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BA quirks: no ‘P’ class earning on Cathay Pacific, checking 241 availability for a ‘new’ voucher

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Two quick pieces, with British Airways ideosyncracies in common!

Cathay Pacific ‘P’ class business fares do not earn Avios or tier points

Back in 2020, during the pandemic, Cathay Pacific added ‘P’ class tickets to their range of business class fares.

This was an intermediate business class fare – more expensive than ‘I’ class, which is the lowest possible business class tariff, but not fully flexible like a ‘J’ class ticket.

It generally takes a few weeks for partner airlines, such as British Airways, to update their earning tables to reflect new fare classes. For some reason, British Airways has never got around to it.

Clearly not many people from the UK have been flying Cathay Pacific in Business Class for the last two years. With Hong Kong now opening up, it is important that British Airways gets this fixed.

This is the current Cathay Pacific earning chart as shown on ba.com here:

As you can see, ‘P’ class earns nothing. It is clearly an oversight as cheaper ‘I’ class fares do earn Avios.

This isn’t a website error. ‘P’ class fares are not posting to British Airways accounts and HfP readers who complain are referred back to the website table above.

If you are booked on a Cathay Pacific ‘P’ class ticket, I suggest that you credit it to a Qatar Privilege Club account and earn Avios that way. The rate is identical to the Executive Club rate at 125% of miles flown as you can see below:

Cathay Pacific earning on Qatar Airways

You can move the Avios from Qatar Privilege Club to your British Airways account by linking your BA and Qatar Airways accounts via the instructions in this article. The only snag here is that you won’t be able to get the tier points into your British Airways Executive Club account.

quirk with the new British Airways Premium Plus 2-4-1 vouchers

A quirk with the new British Airways Premium Plus 2-4-1 vouchers

In September 2021, British Airways and American Express launched an excellent new feature on the 2-4-1 companion voucher that comes with the British Airways Premium Plus credit card.

Vouchers issued after 1st September 2021 get access to improved British Airways business class availability.

Some people forget about this feature. You need to remember that you won’t see the improved availability unless you tick ‘use a companion voucher’ and select ‘2 passengers’ when searching. If you don’t select a voucher you will only be shown the standard availability in business class, which can be a lot worse.

You also need to remember that ‘flight search’ sites such as SeatSpy cannot see this extra availability. They can only track and report on standard business class Avios seats. To see the extra availability you need to search manually.

A couple of quirks have come up since September.

The first is potentially obvious but I know some people miss it. You can only book two tickets into the extra availability. If you tick ‘use a companion voucher’ and search for three or more seats, you will NOT be shown any of the extra availability in business class.

If you want to take advantage of the extra business class seating, you need to make your voucher booking for just one or two people. If a third person is travelling, you need to make a separate booking – which has issues for free seat selection if you have BA status – and hope that there is still a seat left from standard Avios availability. It’s a bit messy.

The second quirk is probably relevant to more people, and is something you are less likely to have thought about.

Once you have made a booking using a 2-4-1 companion voucher, there is no way of seeing which flights still have extra availability with ‘additional’ business class seats.

This can be a problem.

Imagine that you have booked seats for a Saturday using a new-style companion voucher. You would now like to swap to Sunday. How you can tell if there are additional Avios seats available for the Sunday?! Unless you have another unused companion voucher in your account, you can’t.

This should be relatively easy for British Airways to fix. It could be done via ‘Change My Booking’, with the system realising that the original used a new-style 2-4-1 and thus showing extra seats. There could also be a tick-box during the booking process to bring up the additional seating – this could be hidden for members who have never used a new-style companion voucher.

Whatever the solution is, British Airways should look at introducing something to help members out.

You can see the current BA Amex card features in our British Airways Premium Plus American Express review here and our free British Airways American Express review here.


How to earn Avios from UK credit cards

How to earn Avios from UK credit cards (February 2024)

As a reminder, there are various ways of earning Avios points from UK credit cards.  Many cards also have generous sign-up bonuses!

In February 2022, Barclaycard launched two exciting new Barclaycard Avios Mastercard cards with a bonus of up to 25,000 Avios. You can apply here.

You qualify for the bonus on these cards even if you have a British Airways American Express card:

Barclaycard Avios Plus card

Barclaycard Avios Plus Mastercard

Get 25,000 Avios for signing up and an upgrade voucher at £10,000 Read our full review

Barclaycard Avios card

Barclaycard Avios Mastercard

5,000 Avios for signing up and an upgrade voucher at £20,000 Read our full review

There are two official British Airways American Express cards with attractive sign-up bonuses:

British Airways American Express Premium Plus

25,000 Avios and the famous annual 2-4-1 voucher Read our full review

British Airways American Express

5,000 Avios for signing up and an Economy 2-4-1 voucher for spending £12,000 Read our full review

You can also get generous sign-up bonuses by applying for American Express cards which earn Membership Rewards points. These points convert at 1:1 into Avios.

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold

Your best beginner’s card – 20,000 points, FREE for a year & four airport lounge passes Read our full review

The Platinum Card from American Express

40,000 bonus points and a huge range of valuable benefits – for a fee Read our full review

Run your own business?

We recommend Capital On Tap for limited companies. You earn 1 Avios per £1 which is impressive for a Visa card, along with a sign-up bonus worth 10,500 Avios.

Capital On Tap Business Rewards Visa

Get a 10,000 points bonus plus an extra 500 points for our readers Read our full review

You should also consider the British Airways Accelerating Business credit card. This is open to sole traders as well as limited companies and has a 30,000 Avios sign-up bonus.

British Airways Accelerating Business American Express

30,000 Avios sign-up bonus – plus annual bonuses of up to 30,000 Avios Read our full review

There are also generous bonuses on the two American Express Business cards, with the points converting at 1:1 into Avios. These cards are open to sole traders as well as limited companies.

American Express Business Platinum

Crazy 120,000 points bonus (to 9th April) and an annual £200 Amex Travel credit Read our full review

American Express Business Gold

Huge 60,000 points sign-up bonus (until 9th April) and free for a year Read our full review

Click here to read our detailed summary of all UK credit cards which earn Avios. This includes both personal and small business cards.

Comments (48)

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  • Jonathon says:

    If BA are just referring people back to that chart instead of crediting their accounts accordingly that is poor, poor form.

    • John says:

      Crediting accounts with 0 avios, as published, would be worse because you would then be unable to claim with QR or another FFP.

  • Chris says:

    I can see the availability for 4pax using 1 new 241 voucher. Obviously can’t book as it gives me an error at the confirm page. Been able to do it for 4 pax for multiple dates GLA-LHR-SIN or MLE. Definitely no availability showing without the voucher.

    Don’t have 2 vouchers yet to enable me to check if I can book 4 but wording on the website suggests so.

  • Tom says:

    Slightly OT, but regarding the BA 241. Anyone know what happens if only the one of us flies back and the other person is a no show? Would they still let me fly back?

  • Jane says:

    If you have two vouchers and search four passengers can you see the extra availability or would this need to be two separate reservations?

  • Cmichael says:

    Is the avios availability visibility an issue if booking for 3 people with 2 of the new style companion vouchers?

    • Rob says:

      A reader contacted me about this a while back – I don’t think it works. System can’t handle one person at 50% and two people at 241.

  • NorthernLass says:

    There are a lot of things BA could do, IT-wise, to help members out! Reinstate the online cancellation function for award bookings, allow the companion voucher to be used in 2 parts, fix the issues with the Barclaycard voucher, and so on …

    • SK says:

      Touche! I recently tried to change the passenger name (not the dates) on my 241 but they said I had to cancel it first then re-book with the same dates! BA don’t thrive in it’s customer services

    • Gavin says:

      It’s ridiculous that online cancellation is still not available for award bookings (especially annoying if wanting to cancel within 24 hours without any charge – it used to be a 30 second job, exact refund amounts confirmed on-screen, but now requires a potentially very long phone call to make sure it’s processed correctly and in time). It’s been over 2.5 years since they suspended this functionality.

  • Kwab says:

    Say in the scenario of changing over dates, even if I can’t, could the call centre see if there is availability using the new voucher?

    • Rob says:

      No idea

      • Tariq says:

        Yes, this is what I am curious about. I do suspect that BA would just insist that any changes have to be to standard Avios availability. Any experiences from anyone having done this would be valuable.

  • L Allen says:

    Hiding a tick box from people who have never used a companion voucher is a very bad idea. That means new cardholders will never get to see the extra seats

    • Peter K says:

      It’s not hidden. It’s really obvious when booking for 2 people. You’d be hard pressed to miss it.

      • Rob says:

        It is not logical, if just playing around, to select 2 people or a voucher when testing to see what is there, at least for me.

    • Thegasman says:

      Agree entirely! There’s only one reason they don’t let everyone see this extra availability – it’s not as good as they want you to think it is.

      Surely they should want to show off the perks available if you give them some additional revenue?

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