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4 x Orlando Upper Class reward seats showing for some Summer dates with Virgin Atlantic

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Virgin Atlantic has – correctly – come under a lot of pressure recently for its failure to release Upper Class reward seats.

(It has also come under a lot of pressure for the taxes and charges being added, but that’s a different story …..)

However, some availability to Orlando has appeared if your family of four fancies a theme park trip this Summer.

Virgin Atlantic Orlando

Here are some screenshots from SeatSpy, which is our preferred route for searching reward availability.

Importantly, I was searching for FOUR Upper Class seats. If you want to go as a couple or with just one child, you’ll find even more options.

Note that we published this article at 3pm on Thursday so if you are reading this via email on Friday morning, a lot of the availability may have gone.

London to Orlando for FOUR people in Upper Class:

The left table is for outbound, the right is for return.

London flights should be on the new A350 so you’re getting the new Upper Class suite, reviewed here.

Manchester to Orlando for FOUR people in Upper Class:

Manchester flights seen to switch between the new A350 and the older A330 – you definitely want the A350 with the new Upper Class Suite if you can.

Virgin Atlantic orlando points seats

If you want to mix and match London and Manchester flights then you’d need to call up. Don’t book 2 x one-way flights online as the taxes go through the roof.

Oddly there is nothing on the new Edinburgh to Orlando service.

This still isn’t cheap, of course. You are looking (unless you have a Virgin Atlantic credit card 2-4-1 or upgrade voucher) at 115,000 Virgin Points per person plus a silly £958 to £991 of taxes and charges, depending on where you start from.

British Airways does not have any dates where you can get 4 x Club World seats out and back during the Summer school holidays.

PS. There is a ludicrous level of Orlando reward availability in Business Class during June with both Virgin Atlantic and British Airways albeit BA has more dates where four people can come back together.


How to earn Virgin Points from UK credit cards

How to earn Virgin Points from UK credit cards (June 2022)

As a reminder, there are various ways of earning Virgin Points from UK credit cards.  Many cards also have generous sign-up bonuses.

You can choose from two official Virgin Atlantic credit cards (apply here, the Reward+ card has a bonus of 15,000 Virgin Points):

Virgin Rewards Plus credit card

Virgin Atlantic Reward+ Mastercard

15,000 points bonus and 1.5 points for every £1 you spend Read our full review

Virgin Rewards credit card

Virgin Atlantic Reward Mastercard

A generous earning rate for a free card at 0.75 points per £1 Read our full review

You can also earn Virgin Points from various American Express cards – and these have sign-up bonuses too.

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold is FREE for a year and comes with 30,000 Membership Rewards points, which convert into 30,000 Virgin Points.

SPECIAL OFFER: The sign-up bonus on Amex Gold is increased from 20,000 Membership Rewards points to 30,000 Membership Rewards points until 19th July 2022. This card is free for the first year.

American Express Amex Gold

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold

Your best beginner’s card – 30,000 points, FREE for a year & two airport lounge passes Read our full review

The Platinum Card from American Express comes with 30,000 Membership Rewards points, which convert into 30,000 Virgin Points.

American Express Platinum card Amex

The Platinum Card from American Express

30,000 points and an unbeatable set of travel benefits – for a fee Read our full review

Small business owners should consider the two American Express Business cards. Points convert at 1:1 into Virgin Points.

Amex Platinum Business American Express

American Express Business Platinum

40,000 points sign-up bonus and a long list of travel benefits Read our full review

American Express Business Gold

20,000 points sign-up bonus and free for a year Read our full review

Click here to read our detailed summary of all UK credit cards which earn Virgin Points

(Want to earn more Virgin Points?  Click here to see our recent articles on Virgin Atlantic and Flying Club and click here for our home page with the latest news on earning and spending other airline and hotel points.)

Comments (42)

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  • Dave P says:

    What would the damage be with a 2-4-1 voucher? I have a current PE return booking, possibly holding off for a UC upgrade. However, more than likely to use all my points to pretty much pay the balance of the holiday?

    • Rob says:

      Depends what status you have – a 241 is actually 2-4-1.5 if you’re only Red so you’d only save (115k/2) on the 2nd ticket, not the full 115k.

  • Graeme says:

    We are currently on holiday on the Gulf Coast. Gas, food and restaurant prices are exceptionally high. The hotel we occasionally stayed in on Treasure Island has gone from $150 a night to north of $700 and that’s May!
    Apart from Covid we’ve been renting a house down here for over ten years. Even the price of clothing and shoes in the outlets are insane, I kid you not it’s cheaper to buy in the UK.
    Sure it’s good to see some award seats opening up, but you are going to need very deep pockets for a holiday here!! I don’t think we’ll be back for quite some time, and the airlines are going to struggle putting bums on seats this winter.

    • NorthernLass says:

      Sounds like it was a good decision to blow my stashes of Bonvoy and HH points on Xmas and New Year in the Keys this coming winter!

    • Dave P says:

      I found the same in NYC – Yes it has always been relatively expensive, but this time felt crazy.
      Yankees Jersey 150 dollars, or £90 delivered to my door from home
      Didn’t pay less than 14 dollars for a ‘pint’ which was more like a schooner
      Food was expensive, silly things like a bag of doritos from Walgreens was 5 dollars.
      I think my love of US holidays, may have to wait, and go back to Asia

      • Gordon says:

        I agree, Been there done that bought the shirt got ripped off. East is my preferred direction.

    • dougzz99 says:

      I was looking at TI for November, prices typically 80% above normal. I was happy previously in the Bilmar, but their rates have got silly for what is a well located motel.

    • JDB says:

      We found that already in 2019 in New England on our way to Quebec that it was ludicrously expensive and the quality of what is on offer for accommodation, food/wine and service, even before tax & tip has really declined in price/quality terms. A couple of decent but not fancy restaurants in a small town in New Hampshire were over $100/head. As for golf green fees…

      We may go back for work or specific events but as a holiday destination when there are other options we will stick with Mexico/South America and South Africa that offer a totally different price basis (helped by their weak currencies) for exceptional accommodation and food/wine, wonderful people, richer culture, superb affordable golf courses and much more. We used to add China into the mix at least once a year, but that’s probably off the agenda now for a very long time and waiting for Sri Lanka to calm down.

      • meta says:

        Totally agree about South America. Quality and price of food is miles better than anything you’ll get in Europe or US.

    • jj says:

      It varies considerably across the USA. New York in Decber was outrageously expensive for everything; Colorado for a January skiing trip was expensive but manageable; Idaho for a second ski trip was really quite affordable – and was also the most pleasant of the three to visit by a considerable margin.

  • Magic Mike says:

    I’m also in the US (Washington state) at the moment and combine inflation with with weakness of the pound and it’s turning out to be a very expensive holiday. An average sit down meal for two is £50+ once tax and tip included. Even breakfast for two in Denny’s was over £30. Hard to find a hotel that isn’t a fleapit for less than £100/night. $7 plus tax plus tip for a US pint of decent beer. At least I found a deal on car rental for £25/day all-in, most places were quoting £50+…

    • qrfan says:

      We just got back from Washington/Oregon and I agree that even ignoring the extremely weak exchange rate (using an icc dollar card) the prices felt very high. Baby stuff was eye watering. $28 for a tin of baby formula half the size of the tins back home we buy for £9. We only needed backup for the flight home fortunately as it was almost the last can left in the Walmart anyway. Makes Tokyo and Singapore look cheap.

      • Junior says:

        You may know this already but there is a very significant formula shortage in the US right now which probably explains this specific example.

        • qrfan says:

          You can’t spend time in the us and not be aware of this.

    • mkcol says:

      I’m confused why you’d expect to pay less than £50 for a dinner for 2, or the general expectation going by the majority of comments that the US should be low cost.

      • Rob says:

        It’s not low cost but – partly driven by the exchange rate more than anything else – it is getting a bit silly as I found last week. Northerners who panic over £5 for a beer in London will have a heart attack at £10++ in NYC. Whilst not representative I also point you to my $38 plus 27% tax and service scrambled egg at the Park Hyatt last week.

        • dougzz99 says:

          Food and drink always been expensive, and poor, at sporting events. In California recently a large can of industrial slop beer was $18 + tax + tip. So $23 to $25 depending on tip for a 25 fl oz can.
          On a positive note they seem to have solved large scale drink driving after sporting events.

        • JDB says:

          And if they survive the heart attack at NYC prices, they need to try Reykjavík or Zurich.

        • mkcol says:

          £5 for a beer in London? You been at Wetherspoons again 😉

          • Gordon says:

            £5…. The last beer I had in London was about 18 months ago in the Punch and Judy in Covent Garden.That was almost £8

      • JDB says:

        Indeed, it’s not difficult to spend £50 for 2 at Pizza Express, so not sure why US should cost any less.

  • pureshtuyot says:

    like I commented on the other Virgin article, they did last week release loads of South Africa reward seats for May June

  • Dace says:

    States started to become crazy expensive from around 2018. Personally I have no desire to return to the States soon, except for maybe New Orleans.

    • ianM says:

      I’m not sure that’s true as a regular traveller, but since November 21 I have noticed a big jump in prices (in Atlanta right now) but the biggest driver of low value has been Brexit which has tanked the UK economy and caused the pound to sink from the normal $1.60 per pound pre Brexit to $1.2 this week.

  • Linda P says:

    I am planning our Colorado/Idaho/Utah trip for September at the moment.

    The hotel prices for a mid budget are crazy and if I want to add on refundable they go up by another 25%. When we were in Nevada/Arizona in March/April this year the fuel prices have gone through the roof like here and the restaurants the same.

    We are now in our 70’s so trying to do as much as we can while we can, money and health permitting.

    Also another thing have some Virgin miles and have looked at all the West coast routes and there is absolutely nothing for next year, keep checking regularly but have exceeded my seat spy limit so its very time consuming any other suggestions.

  • Concerto says:

    I have boycotted the US since 2016. There are so many places to go which are nicer as well as cheaper.

  • Gordon says:

    Flying to Orlando next year Disney world…. (Treating the granddaughters). If your Staying in a resort hotel which we were going to but read that they have stopped the hotels meal service and are offering a food voucher for $1,200 per room (not per person) for a 2 week stay.That’s not going to go far. A large 4 bed 4 bath villa on a gated community with private pool 10 to 15 mins drive to parks is around 2k to 2.5k for 2 weeks.Factoring in the $25 a day parking at parks the latter still wins. That will be my last flight west for some Considerable time there’s so many fantastic places to visit flying East….

    • pauldb says:

      Did you price up a hire car yet?! But yes we did the same this Easter and I think it’s the best option, especially if you have a few meals at home. Disney quick service dining is actually pretty decent.

      • Gordon says:

        Not really looked at car hire yet as not planning going until Oct 2023. So looking nearer the time and tie it all up.
        I have looked at car hire for the US west coast for November this year and Lax airport is a rip off as are most airports because of their fees charged by the airport. But a rental in Los Angelas is almost half the price of the airport cost….

    • The Savage Squirrel says:

      Yes, Orlando is the most extreme example of a location with price mismatch between hotels and rental housing, an entire 4-5 bed villa often pricing cheaper than a single mid hotel room, while a villa plus rental car will be massively cheaper than two rooms (a fairer comparison), even at current prices. The fact that these houses are often in gated villa communities with individual pools AND resort-level central pool facilities and other services only makes the price discrepancy all the more glaring. A family staying in a hotel in Orlando for cash is, frankly, bonkers. They don’t even pass the convenience test as with so many different parks to visit over such a wide area, a hotel simply cannot be convenient for more than one or two anyway.

      • Gordon says:

        Exactly. We had a property in almería Spain a few years back and spent a lot of time out there. Talking to the locals they said that the government were cracking down on people renting their properties out to holiday makers because hotels were complaining about loosing business. Apparently the powers that be were going to check with energy and water companies for meter readings of properties that were not lived in. IE High readings for 1 or 2 weeks then no usage for a period of time.
        I’m not sure if it even took off. As the logistics would have been a nightmare.
        That was long before Airbnb came along….

      • ianM says:

        There are sweet spots with reward stays, last week I was in the Crowne Plaza Lake Buena Vista for about 15000 points a night, including a nice buffet breakfast as Diamond. If you are buying points at 100% bonus that works out about $75 a night

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