from other carriers. This is expected to increase now that the new generation of single aisle aircraft have the range to fly from Ireland to the US East Coast.

This is good news for those of us in the UK. As part of the joint venture, transatlantic Aer Lingus flights will now give full Avios and tier points even if other Aer Lingus flights do not. Aer Lingus flights previously did not earn British Airways Executive Club tier points so this is a big improvement.

This will be particularly good news for readers in the Manchester area, with direct Aer Lingus services to New York, Boston and Orlando due to start next Summer.

You need to assume that the Aer Lingus partnership with United is now on the way out. This will remove one of quirks of the Avios programme – you were able to earn Avios by flying to the USA with Star Alliance member United, as long as you credited them to Aer Lingus AerClub.

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Comments (42)

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  • Anna says:
    23 Dec23 December 09:48

    Does anyone know without having to look it up, how many avios it will be for MAN-NYC/BOS on Aer Lingus? I’m hoping that off peak it might be doable even without being able to use a 2 4 1!

  • Nick_C says:
    23 Dec23 December 11:32

    It’s 10 years since I flew Aer Lingus in economy, but I found the service friendly, the seats comfortable, and the free food and drink perfectly acceptable for an economy product.

    Aer Lingus offer cheap one way tickets to the US, and pre clearance in Dublin or Shannon is excellent. I would rather clear the border in Ireland than at JFK.

    Reputation? They’ve been flying the Atlantic for 60 years. My dad used them regularly in the 60s and 70s and spoke highly of them. They have better customer ratings than BA on SkyTrax.

    Like most of the legacy airlines, their reputation has been devalued by following the LCC model on short routes, but to the best of my knowledge they always remained a full service airline on the long haul routes. And if you want something better than an economy meal, you get pre order a business class type meal for €27 https://www.aerlingus.com/experience-aer-lingus/dining/transatlantic-economy/#/tab-0-bia-pre-order

    I hope Aer Lingus do well in their expansion from Manchester. People living in the north deserve more options.

    For me, the most exciting thing about EI being in the JV is that I may be able to fly outward to JFK via Ireland and pre clear the border, returning on BA on the daytime flight.

  • Nick_C says:
    23 Dec23 December 11:52

    It is being reported elsewhere that in addition to the two new A321s, Aer Lingus will be transferring two of its A330s to Aer Lingus UK.

  • Tiff says:
    23 Dec23 December 12:02

    Accor also offering 15% extra value on gift cards, plus bonus points, valid for UK hotels only.
    https://gb.accor-giftcards.com/

    • Guernsey Globetrotter says:
      23 Dec23 December 12:21

      Good spot – I picked up on this offer this week too – got a £290 voucher for £250 plus a 1,500 point bonus (worth another €30) so I reckon overall around a 23/24% discount.
      The Sofitels at Gatwick and LHR are decent and being from Guernsey we often have to overnight in London as part of travel connection plans. The only issue with this is that the vouchers must be used within 12 months of purchase and 2021 outlook is still pretty dodgy …

      • Rich says:
        23 Dec23 December 12:39

        I would be shocked couldn’t go anywhere all year. I’m predicting it may be similar to last summer again, but who knows?

        • Paul says:
          23 Dec23 December 13:24

          Hopefully vaccine certificates don’t become the norm as based on the Covid vaccine calculator online for me – 48 yr old male with no existing conditions- I’m going nowhere until August 2021. 😷🙁

          • Nick_C says:
            23 Dec23 December 13:52

            I’m hoping something like vaccination certificates do become the norm, but the logistics would be interesting. The NHS are not providing them anyway. Presumably, a vulnerable person who gets a complete NHS vaccination should not then be vaccinated a second time. And people needing a vaccination purely to travel abroad should be paying for it privately. But then while supplies are limited, they could be robbing a vulnerable person of an opportunity to get vaccinated in order to get back to a normal life.

            Perhaps certificates showing antibodies and a negative covid test might be the way forward. People who have recovered from Covid may not need to be vaccinated.

          • marcw says:
            23 Dec23 December 19:35

            They won’t do it. It’s a global virus – it can live everywhere. Hence, all countries will vaccinate their citizens. Once an important % of their vulnerable population has been vaccinated, they will slowly open their borders (if they haven’t yet).
            Vaccine certificates won’t be available.

          • Jack says:
            23 Dec23 December 21:12

            I’m 26 but with two pre-existing conditions, it has me between February 2021 – March 2021, just in time for summer ;).

  • Rhodesgolfer says:
    23 Dec23 December 12:27

    Dearest HFP members,
    Would you recommend buying BA flight now (in the Sale) or do you think there shall be a better deal on Boxing Day?
    I would value your opinions.

    • NoItall says:
      23 Dec23 December 15:35

      I would NEVER recommend buying BA.

      This “sale” is -as usual- a con.

      Look elsewhere

  • Andrew says:
    23 Dec23 December 12:31

    So, with the potential end of United credits to Aer Lingus, am I better off crediting miles to United, Air Canada or somewhere else?

    It’s probably just one transatlantic United flight a year I do on Star Alliance, with one planned Air Canada trip for 2022.

  • Jack says:
    23 Dec23 December 21:42

    Did I miss BA offering COVID test discounts?!

    https://www.britishairways.com/en-gb/information/incident/coronavirus/covid19-tests

    Good to know anyway.

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