Jersey bans unvaccinated holidaymakers from England

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• Will says:

  17 Jun17 June 18:52

  This is the way forward. No vaccine = no travel. Eg get a vaccine 💉

  • Paul Pogba says:

    17 Jun17 June 19:09

    Its the way it should have always been, we’d have been alot less likely to have introduced new variants into the country.

    • Dayle says:

      17 Jun17 June 21:09

      This is a very slippery slope to go down…

      Who really cares if those who are vulnerable are now vaccinated anyway? Those who could actually die from Covid-19 are now extremely unlikely to die…

      The matter of variants is non existent because its the same virus – scaremongering at it’s finest!!

      • George1976 says:

        17 Jun17 June 22:30

        Nonsense. The South African variant is much more resistant to vaccines. Do some research before posting garbage on the internet

        • DAYLE says:

          17 Jun17 June 23:48

          Don’t worry.. vaccines are very effective against the B1.351 strain, don’t get caught up in believing all the panic news 🙂

          https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech-confirm-high-efficacy-and-no-serious

      • TGLoyalty says:

        17 Jun17 June 22:31

        People love a sound bite. Reality is the vaccine is very effective against stopping severe disease and death against all known variants to date.

        • Babyg says:

          18 Jun18 June 00:21

          im jabbed, but i dont think it stops me catching and spreading right?

        • Yuff says:

          18 Jun18 June 05:57

          Not 100% but it does stop you getting ill, reduces transmission and protects everyone not just yourself.
          Personally I think when everyone has been ordered a jab restriction fir unvaccinated people should increase.
          Why should vaccinated people pay the price of restrictions because unvaccinated people choose to put not only themselves but others who may have medical issues.

  • J says:

    19 Jun19 June 18:58

    A desire for No vaccine/No travel could be unwittingly leave a lot of the older UK population short changed. The US has not approved the AZ vaccine, so if they imposed the rule, those that had only had the AZ vaccine would likely not be admitted. This is already happening for some Broadway shows, where only those with the Pfizer, Moderna or J&J jabs are permitted.

• A_Jersey says:

  17 Jun17 June 19:04

  My honest advice as a Jersey resident, regardless of what the Government here says at any moment in time and regardless of your vaccinations status, is not to try and come here until August. There is a power struggle between some ministers who dearly want a sensible travel policy and some other politicians, aided by the chief medical officer (essentially a zero-Covid maniac), who don’t. They appear to make announcements almost independently of one another to try and create a fait accompli, but both sides play the same game and we end up with a travel policy that changes ever 48 hours. There is no certainty. Those of us who live here can at least sneak into the short windows of opportunity to travel back to the UK, but in terms of travelling from the UK to Jersey for a holiday I would avoid making any plans where you might lose money.

  • C says:

    17 Jun17 June 22:15

    The approach sounds just like the UK.

    • tony says:

      17 Jun17 June 22:28

      just what I was going to say. Given how many of the No. 10 brigade claim to have worked as journalists or PRs, their inability to message coherently is astonishing…

  • Track says:

    18 Jun18 June 20:04

    I thought Jersey move is to be aligned with France — to secure the flow of goods and essential travel for residents.

    Gosh, politics makes things seriously wrong.

• Paul says:

  17 Jun17 June 23:27

  It doesn’t make a lot of difference. Many European nations have opened up to vaccinated travellers and dropped testing but the U.K. is specifically excluded!
  Plague Island is facing a further wave of infection and because Johnson did not close the border (he so desperately wanted to control), the world is now closed to us. If he lifted travel restrictions today we still could not travel as no one will let us in!

  • David says:

    18 Jun18 June 00:15

    This 👌

    • Tim says:

      18 Jun18 June 06:04

      Bollocks. You’re mixing up ‘Brexit’ logic whereby the assumption is pro inward looking Little Englanders when the reality is pro international cooperation , with the success rate of domestic attempts to alleviate Covid, of which most countries have mixed (and when we look back in time) will likely have similar results. If it was football, the top two players would be Germany and the UK, and in the first half last summer, Germany won. The UK got the upper hand with vaccines early 2021. However, at the moment, it’s a draw. Bottom line: if a more serious pandemic hits the world in the future, from the experience of the past year or so, Germany and the U.K are the two places you’d hedge your bets. And on the experience of airlines (as this is supposed to be a travel blog) I’d hedge my bets with the U.K. Simply because Lufthansa is great when everything goes according to plan. But BA handles things better when things don’t go according to plan. And if anyone wants to bring Air France into the discussion then I rest my case 🙂

      • numpty says:

        18 Jun18 June 08:19

        dont let facts get in the way of a good morning rant….’To Victory’

      • Callum says:

        18 Jun18 June 10:16

        What a bizarre claim. The UK had one of the highest infection and death rates on the planet because the government and general population refused to fully commit to stopping it. They both still refuse.

        I’m not going to argue that they should have committed any more than they did (money/freedom vs health/life is very subjective), but I certainly wouldn’t put bets on the UK being in the “top two” globally for dealing with another pandemic…

• Simon says:

  18 Jun18 June 07:37

  Depressing to see the US added to the EU white list but totally understandably not the UK. When I look at the latest data on ourworldindata we have more cases per 1,000,000 in the last 7 days than any other European country I could see, all because one man wanted a photo opportunity in India.

  • Callum says:

    18 Jun18 June 10:19

    People keep claiming this, but it absolutely would have arrived in the UK regardless of an Indian flight ban. The only way to have stopped it would have been sealing the border.

  • Andrew says:

    18 Jun18 June 11:10

    Our positivity rates (ie proportion of tests which come back positive) is almost the lowest in the whole of Europe. The problem is that we’re performing vastly more tests. As an example we’re performing 10x as many tests daily than Germany! Unsurprisingly when you look for something you find it. Germany is still reporting far more deaths than us.

    The problem is that in order to justify continued domestic restrictions our government keeps talking up how dire the situation is. Other countries then think ‘well if it’s that bad in the UK we’d better not let them come here’. People hear that the situation’s getting worse so more go and get tested and then we get more positives, both real and false. When you’re carrying out 1M+ tests a day even a minicule false positive rate results in significant numbers. Paying too much attention to cases (now that vaccinations have broken the link with serious illness and death) results in a vicious cycle.

    • Alastair says:

      18 Jun18 June 12:46

      The UK is one of, if not the, only country to genetically sequence 100% of positive tests (mandated by law) – so it’s effectively guaranteed that it will have the most of any variant, as fewer places are properly looking for them.

      This move from the EU re UK smells political – it’s absolutely guaranteed that the Delta variant spreads and simply becomes ‘the’ variant in time. This is more of a show of the fabled ‘European unity’ that had become battered due to the vaccination crisis across the bloc.

      • CarpalTravel says:

        18 Jun18 June 13:08

        Good point, the reliability and accuracy of the reporting is often overlooked. Apparently China only had 25 cars yesterday. Anyone buying that?? Nope, thought not.

        • CarpalTravel says:

          18 Jun18 June 13:09

          Cases, not cars. Pretty sure they have more than 25 of those too.

          My kingdom, for an edit button….

      • Andrew says:

        18 Jun18 June 13:09

        Completely agree. The same happened with the ‘Kent’ variant. Quite possibly the variant didn’t originate in the UK, it’s just that we were one of the only countries looking for it but that didn’t stop France shutting its borders. A few weeks on it’s found that the same variant has already made it around the world and borders are quietly reopened. The delta variant’s been found in Australia so open borders or not it was inevitable it would make it to the UK.

      • numpty says:

        18 Jun18 June 13:38

        Its law? you got a link to that S.I.? Reason i ask is that for the week to 17 May 2021 the UK Genomics consortium only did 61.6% sequences (of the 10,504 positive tests that week) and the consortium discusses how it’s success/capability is based on historic reasons relating to public health.

        • Alastair says:

          18 Jun18 June 19:00

          My apologies I misread – it is required by law only for (positive) private traveler arrival tests, as per (in my understanding at least, it’s perhaps not clear) https://www.gov.uk/guidance/testing-on-day-2-and-day-8-for-international-arrivals

          It does however still stand that the UK is a strong leader in genetic sequencing, there are several articles about this in reputable news sources. I’d really like to know what the stats are, particularly in EU nations.

    • numpty says:

      18 Jun18 June 13:11

      unfortunately the UK gov doesn’t seem to report %positive i.e. no. of positive cases v tests undertaken – Scottish gov does (4.6% positivity rate yesterday, WHO advises it needs to be kept below 5% for virus to be ‘under control’). Sounds as if it would be advantageous to do so, and yet they dont for some reason. Last year it was found out they double counted tests – a saliva and nasal swab from one person counted as two tests undertaken, but would count as one positive test.

      Margin of error goes both ways; false negative and false positive.

    • Rob says:

      18 Jun18 June 13:39

      Most people don’t understand how bad false positives are. Lateral flow have a 1 in 1000 false positive apparently. A few weeks ago 1 in 5000 were infected. At that point, 84% of positive results were wrong.

      • numpty says:

        18 Jun18 June 13:43

        Lateral flow tests have a high false positive rate, which is why Operation Moonshot was a terrible idea. Taking 2 or 3 lateral flow tests per week and you will get a false positive per person at least once per year! A positive lateral flow test needs to be followed up with a PCR test (but good luck finding a consistent answer on its margin of error).

• Elnur says:

  18 Jun18 June 14:04

  Does the test on arrival really takes just 6-12h or it may take more? And is this 6-12h business/day hours or round the clock? What if I arrive at 7pm in the evening on Friday – is it safe to assume that I can go to the hotel after the test at the airport – stay in my room that evening and be sure that in the worst case by Saturday morning the result will be known?

  • DW says:

    18 Jun18 June 14:53

    The lab in Jersey operates 24/7, 7 days per week. It is actually that time.

    • Elnur says:

      18 Jun18 June 18:20

      Thank you

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