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Holiday lessons (3): Buying hotel points works – here’s how we saved 62% on our room

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I spent 17 nights in the Middle East over Christmas and New Year. I had to use a variety of techniques to get the cost of this trip down, since we booked at short notice and hotel costs were not far behind what you would pay in the Maldives or Barbados.

Instead of reviewing each stage of the trip, I want to focus on lessons worth sharing.

The first article in this three-part series was called ‘Avios is not always the answer’ and you can find it here. It explains why – on specific routes and in specific flight classes – other airline schemes can offer far better value even if you have a British Airways Amex 2-4-1 companion voucher.

The second article was called ‘Earn and burn is not always your best strategy‘. It explains why it can make sense to sit on your miles and points, turning down opportunities to redeem for ‘average’ value, until a blockbuster redemption comes along.

This is the third of the three articles – apologies for the delay in getting around to this one. I am trying to keep the story in chronological order, so at this point it is Christmas Eve and we have checked out of The Ritz Carlton Al Wadi Desert Resort in Ras Al Khaimah (website here) and headed over to Waldorf Astoria Dubai Palm Jumeirah.

I am not going to review the hotel because I have covered it before – see my 2019 Waldorf Astoria Dubai review here. It was full over Christmas and, not unexpectedly, less pleasant than staying at a half-empty hotel, but it did the job.

Let’s call today’s topic:

‘Buying hotel points works, and anyone can do it’

Something that we don’t really focus on much on HfP is the difference between deals that anyone can do, instantly, and those which require a substantial lead time.

If we write about a good hotel sale, it is clearly open to anyone.

However, if you want to fly to New York in First Class on a British Airways American Express 2-4-1 companion voucher, it requires a LOT of preparation. Even if you already have enough Avios from business travel, you need to get the credit card and spend £10,000 on it. This takes time and a lot of forward planning. Many people will also need to earn additional Avios and may, for example, need to pick up other card sign-up bonuses such as Amex Gold (20,000 points) before getting the BA Amex.

Buying hotel points to slash the cost of your peak time stay is a ‘travel hack’ that is open to anyone. Some schemes have modest restrictions, such as insisting that your account has been open for a few weeks before you can buy points, but that is about it. In most cases, buying points is a deal that someone who has no day-to-day interest in miles and points can take advantage of.

How did this work out at Waldorf Astoria Dubai Palm Jumeirah?

Because Jumeirah, the Dubai-controlled hotel group, controls the best beachside spots, there are surprisingly few high quality resorts controlled by the six major global hotel brands. The other prime beach options are also not available on points because they were allocated to ‘super-premium’ operators – One & Only, Four Seasons and Mandarin Oriental.

You can define ‘resort’ in different ways, but I am thinking of a hotel like the one in the picture above – a low-rise wide property with a substantial amount of exclusive beach frontage, multiple pool and dining options and water-view rooms.

IHG has nothing in Dubai that fits this description. Marriott has a few options but they are older resorts and getting tired. I haven’t visited the new Andaz from Hyatt yet but it does not meet my definition of a resort as outlined above. Radisson has nothing of note. If you want to use points for a luxury beach resort, the Waldorf Astoria is your best bet at the moment.

Let’s look at the numbers

The maximum points price for the Waldorf Astoria is 80,000 Hilton Honors points per night, and unsurprisingly this is what they charge over Christmas.

Hilton offers ‘five for four’ if you have status (you get Gold status free with American Express Platinum). This took our cost per night for a five night stay down to 64,000 points per night.

Each room cost 320,000 Hilton Honors points for five nights.

For cash, it would have cost Dhs 15,406 for five nights including taxes, which at the time was £3,274. This price was fully in line with other hotels of the same calibre, not that many had rooms left over Christmas Day. As we needed two rooms, we were looking at a £6,500+ bill if we paid cash.

At the time we booked, Hilton Honors was running a 100% bonus for buying points. It is running the same offer today – see here – but it does end today, Monday 8th. I wouldn’t be too concerned about missing out, however, as the deal is virtually certain to return.

Hilton had also doubled the annual cap for buying points. Instead of being restricted to 80,000 points per year, doubled to 160,000 points, I was able to buy 160,000 points per account and see it doubled to 320,000 points. This is NOT part of the current offer, so if you buy points today you are limited to 80,000 with a further 80,000 as your bonus.

Because we needed 640,000 points to make this booking, we needed to buy a LOT of points. I had around 150,000 in my Hilton Honors account so I topped those up to 320,000 with a purchase.

Let’s focus on our 2nd room, booked via my wife’s account. She had a Hilton Honors balance of zero, because we always use ‘points pooling’ to send any points she earns over to me.

We bought 320,000 points for 0.5 cents each during a ‘100% bonus’ sale in December. This cost us $1,600 which, at the time, was £1,250.

What did we save?

Let’s compare the two options here:

  • 5 nights at Waldorf Astoria Dubai booked for cash = £3,274
  • 5 nights at Waldorf Astoria Dubai booked by buying Hilton points with a 100% bonus = £1,250

We saved 62% on our booking taking the cost down to just £250 per night per room.

(I had a little smile at one point when I heard a guest complaining to a member of staff about the lack of sunbeds given that he had paid ‘$1,000 per night’ …..)

Can ANYONE do the same without any previous miles and points knowledge?

In this particular case, it is not totally true that someone with zero miles and points knowledge could get the same deal.

Hilton’s ‘five for four’ deal on redemption nights is only available to people with Silver Elite status or higher. Without this, you would have needed to buy $400 of points per night, which was £312 in December.

Your saving would ‘only’ be 52% instead of the 62% we got.

More importantly, Hilton DOES restrict new members from buying points immediately. The rule is:

A new Hilton Honors Member may purchase Points 30 days after enrollment if the account reflects activity including a stay (as defined herein) or earning Hilton Honors Points through a Hilton Hilton Honors Marketing Partner. After 90 days of enrollment, a new Member is eligible to purchase Points regardless of their account activity.

This means that a new member would need to wait a month, assuming they were willing to do a cheap mattress run at their nearest budget Hilton property. Most ‘buy points’ promotions run for more than 30 days so it would still be possible.


The restriction on brand new Hilton Honors members buying points immediately does make it slightly trickier for someone with no miles and points background to slash their hotel costs using this method.

It certainly isn’t a total deal-breaker, however. Other chains have other rules which are less restrictive – IHG Rewards does not appear to restrict new members from buying points immediately, for example.

Buying points is rarely such a great deal as in my example. Obviously prices are high in beach resorts over Christmas Day. If you have always been put off from going away at Christmas due to the crazy cost of prime hotels, buying points can be one way around it.

Hotel offers update – February 2024:

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Want to buy hotel points?

  • Hilton Honors is offering an 80% to 100% bonus when you buy points by 12th March 2024. Click here.
  • IHG One Rewards is offering an 80% bonus when you buy points by 7th March 2024. Click here.
  • Marriott Bonvoy is offering a 35% to 40% bonus when you buy points by 31st March 2024. Click here.
  • World of Hyatt is offering a 20% discount when you buy points by 9th April 2024. Click here.

Comments (94)

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  • Lee says:

    Although the person paying $1000 per night was also earning a lot of points 🙂

    • ChrisC says:

      Only if they were members of the scheme.

      And a lot of people aren’t.

      Which is better for those of us that are!

      • BuildBackBetter says:

        Or only if they had booked direct. Many of my friends head straight to a travel agent or airline holidays to book a hotel.

        • Anna says:

          And pay on a non points-earning debit card 😫

          • RussellH says:

            And they probably do that even though they have a credit card “because they do not want to get into debt”.
            Thus throwing away their S.75 rights.
            I find it amazing just how few people are aware of S.75

  • Harry says:

    Rob, what about the lost Hhonors points that you would have earned especially as Gold or Diamond member had you paid with cash? Shouldn’t this be taken into account when calculating?

    • John says:

      Yes it should.

      • Tyler Durden says:

        that’s not the point of the article, what about the lost Marriott points for not staying at a Marriott? You cant lose something you didn’t have.

        • Chrisasaurus says:

          If you’re comparing the cash vs points rate of the WA then of course it’s relevant

    • Rob says:

      Should have, but it complicates the narrative and doesn’t make any real difference to the numbers because of the scale of the gap.

      It is also a circular argument, because at some point you need to spend those Hilton points and whenever you do spend them, you negate the points earned. You can’t avoid this in the long run.

  • Peter K says:

    If only Rob had moved across some Virgin Atlantic miles earlier in the year. “I don’t need 2 million Hilton points”. Turns out you did need half a million though 😉
    That would have been a 100% saving on cost.

    • marcw says:


    • Chrisasaurus says:


    • Harry T says:

      Lol savage

    • TGLoyalty says:


      Let’s not start the “Rob what are you doing with your virgin points questions” again

    • Rob says:

      I paid 0.4p for the Hilton points, so 0.6p per Virgin Point equivalent. As long as I get more than 0.6p for the Virgin Points then I’m still on top!

      • Jack Montgomery says:

        Hard to see the logic in holding out for >0.6p per point sometime in the future and being down £1250 immediately, against getting 1.5p per point for a virgin point and zero cash

        • Rob says:

          I wasn’t getting 1.5p per Virgin Point. I was getting 0.6p per Virgin Point, since 1 Virgin = 1.5 Hilton.

          That said, it is a fair point saying that I could have taken 0.6p per Virgin Point and been happy to have cashed out at that level. If they had transferred overnight I may have done it. In reality, Virgin transfers to Hilton can take up to 28 days and we booked about 10 days before departure.

          I also haven’t lost anything, since I can still do the same transfer today if I want.

          • Navara says:

            Can you convert Virgin to Hilton online or is it by phone call?

          • Rob says:

            Phone or WhatsApp / test message

          • Jack Montgomery says:

            Your article says you saved 62% of £3274, buy buying points. By extension If you used 213k VS you saved all £3274, which means each VS point would save you 1.5p. So 1.5p per VS point and zero cash, or £1250 plus hope you get 0.6p for some redemption you might or might not want to take in future on VS.

          • Rob says:

            You can’t claim to have got 1.5p of value from a Virgin Point if you can buy the equivalent Hilton points for 0.6p. This way does madness lay ….

  • Chris Heyes says:

    Rob Good article I’ll be in the same boat as you for my Dubrovnik trip 2022
    Hilton Imperial.
    Bit more compilated as I already have almost 500k points (will prob have 500k by then)
    Daughter wants to come so will need 2 rooms 5 or 10 nights
    It has to be Aug (school hols) so will be peak period not good, we never ever travel peak period flights or Hotels (exception this Aug rearranged US trip)
    Could you please give some sort of guidance for our circumstance
    based on 5 nights (i presume i just double it for 10 nights)
    I’m sure you easily did your calculations but I’m finding it difficult, (thick northerners lol)

    • Anna says:

      What’s award availability generally like at the hotel? Remember as well that family rooms are often classed as premium redemptions so don’t qualify for the 5 nights for 4 points rate. It can be cheaper in terms of points to book 2 standard rooms instead of a family room or suite (I think you said your daughter was bringing kids with her?)
      If you never travel peak period, you’re in for a shock!

      • Chris Heyes says:

        Anna No idea what award availability is like at Imperial Dubrovnik yep Daughter plus 13 & 8 year old boys (2022) Plus me Partner & her Brother.
        I’m in for a shock regardless of peak period (kids Gr love em but not on holiday, will need a holiday after the holiday lol)
        Hmmm didn’t realise might not qualify 5 nights for 4 rate
        hopefully your wrong will defiantly need each room to sleep 3
        We have always been upgraded to a suite (without fail) but looks like that might not happen either due to peak period
        I really want to use my points for the booking (if i use points Daughter doesn’t pay so she hoping same)

    • Matthew says:

      Hilton often sell you 2nd room at 50% cash rate if for kids.

      • Chris Heyes says:

        Mathew thanks for info, but second room for Daughter & 2 kids
        First room for me partner & her brother
        500k of Hilton points to use up as well
        I guess i’ll have to see what Hilton will allow me they have always been excellent with off peak booking when i get in touch with Hotel but worried this time with it being Aug

        • Yolo says:

          Unpopular opinion: when your kids grow up and have their own kids, they should pay for their holidays themselves…

        • Anna says:

          I just had a quick look (it looks a nice hotel!) and for August this year the standard redemption is 70k points for a double, king or twin room. The hotel may well put a rollaway bed in a twin room so 3 of them can share although that doesn’t sound very relaxing for your daughter! You might also be able to pay a supplement for a larger room if you can’t get a free upgrade. If points prices are the same for next year you’d be looking at 280k points per room for every 5 nights you stay.
          Another thought – if you and your wife are both HH gold or above, it would make sense to book one room in each name then you’ll be entitled to 2 lots of free breakfast – the hotel might be awkward about offering this to your daughter if she hasn’t got HH status.

          • Anna says:

            It says that the standard rooms sleep 3 so you shouldn’t have an issue with occupancy, but they might charge for an extra bed – if you’re not used to travelling with kids this is also often a rip off!

          • Chris Heyes says:

            Anna Thanks a bunch very useful info, just me gold unfortunatly although will ask
            not sure about rollaway bed, might get Amex Platinum again before travel date
            only cancelled it last year though, I’m Premium BA, Partner Amex Gold same her Brother.
            Anyhow thanks maybe a phone call direct to Hotel later this year soon as flights are secured I really want my Suite upgrade, got so used to it now

    • Jack Montgomery says:

      “You can’t claim to have got 1.5p of value from a Virgin Point if you can buy the equivalent Hilton points for 0.6p. This way does madness lay ….”

      I’m working on your own wording that you ‘saved’ 62% of £3274. Using VS you’d have saved 100% with zero cash outlay.

  • KBuffett says:

    Does the recent strength of GBP make purchasing these points a little cheaper?

    • marcw says:

      Yes. It also “devalues” your points though.

    • Rob says:

      Yes, but it also makes hotel rooms outside the UK cheaper too so the only gain would be if used for UK redemptions.

  • Froggitt says:

    Rob – why not offer a paid “concierge” service for people without this level of knowledge?

    • Benilyn says:

      Hard to guarantee availability for reward bookings makes it a difficult task

    • Tyler Durden says:

      HFP pays rob, HFP needs articles to keep people clicking. Besides most people who use points would be unwilling to pay somebody for something they could find for free elsewhere IMHO. There are some travelblog sites that are offering enhanced/early access to information via a subscription, that might work.

    • Rob says:

      Bad return on my time, if I’m totally honest – and it’s time we don’t have, especially at present with Sinead and Anika off with their babies.

      If you are starting a business, you should try to do something where you are not paid by the hour of time you put in. You are creating a cap to your income. If I can think of something today that increases HfP revenue by £1 per day, then it probably increases the value of the business by £5,000. This is a better use of our resources than doing £50 per hour consultancy.

      • Genghis says:

        There’s a lot of material in the blogosphere on “$10,000 / hour” tasks.

        To take some simple examples, cutting supermarket coupons may be a £10 / hour task but spending time sorting out your investments and pensions may be a £10,000 / hour task. Some good food for thought for everyone.

        • Sam says:

          +1 a good reminder, thanks Genghis

        • Zoe says:

          I’ve never been on a great hourly rate but a few years back with 2 teenagers the 40 minutes I’d spend talking to Admiral (for our multi car policy renewal) would usually save me about £350. Made even sweeter one year when Amex had a cash back with them.

          • Alex W says:

            My Mum will spend literally hours on the phone to fight for a refund of £1.38 when she accidentally rang a premium phone number. Hope I can do more useful things with my time when I am retired!

      • Mr(s) Entitled says:

        That is one hell of a multiplier, and on revenue not profit. Oh the giddy world of tech.

        Give me a shout when you come to sell and we HfP readers will all book a load of ads at £1 a day for the next year in return for 20% of the uplift. Buyer beware.

        • Rob says:

          Not really. Those numbers would only represent 13.7x profits. MoneySuperMarket trades at 18x EBITDA.

      • Backpacker says:

        Hi Rob, Always enjoy your side comments/observations on running a business and a website like this. Keep it up!

  • Tyler Durden says:

    Ive used points to stay in hotels a lot of the past few years, and I will say that most of the time there is no way i would have paid the sticker price at a lot of the hotels.

    I think the points game sometimes blinkers you into thinking you are getting a great deal, but often you miss opportunities to stay somewhere else for the same price you would have paid for those points.

    Put simply it often feels that the price you paid for those points is probably what you would have been happy to pay in the first place. There are of course exceptions/circumstances where points really do make sense.

    • Rob says:

      Good luck finding a luxury beach resort in Dubai for Christmas Day for that sort of money 🙂

      You are young Tyler (I guess). As you get older your priorities will change. My kids are growing up – my oldest will have left home and be at university in 5 years, we don’t have many family holidays left. I am now in an age group where dropping dead of cancer within 12 months is no longer statistically highly unlikely. If we go away I’m not staying in some lesser quality property unnecessarily.

      You also don’t have piles of spare money. I do, because I’m old. The points game benefits richer people more than poor people, because we save real cash. £6,500 for 5 nights at the Waldorf would have been unfortunate but we would have paid it if necessary.

      • ChrisW says:

        Is the worst thing about having kids having to travel in school holidays?

        • Rob says:

          No, it’s fishing poo out of the bath.

          • BP says:

            No it’s standing in their poo pre-bath when you let them dance about with their nappy off and don’t noticed they have pooed on the carpet. Had to buy a carpet cleaner as it’s marked the carpet too!

          • Chrisasaurus says:

            …when you’re in the bath with them at the time…

          • The Savage Squirrel says:

            “Is the worst thing about having kids having to travel in school holidays?”
            “No, it’s fishing poo out of the bath.”

            Reading late – I’ve just sprayed beer on my monitor 😀 😀

        • Anna says:

          It’s not great, but it makes getting award seats for expensive destinations extra thrilling! 5 years ago I wouldn’t have dreamed we’d be flying Club to the Caribbean in school holidays.

        • Navara says:

          Then Grandkids it all starts also costs more when the kids come too.

      • Chris Heyes says:

        Rob Wow i think you actually like “Family Holidays” when i turned 16 (many moons ago)
        I never went on another family holiday, with my parents, i wanted my independence
        I left school at 15, bought my first house at 18, my family holidays with my kids was until they was 16 & 14, son bought his first house at 18 as well, daughter bit older (maybe19)
        I must admit never liked family hols, stuck planning what others want to do
        I have to admit to taking grand kids on hols out of school off peak dates but not more than once a year, never been a battle with school
        poo out the bath uhh
        My son at 16 came home from a party was sick at the bottom of the stairs, i left it overnight woke him up at 6.30 in the morning & made him clean it up himself (he never did it again)

    • marcw says:

      Last paragraph: exactly my thoughts.
      I’ll never say, oh! I’ve saved 2k travelling in Business coz I used points. Reality is, I’d never pay that much in the first place. Same for hotels.

      • Tracey says:

        We used to say that we would never pay “normal” prices for business. That works until you become too acclimatised to only travelling long haul business and will no longer think of long haul economy as acceptable.

        • Chris Heyes says:

          Tracey, long haul or short haul economy is “out” for us, said before only travelled economy the once, “it wont happen again” hardly any more Avios for Business in short haul so why not, surcharge not that more either.
          Only ever travelled on BA from UK & always only Avios & tax, in 30/40 odd years “never bought a ticket for cash,” that’s the game i play. used to have over 2mil Avios, could get them for next to nothing them days, they was called Air-Miles back then

        • Tarmohamed says:

          I agree with Tracey. We flew out (for the first time) in Business with Emirates. Our return was economy. Boris comes up with Red List and our flight gets cancelled. I get a refund for the return flights in full. I go over to Qatar airways and boon the flights, similar timings, but in Business. So yes I’ve always said I’d “never” pay cash for business, but that’s not true anymore. I’d pay again.

          • Louie says:

            I always said I’d never pay for business as long as I still had a mortgage. Only broken that rule once (Qatar ARN to Oz at a ridiculous price); all other business class flights have been on points. Starting to run a bit short on points now, though have several long haul flights booked which are likely to be cancelled.

      • marcw says:

        It depends what your goal or aim is. I use point to travel more or travel better for the same cash. Plus, the use of points provide a degree of flexibility which I truly appreciate – but wouldn’t pay cash for it.

    • BuildBackBetter says:

      “Put simply it often feels that the price you paid for those points is probably what you would have been happy to pay in the first place.”
      Would you have got Waldorf Astoria rooms for that price otherwise? Thats the question.
      Points game is about access to aspirational experiences. Value on top is icing on the cake.
      >1p value for avios redemption is good. But seeing the smile on parents when you redeem a business class ticket? you cant put a value on that!

      • Tyler Durden says:

        I dont disagree that rob would have researched his xmas trip, and for this particular trip it probably was the best value/way to book – but generally points can sucker people into thinking they are getting extraordinary value, when in fact the cash price for the property is something most of us wouldn’t pay. I don’t think I would ever pay my hard earned cash for a WA property, a WA only becomes an option when paying on points.

        My most recent example of being “blinkered” was staying as a family of 3 at the Hilton Conrad Maldives, 8 nights all on points, often blogged as one of the “best value” Hilton redemptions.

        However once you consider the amount of £££ worth of points (even @50% sale) for 8 nights, plus the crazy prices for seaplane/food beverage etc i honestly believe there are far better 5star options in the Maldives , but i was sucked into achieving the “holy grail” of a points booking @ Conrad Maldives, hence my comment about being “blinkered” into only looking at places where i can earn/redeem points.

        I fully agree (at least in my case) that points when used for aspirational experiences is the way to go, on our way back from the same Maldives trip we also used points to Fly Qatar Qsuite, that IMHO is an exceptional use of points, and truly aspirational, hilton conrad maldives, not so much. Just dont be blinkered by hilton sticker value vs real value vs points value.. thats all i think i was trying to say.

  • NigelthePensioner says:

    The real issue is the room category you get for the banner headline points redemption, no matter which hotel chain or where that hotel is situated. That is why hotel point redemptions dont work for me. Status however is worthwhile having if you are in a programme or at a level that gives you a room upgrade, complimentary breakfast for two and Club Lounge access. Never mind the late check out – a polite request in advance more often than not gets you a few extra hours free.

    • Rob says:

      I agree, and that is one reason why I often don’t use points. This was different because we weren’t planning to be in the room much and the huge cash cost of that bigger room (ie £250 per night via points for a standard room or £1,000+ per night for a slightly bigger deluxe room or junior suite) made no sense.

    • Genghis says:

      Rooms can be negotiated on a case by case basis, but it is not exactly easy.

      I booked basic rooms on points for 10 nights in South Africa for Feb 22 and have negotiated with the hotels to pay cash to upgrade to rooms big enough for us. On all bases, the numbers work: points + cash vs cash at the hotel specifically and what we would otherwise be happy to pay.

      • Yorkieflyer says:

        And that’s how we got value at Conrad Maldives a few years ago, a cash upgrade on a 5 for 4 points booking with Gold benefits for an over water villa on the little island was a great experience even factoring in the pricy booze and seaplane

        • Yorkieflyer says:

          An attempt by the waiter to whip away a bottle of Oz wine when quarter full as we “wouldn’t want the sediment” tested my reflex’s 😀

        • Tyler Durden says:

          IMHO Conrad Maldives totally over rated – worn out villas, it seems they are resting on their laurels, plus you really need to budget £500+per person, per day or you will have to skip meals/events etc – its really setup for rich Russians (i say Russian because the alternative language menus are in Russian) who want to throw hundreds/thousands of dollars around at dinner. Perhaps thats just standard for the Maldives (only been once)

          • LST says:

            In my opinion you get a better experience in The Maldives if you don’t stay on a “major chain” island. Booking via a Maldives specialist gets you a really good deal and help from someone really knowledgable and will likely save you 1000s.

    • Russ says:

      I also agree. I need a bath in the room and a bed which is clearly not two singles pushed together. A good executive lounge which is constantly refreshed is always welcome as is a free mini bar in the room. I feel service can be better when paying in cash rather than points.

      • TGLoyalty says:

        How can the service possibly be better if you use cash rather than points once you’ve got past the checkin process?

        Do you have paid with points tattooed across your forehead?

        • Benilyn says:

          @TGLoyalty – lmao

        • Russ says:

          It’s been my observation that cash punters are better treated than point punters. Not sure if a tattoo helps….

          • TGLoyalty says:

            I honestly haven’t noticed that. I’ve had good and bad points and cash stays and never marked out as being treated differently because it was points not cash.

            In fact I once stayed on points and spent nearly £1k in incidentals over 3 days then returned on cash and the service was crap because the property had gone downhill.

            I’m with LL though I like to use the cash saved to spend in the spa or bar etc

        • Lady London says:

          Maybe I’m overcompensating but on a points booking I make sure to give decent tips and also try to purchase the odd extra early in the stay. Harder as a single traveller these days but imagine having some drinks in the bar as a couple early on might send message not just a cheapskate.

          • Rob says:

            If the hotel is over 95% full then it is getting the full rate from the programme anyway. If it is less than the room would have been empty regardless, the hotel is paid a nominal sum for cleaning etc and anything you spend on property is an extra bonus for them.

          • TGLoyalty says:

            Fingers crossed you get to take your friend to the Langley this summer 🤞🏽

    • Benilyn says:

      Agree, but random hotels the base room redemption is amazing, e.g. WA Maldives base redemption is not bad…

      • Tyler Durden says:

        100% agree on WA Maldives… base room looks amazing..

        • Marcelo says:

          Base room on WA Maldives is 799,000 points per night, right?

          • Ikaz says:

            Standard rooms as the WA Maldives are 120,000 points per night, but they are very rare and sell out fast. Currently have rooms available for random nights throughout the calendar

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