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Qantas confirms non-stop London to Sydney flights from 2025

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Qantas has announced its ‘Project Sunrise’ non-stop flights from Sydney and Melbourne to Europe with a confirmed order for 12 Airbus A350s.

(This article was previously written speculatively but overnight Qantas confirmed the news – fortunately, virtually everything we wrote has been confirmed. The article below has now been updated.)

Qantas has been discussing ‘Project Sunrise’ since 2017, challenging Airbus and Boeing to propose a solution that would allow such flights. If the pandemic had not intervened then the aircraft would be under construction by now, and in service next year.

Lots of new jets on order for Qantas

Qantas announced the purchase of 12 Airbus A350-1000ULR aircraft today. ULR stands for ‘ultra long range’. These will be built with an additional fuel tank which will allow them to fly fully loaded from Sydney to London.

In addition, Qantas has also placed a large order for single aisle aircraft to renew its domestic and short haul fleet. It has ordered 20 A321XLRs and 20 A220 aircraft to gradually replace the 737 and 717s currently in its fleet, with options to purchase up to 94 more over the coming decade. The first of these will arrive in late 2023.

It is interesting that Qantas has chosen the A321XLR version, which offers the largest range of any narrow body aircraft at up to 4,700nm and certainly more than enough for domestic routes. That would be enough for it to fly from Sydney to Hong Kong, Brisbane to Tokyo or Sydney to Bangkok.

It may be that Qantas has opted for a single aircraft that can do both short and longer routes, in order to increase compatibility across its network. The excellent A220 aircraft can then pick up some of the smaller and thinner domestic routes.

Qantas has been trialling direct flights to Australia since 2018 when it launched its non-stop London to Perth service. This uses a standard Boeing 787-9 aircraft and takes 17 hours to cover the 14,498 km distance. London to Sydney or Melbourne is beyond the scope of existing aircraft.

First flights will operate to New York and London, followed by Paris and Frankfurt. Rio de Janeiro and Cape Town could also welcome the jets according to initial plans.

Qantas A350-1000 ULR

Qantas’ new A350-1000ULR

The A350-1000ULR aircraft will have the ability to fly for 21 hours. This is enough for the routes under consideration, even after building in flexibility to deal with bad weather diversions and other potential issues en route.

The aircraft will carry 238 passengers in a four class configuration, including First Class, with internal changes to give passengers more chance to walk around during the flight. Over 40% of capacity (and a much higher percentage of floor space) will be dedicated to premium passengers.

Entirely new seating will be developed, and Qantas has already pulled back the curtain on a very impressive First class suite:

Qantas A350 First

and

Qantas A350 First 2

As you can see, each First class seat takes up the wall width – there is no tessellation of other passengers like you would find in most business class cabins. Instead, Qantas has created a suite with a closing door that features both a permanent bed and seat, similar to Singapore’s impressive A380 First class. Here is a full video of the new Qantas first class cabin:

Storage appears to be plentiful and the suite features a 32″ in-flight entertainment screen.

The A350-1000ULR solution is believed to be attractive because, whilst the aircraft can handle ultra-long flights, they are equally suitable for shorter intercontinental trips. They will also allow Qantas to bypass international hubs such as Singapore and fly direct – and will eventually replace the hub-to-hub A380 operations.

None of this will come tomorrow, of course. These ultra long-haul flights are due to start in 2025, although whether they start on time is another matter. Fortunately, the A350-1000ULR is just a modified A350 so it is unlikely to be delayed as long as Boeing’s new 777X.

How will British Airways respond?

One question worth considering is whether British Airways will drop flights to Australia in 2025. After many years of losses, and after Virgin Atlantic abandoned the route, British Airways had finally started to make money with its flights to Sydney pre-pandemic.

The strategy had been to use smaller, more fuel efficient aircraft, and effectively abandon the backpacker market to Emirates and Qatar. If the business market moves en masse to the direct Qantas flights, irrespective of cost, British Airways may have no choice but to walk away. Running a base in Singapore to handle the Sydney flights adds extra complexity to BA’s operations.

Comments (81)

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  • qrfan says:

    You need to pick an airline/cabin that has dine on demand. Qatar J for example, or BA/EK F. No such issue then. Middle east to Australia is plenty long enough to adjust.

  • Sean D says:

    How long can BA last against this?
    They can’t offer non stop (or even answer a phone this week). Their product is pretty cr-pot compared to emirates.
    Squeezed out in 2025.

  • Jack says:

    I do not see who would want to be on a plane for nearly 20 hours at one time at huge expense versus a quick stop over say in Singapore for much less and not much longer. A direct flight saves 2 hrs at most not really worth it . BA has flown to Sydney for years now and are not going to stop makes them a good amount of money

    • Rob says:

      It doesn’t, that’s the point. It never made money in living memory until Virgin pulled out and it was reduced to a Boeing 787, with only a handful of economy passengers.

      It’s £4k for a fully flex business class ticket to New York (12 hours). How does that stack up against £8,600 for the 48 hour trip to Sydney and the costs of running a Singapore base?

      I’d also suspect the % of business passengers paying full fare to Sydney is smaller than New York, because with just one flight per day your chance of not being on your planned flight and switching is reduced.

      • Mark says:

        That’s not quite accurate though. It may be a Boeing 787 now, but for many years pre-pandemic is was a 777-300ER with 185 economy seats per day each way. As you say, the switch away from the 747 to that, and no doubt the rationalisation of services removing the BA9/10 Bangkok stop option as well as the cessation of Virgin Atlantic services helped to push it into profit but with sizable aircraft that were not particularly premium heavy I’d wager they must have been doing OK for economy revenue on the services for them to be profitable.

        I’m definitely in the no to 20 hours non-stop economy camp. I probably would in a decent J or F seat, but if paying for myself on a leisure trip I doubt I’d want to pay a significant premium for it.

        There will be those who will of course, and no doubt that will attract some custom away from BA as well as Middle East / Asian airlines offering a one-stop service. More than anything though it will likely take custom from Qantas’s existing one-stop services. It remains to be seen how that will balance out; if the one-stop A380 services are to be withdrawn completely does that mean an overall capacity reduction on Qantas services? And to what extent would custom flow in the opposite direction with Qantas customers who prefer a one-stop service (some of whom may choose BA because it is a OneWorld partner)?

  • Tim says:

    I wonder how the fuel consumption figures stack up. Does anyone know if you use more fuel keeping a plane in the air for 21 hours (including the fuel to carry the weight of the fuel), over carrying half the fuel amount but burning extra fuel when taking off after a refuelling stop?

  • John says:

    It’s only an extra 400 miles on great circles via Doha.

    • Dubious says:

      …if avoiding Syrian Airspace (via Doha) and Russian Airspace (Direct) the difference is only about 214miles. I suspect other routing restrictions impact that further.

  • Richie says:

    This will be an expensive service for cash fares and avios redemptions. You won’t earn as many TPs as stopping services and also wouldn’t earn hotel points at stopping point hotels. One for the very time poor really.

  • Paul says:

    A very niche market. LHR PER business class are astronomically expensive. QF is not a carrier for the mileage collector or perhaps more importantly, leisure premium.

  • Dubious says:

    I remember the feeling of impending uncomfortability prior to a Washington DC to Hong Kong flight on CX in Economy. Only about 13 hours duration and I was relieved to receive an upgrade to Premium Economy, but in practice the time flew by. A fellow traveling companion (who did not get upgraded) made a similar remark.

    I think part of these direct services comes down to the scheduled time of departure (and arrival) rather than just the duration. A late evening departure where you are naturally inclined to fall asleep for a long period after the initial meal service helps greatly.

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