Your EHIC travel insurance card has been reprieved and will still be valid tomorrow

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• TOBIAS L says:

  31 Dec31 December 13:39

  Rob,

  Thanks for being more open today with your views than you normally (and understandably) are given your semi-public profile through this site, and risk of alienating visitors. This subject, if any, definitely merits it given the jaw-dropping amount of stupidity it took to choose this path for the country.

  For what its worth from an anonymous poster, I wholeheartedly agree with your views and applaud the few remaining people who stick to their logic despite this sinking, flaming, narrow-minded xenophobic ship which once promised so much but is now engulfed in a misplaced sense of nostalgia and delusions of grandeur.

  To the Brexiteers here arguing petty non-sensical points, I take comfort in the fact you’ve been so active on this site with acrimony and bile during what should be a festive and cheerful period, clearly evidencing what we all know is your abyss of resentment and bitterness eating you inside. It’s a sad, but expected, display of your experiences in this world which has led you to become this angry embitterred way you are.

  From someone who only took out a couple of minutes of an otherwise fun filled day, I’m signing off from 2020, wishing (some of) you a great start to 2021!

  • Tocsin says:

    31 Dec31 December 14:16

    Hold up a mirror, Tobias!

    acrimony…
    bile…
    bitterness…

  • the_real_a says:

    31 Dec31 December 14:44

    Yuk.

  • Anna says:

    31 Dec31 December 17:16

    What an utterly bizarre statement. There is no reason on earth for Leave voters to be acrimonious or bitter, but thank you anyway for taking time out of your fun-filled day (so leaving can’t actually be that bad) to spout such a load of sour grapes and drivel. Happy New Year!

    • James says:

      1 Jan1 January 01:30

      Leave voters only have acrimony and bitterness. Now we’re ‘out’ if the EU it will turn to the ever more to the BBC, lawyers, judges, critical thinking MPs, teachers, universities etc.

• Nick_C says:

  31 Dec31 December 14:55

  “To the Brexiteers here arguing petty non-sensical points,”

  I think it’s the Remoaners who continue to argue. And to no avail. The Brexiteers won the argument four and a half years ago.

  Time for all of us to move on.

  • Navara says:

    31 Dec31 December 15:12

    +17,410,741

    • illuminatus says:

      31 Dec31 December 15:39

      Well said

    • Anna says:

      31 Dec31 December 17:18

      What Navara said +1. It’s never the Leave supporters who twist whatever article is posted on HFP into a diatribe on Brexit!

      • James says:

        1 Jan1 January 01:32

        Anna, you do this ALL THE TIME.
        Thanks for the funny to end 2020 with.

  • ChrisC says:

    31 Dec31 December 16:50

    If you want people to move on then stop using school yard insults like “remoaners”

    • Joe says:

      31 Dec31 December 16:53

      After the atrocious language and behaviour directed at leave voters I’ll do no such thing. It only applies to those who don’t accept the result in any case.

      • Dick Steele says:

        31 Dec31 December 18:42

        The thing is…all the insults levelled between both sides mean absolutely nothing. It won’t change anything that’s happened.

        Yet those who feel strongly about Brexit spend literally all day on Twitter in an echo chamber without realising the futility of what they are doing.

        If anything, Gina Miller facilitated Brexit

      • Callum says:

        1 Jan1 January 11:51

        I’ve always found it amusing how people so adamant that we need to “get our sovereignty back” and “rebuild democracy” often simultaneously angrily declare that everyone MUST support their personal policial opinion.

        Perhaps you’re new to the idea of democracy, but opposing things is actually a very crucial component of it… What next? “The Conservatives won the general election, Labour MUST accept the result, stop moaning and agree with absolutely everything Boris wants without complaint”?

    • Nick_C says:

      31 Dec31 December 17:06

      It was a response to someone using the word “Brexiteer”. I don’t think either is appropriate, but to make a point to someone you sometimes need to come down to their level.

      • J says:

        31 Dec31 December 21:23

        ‘Brexiteer’ was coined by the Leave campaign as part of strategy to redefine Brexit post referendum. Not entirely sure how that is comparable against ‘Remoaner’ which was designed as an insult to shut down debate.

    • TGLoyalty says:

      31 Dec31 December 23:56

      +16.4m

• Joe says:

  31 Dec31 December 16:10

  How about the other way around?

  Can I use my Swiss EHIC card in the UK? I’ve tried googling but struggling to find info.

• Charlieface says:

  31 Dec31 December 17:31

  The most hilarious thing about the EHIC is it is effectively only there for insurance companies. No-one should be travelling without insurance, and policies usually state you must use an EHIC otherwise you pay a higher excess.

  • Callum says:

    1 Jan1 January 12:06

    Not really. It’s there to prove eligibility for healthcare, a right we used to have as EU residents (and thankfully looks like we’ll continue to have under new arrangements). I prefer to self-insure most of my EU trips because of it (however unwise you may deem it to be).

    There’s no doubt it helps insurers (though given premiums are far lower because of it, I’m not sure by how much), but it’s clearly not why it exists. Likewise with our other reciprocal arrangements in places like Australia and New Zealand.

• A says:

  31 Dec31 December 18:00

  I still don’t see any leave voters providing any substantial benefit. Please could you explain what you have won us? Where is the opportunity?

  • Nick_C says:

    31 Dec31 December 18:08

    Probably because they don’t see any value in reopening an issue that was settled four and a half years ago, that is totally off topic in a discussion about the EHIC/GHIC scheme.

    • A says:

      31 Dec31 December 18:23

      Materially the GHIC scheme appears to be a net reduction in benefit compared to the previous EHIC scheme (four non-EU countries listed above are no longer covered by your EHIC. ) So are there any benefits from the trade deal for travellers or not?

      • Rob says:

        31 Dec31 December 18:36

        Of course not. The whole point of Brexit is to make travel more difficult, or impossible. You can no longer live or work in the EU. You can no longer visit for long periods. You will need an ESTA to visit from 2022. Your retirement plans in Spain are over. You need 6 months on your passport to be allowed in. You will have to join the non-EU/EEA queue in most countries.

        • Dick Steele says:

          31 Dec31 December 18:39

          “You can no longer live or work in the EU” because of Brexit?

          Why are you so many non-EU nationals working across the EU then?

        • TT says:

          31 Dec31 December 21:19

          Unless you are a European living in the UK!!… We have now the benefit of Europe Via our passport, and benefits of Brexit whilst living in the UK ( if any)….. time will tell!!

        • TT says:

          1 Jan1 January 09:18

          We are guests in foreign counties and they in ours

        • John says:

          1 Jan1 January 18:59

          Spanish suddenly going to be able to afford to buy their own empty villas then Rob?

          I thought you of all people would know that money talks. Relatives of mine moved out to Spain long before free movement.

          The problem with free movement to work is that it’s only the poorer, more pillaged by the richer MS (especially Germany with East to West) that make use of it. The vast majority of educated and skilled Brits, Germans, Dutch would have always been eligible to move around without issue.

          Nanny’s for Kensington mums, and to keep Dad warm- have just got a bit more expensive.

        • Rob says:

          1 Jan1 January 20:02

          There have been no EU nannies available in London since the Brexit vote. We couldn’t get a German at any price.

      • Darren says:

        1 Jan1 January 21:45

        @A, a couple of reports mention U.K. negotiating with Switzerland/EFTA to include them in reciprocal arrangements so this may change

    • James says:

      1 Jan1 January 01:36

      Nice way of avoiding an answer Nick.

  • J says:

    31 Dec31 December 21:26

    Pretty sure they’ll all be pushing hard on the benefits of an India trade deal soon enough. You know, the sort of deal the EU were going for that was vetoed by the UK, because Theresa May (as home secretary) didn’t like the idea of having to trade some visas in exchange.

  • Magic Mike says:

    31 Dec31 December 22:08

    Is that you Lord Adonis?

    Anyway surely 2021 is the year we stop arguing about Brexit?

• A says:

  31 Dec31 December 18:51

  Dick Steele, leave it out, Rob obviously means without having to get a visa. EU ESTA by 2022, great 🙁
  Anyway have a great new years everyone.

• William Kerr says:

  31 Dec31 December 20:04

  if you want to do anything enough you will always find a way……

  • Nick says:

    31 Dec31 December 20:21

    Yes… but marrying a Frenchman for a visa is not the ‘just turn up’ we had before. Yes some things will still be possible, but many many times harder, and with no real benefit in return. It’s a very sad day.

    • Dick Steele says:

      31 Dec31 December 20:59

      Surely a tall, dark, handsome Italian?

• William Kerr says:

  31 Dec31 December 20:06

  save your breaths and just get on with it…!

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