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Review: I try out Finnair’s revolutionary new ‘no recline’ Business Class seat

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This is our review of Finnair’s new ‘no recline’ Business Class seat.

A month ago, Finnair announced a brand new – and different – Business Class seat which will roll out on its entire long haul fleet by the end of 2023.

This came as a big surprise to the industry which had only been expecting to see the launch of Premium Economy.

Last Friday I was invited to try out the new seat, which had been specifically rostered on the Heathrow to Helsinki route for the occasion. David Kondo, Finnair’s design head, was with us.

Finnair new business class seat

Rhys wrote an in-depth piece on the new Finnair seat here. He knows far more about seat design than I do, and I don’t intend to repeat his thoughts here, so I recommend you read that piece alongside this one. His article has the smart PR photographs in it whilst this one has rough and ready real life images. The only PR picture here is the one above.

To summarise the seat:

  • it’s very good – ignore the fact it doesn’t recline, ignore the lack of a door. It’s a practical, cosy, private seat which is well ahead of the current one (which itself is well ahead of BA Club World).
  • I think that it may prove more popular with women than men, to the extent that it works best in the seating positions that women are more likely than men to adopt for anatomical reasons

This is what you see as you walk down the cabin. It looks a bit like the British Airways business class ‘cradle seat’, which readers over 50 may recognise:

Finnair new business class seat

It’s a 1-2-1 layout. Each row is identical – you don’t have any sort of staggered layout as you get with SWISS, Finnair (old seat), Aer Lingus etc.

Let’s take a closer look at the seat:

Finnair new business class seat

The first thing to note is how wide it is. Here is a picture of the seat with me in it:

Finnair new business class seat

There is a huge amount of space here. You are in no way coccooned by the seat, which is good to the extent that you can move around (and very good if you are wider than average).

The seat padding is soft, but not as soft as I expected. It’s not sofa-style padding – not unsurprising for an aircraft seat, of course, but this seat is pitched as being more of a sofa-style experience than usual.

Here is a view looking forward:

Finnair new business class seat

You have, as you’d expect, a high quality display screen. If you look under the TV you can just about see a foot rest which flips up and locks into place. There is a separate rest under the seat. When both are extended, the entire area you see below is one flat space:

Finnair new business class seat

The reason the seat doesn’t recline is that it doesn’t need to. You are meant to lie down on this flat area. I am 6 foot 2 and as you can see here, my toes were nowhere near the end of the foot hole when I was in a sleeping position:

Finnair new business class seat

As this was a 3 hour flight, we were not given pillows, duvets or blankets. It was impossible to get a proper impression of how the seat would work for sleeping, but I was convinced I would get a decent night on it. We also didn’t get proper headphones, just cheap earbuds, so I can’t comment on the sound quality available on a long-haul flight.

Whilst the seat has no door, you get a lot of privacy. Putting on a door means narrowing the seat by a few centimetres, and this is a trade off that Finnair was not willing to make. This was the view from my seat:

Finnair new business class seat

You can’t, realistically, say that you are lacking privacy here. The seats are far higher than British Airways business class seats.

If you are in the centre pair there is a divider between the two seats which can be placed up or down as you can see below. This clearly isn’t as private as being in a window seat, however.

Finnair new business class seat

Other seat features

Let’s look at some of the other features. The tray table is excellent. It swings out and then, if you wish, folds out to double in size. You can push it back easily if you need to get out of your seat during the meal service.

Finnair new business class seat

If you look to the far left of the picture above, you will see a tiny cross. This is a wireless phone charging pad. At last!

This is how the table looks when unfolded. The meal below – pasta and prawns – is Finnair’s typical short-haul food and is not typical of how a long-haul meal would be presented.

Finnair new business class seat

The storage unit comes with a bottle of water in its own special compartment. The thin rectangular slot is designed to store a laptop safely.

Finnair new business class seat

There is also a storage unit built into the seat, under the reading light. As well as storing the TV remove control, there is a USB C charging socket (a world first apparently) as well as enough space for spectacles, phones etc:

Finnair new business class seat

Our aircraft had wi-fi. As this was an older A330, I assume that the entire long-haul fleet must have it. Business Class passengers get 1 hour of free wi-fi and you can pay for additional time.

My only criticism is that the process for connecting is not clear. I initially thought it was turned off because, whilst I could see the network on my phone, it wouldn’t connect. What I didn’t know until I went to the wi-fi page on my IFE screen is that you need to scan a QR code or type in a specific URL to activate it. It is not automatic, and your device will not automatically divert to the registration page.

Once I was connected, it worked well. That said, with only seven passengers using it concurrently at the time I was on (you are told the number when connecting) it was not typical of a long-haul flight.

Does the lack of seat recline matter?

As you can see from the pictures, the seat back is not fully upright. There is a gentle slope which should be fine for sitting and eating. The issue is whether you extend the seat base and essentially curl up on it, or put your feet on the floor. I tried both and, if I’d had a blanket, would probably have gone for a curled position whilst watching TV.

What is interesting about the seat is that there is almost nothing mechanical about it. The only automated thing is the flap under your seat. This should keep maintenance costs down and presumably makes the seat lighter.


A three hour day flight to Helsinki isn’t, clearly, the same as a 12-hour overnight flight from Asia. Let”s start with that caveat. I also didn’t get to experience the food or service you would get on a long-haul flight, although my short-haul crews were excellent.

However, I can tell you with certainty that this is a comfortable, well designed, surprisingly large, surprisingly wide and surprisingly private Business Class seat.

It is well ahead of the current Finnair Business Class seat, which I was always positive about. It’s ironic that Finnair is ripping out seats which are only 5 years old in some cases and which are far better than the seats other airlines are still flying.

I can say for sure that sleeping in the new seat will not be a problem, given the length and width of the seat. I know that it is perfectly fine for sitting and working, because I tried it.

The key issue is whether you can find a comfortable position for sitting whilst reading or watching TV for extended periods. I think it would be fine, although I’ll need to try it to be sure.

Finnair has always offered a good Business Class product for flights to Asia. As regular HfP readers will know, it has also historically offered excellent value for money, especially in sales.

As Finnair is in the oneworld alliance, you earn Avios and British Airways Executive Club tier points. In fact, you earn more tier points than you would earn on British Airways, since the short-haul connection to Helsinki gets you a further 80 tier points in each direction in Business Class.

Finnair also runs a number of weekly flights from Heathrow with long haul aircraft, for cargo reasons. This means that, if you pick and choose your flights, you can fly Business Class to Asia with a flat bed on all four flights.

Finnair also flies from Manchester, Edinburgh and Dublin. If you don’t live near Heathrow then the rationale for flying it to Asia becomes even more compelling, because connecting in Helsinki is no harder than connecting in Heathrow.

Thanks to David Kondo and his team at Finnair for inviting me. If you are heading to Helsinki, I can recommend ‘Shelter’ restaurant on the harbour – website here – which attracts a young and buzzy crowd but also delivers on the food front, and where David’s team took us.

PS. Don’t miss our review of the new Premium Economy seat

If you found this article interesting, click here for our review of Finnair’s new (and first ever) Premium Economy seat which is being added to the same aircraft.

Head for Points made a financial contribution to the Woodland Trust as part of this trip. The Woodland Trust creates and manages forests in the UK in accordance with the Woodland Carbon Code.

Comments (263)

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  • AY flyer says:

    Seriously…The updated article isn’t any better. In fact, it’s beyond bizarre.

    “I think that it may prove more popular with women than men, to the extent that it works best in the seating positions that women are more likely than men to adopt for anatomical reasons”

    What does it even mean? Are you now saying that my bits are in the way of my curling up comfortably in AY’a new J seat? Just apologise that you’ve made an error of judgment in your article and that it was offensive.

    • Rob says:

      Google scientific papers on the difference between how men and women sit. This has been researched to death. Femur length is the key driver, followed by pelvis width.

  • Nav says:

    I wonder when the apology comes Rob?

    • Rob says:

      When you can find a scientific study which shows there is absolutely no difference between how men and women sit and therefore my assumption is incorrect 🙂

      • Reiko says:

        You’re completely missing the point, Rob. The inflammatory thing was the sentiment it was a ‘feminine’ seat. This is at best an ill-advised and slightly superfluous comment and at worse something very much outdated.

        I won’t debate femur length or pelvis width. You are probably correct with or without evidence, however I feel the point could have been made more eloquently, much more sensitively and in a way more in keeping with modern progressive thinking.

        I love the work you do and have never taken umbrage at any of your content, so this was a bit of a surprise.

        __ __ __ __ __ __

        To quote: “I think that it is a very feminine seat, to the extent that it works best in the sort of typical seating positions that women are more likely than men to adopt (you rarely see a man curled up on a sofa, for example)”

        • Rob says:

          We’re not disagreeing, are we? The wording was changed to something which more accurately reflects what I was trying to say.

        • Londonsteve says:

          Deary me, some people do have an extraordinarily thin skin. I honestly don’t know how they cope in today’s pumped up, high octane, brusque world.

  • Ben says:

    Of all the things people get upset about now days. I didnt think this article was going to be it. Its a sunny day, log off and go for a walk.

    • patrick says:

      Hear hear. Imagine having so much free time that you can get upset about this.

    • yorkieflyer says:

      the reaction doesn’t surprise me in the least, we’ve all been, even unwittingly, conditioned to a degree of PC wokery. Watched the first episodes of Peep Show (2003) at the weekend and this was very evident in my own reaction.

  • Mark says:

    I wouldn’t want to try this out. A fixed back seat is not ideal for many, many people.

    The first thing I do on a long haul flight is adjust the seat back to make the angle comfortable to me and I change it often based on what I’m doing, Dozing, watching a film, eating, reading etc and when I sleep I don’t tend to have the seat fully flat either.

    A big no from me.

    • Richard G says:

      Agreed, call me strange but I’d rather be sitting in an office chair with multiple usable angles to sitting on a sofa (at least for more than an hour).

  • Mike says:

    Rob – I can’t believe you backed down and dropped the word “feminine”. You thought it – you typed it and you published it and now you have bowed down to an overly woke tiny tiny minority !

    • Rob says:

      The point I intended to make is still being made, but with a better choice of words that conveys the point more clearly.

  • krys_k says:

    My wife curls up on the sofa. I don’t. Although the sample size of my research is admittedly small.

  • Milaneser says:

    Looking at some of the comments here, as well as on some other articles over the years, I can’t help but feel that many people are actually just driven by jealousy. Some of the comments are really quite bitter and personal, almost as if Rob is somehow a hindrance to (his own!) site, it really beggars belief.

    I think, fundamentally, some people just don’t like the fact that Rob is clearly very successful and can curl up 😉 in Chelsea making money off running a blog. They come to the site to learn from HfP’s superior knowledge on the topic, but almost resent the fact that they do so and therefore try to assert what they see as their own moral superiority at each and every opportunity, no matter how small, to bring Rob down a peg or two. It must be a nice distraction from the realisation that they will likely never have the wherewithal or drive to do something like HfP for themselves!

    • Rob says:

      Reader feedback is important to us and much of what we do, eg the forum and all the changes made after the redesign, is driven by it. We won’t always act on it but we like to hear it. We’re currently working through the suggestions in the 10,000 replies to the reader survey.

      I also learned years ago that it’s a mistake to assume you have superior knowledge on anything to do with aviation, because there is always someone who knows more than you do about every particular topic we cover!

  • BlueThroughCrimp says:

    Not a fan of window seats where the head is so far from the window.
    I’ve flown on the Super Diamond seat, and it’s a pain leaning forward to see out the window all the time.

    • TGLoyalty says:

      Agree with this. Hate it.

    • riku says:

      I like how the crew on the 787 can darken the windows and stop anyone obsessed with staring out the window keeping everyone else awake. Apart from landing I never look out the window.

      • BlueThroughCrimp says:

        Wear the eye mask if you’re that bothered.
        I’ve paid for a window seat, I’ll look out it.
        The scenery is my choice of IFE.

        • meta says:

          I actually ask the crew turn it back on if they do that. Never been an issue.

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