New W Hotel to open on Greece’s Costa Navarino this year

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• TimM says:

  19 Jan19 January 06:14

  ‘Costa Navarino’ is not a geographic place but the name of the first luxury hotel built near the town of Pylos and the bay of Navarino (where the entire Ottoman fleet were destroyed and Greek independence became a reality). It is thanks to the hotel that BA fly to Kalamata. While the low cost airlines and Thomas Cook before them largely service the resorts of Kardamyli and Stoupa on the Mani peninsular, BA was at first chartered to service ‘Costa Navarino’ for a couple of years before operating a scheduled service.

  Messinia is the ‘least invaded’ part of Europe, attributed to the mountainous landscape, harsh climate and, before the eventual German occupation, there were no roads or bridges suitable for anything more than a donkey.

  Good luck to ‘W’ but the real treasures for a visitor are in the deepest Mani – after millennia, still relatively cut-off.

  • Rhys says:

    19 Jan19 January 09:42

    Not geographic yet but this development is trying its hardest to make it so….

• Mike says:

  19 Jan19 January 06:34

  On the Virgin Atlantic competition, back of an envelope calc.

  Assume the average booking is 2 pax (I don’t know if less or more).

  2020 pax – 1.14m
  2019 pax – 5.6m

  So bookings over an average 3 day period Virgin website says 18-20th for booking…
  Year – (booking p.a./days in year/pax per booking) = booking per day, then x days

  2020 (1.14m/365/2)*3= 4,684
  2019 (5.6/365/2)*3= 23,013

  So with 300 winning bookings

  On 2020 bookings 4684/300 ~ 1 in 16
  On 2019 bookings 23,013/300 ~ 1 in 77

  Split the difference, muh, 1 in 50 say. Not bad odds. If the promotion pushes the needle then may be 1 in 100.

  Anyone see a flaw in my order of magnitude estimate?

  • Stewart says:

    19 Jan19 January 07:27

    You’ve used total passenger numbers – this comp is only for direct bookings, which I’m guessing is quite a small subset. Even if as many as 50% of bookings are direct (I’d expect it to be quite a lot less) then the odds are rather better than you calculate….

    • G says:

      19 Jan19 January 08:50

      No they’ve divided the total number of pax by 2 to assume the total number of bookings

  • planeconcorde says:

    19 Jan19 January 07:50

    Your calculation assumes everybody who has booked is based in the UK. You need to factor out people booking in another country to travel to the UK. Good luck in finding the numbers work that out. Plus not everybody books direct with the airline. Let’s just say the odds would be better than you have calculated.

    • Mike says:

      19 Jan19 January 09:26

      As I said an order of magnitude calc, based on the suggestions…

      Supposedly approximately 40-60% of flights are booked directly across the industry. I don’t know how accurate that is. If we take it as 50/50 then you can double the odds.

      UK pax to US in a normal year is over 4m and US pax to UK is over 4m, there’d also be other foreigners so UK pax would be less than 50% so at least another doubling or tripling.

      So overall not bad odds.

  • Babyg says:

    19 Jan19 January 09:12

    i miss the old daily chats (non forum) for weird stuff like this..

    • John says:

      19 Jan19 January 09:48

      This is related to the article so doesn’t belong in a chat section

• Matt says:

  19 Jan19 January 08:40

  Are reward booking likely to be excluded? They don’t appear explicitly as an exclusion in the T&Cs

• nick says:

  19 Jan19 January 08:56

  The way I read it reward flights dont seem to be excluded? In term 2 below it says travel voucher and open tickets are….but not reward tickets?

  2. VAA flight booking must be fully paid and ticketed to be entered in this draw. Open Tickets/Travel Voucher bookings are excluded from this promotion

• Andrew. says:

  19 Jan19 January 09:19

  Been through the T&C’s and can’t work out if a flight and hotel booking is excluded.

• Richie says:

  19 Jan19 January 10:17

  It seems this W hotel in Greece may have some good sunset cocktail hour instagram photo opportunities.

• Ruth4325 says:

  19 Jan19 January 15:01

  Quick question on 241 Amex vouchers and how long it takes to receive the voucher once spend is met on BAPP. I triggered my voucher spend on Monday this week but I am still waiting for the voucher in my account. I’m sure in the past the voucher has been in my BA account within 24 hours. Can anyone advise. I’m of course getting impatient as I am trying to compare TYO availability in CW between and old and new vouchers!

• Froggee says:

  19 Jan19 January 21:19

  It does seem to vary. I asked before Christmas and got mixed messages as was trying to trigger perfectly for 30th December. As it was I got lucky with Amazon spend on 28th December hitting Amex and triggering voucher on the 29th and it posting to BA on the 30th thereby giving me validity to 30 June 2024.

  But e.g. this flyertalk post shows it can be random:

  https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/british-airways-executive-club/1985704-amex-2-1-time-trigger-voucher-once-spend-reached.html

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