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What’s it like taking a day flight from New York to the UK?

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What are the pros and cons of taking a day flight from New York to London?

On the face of it, the idea of taking such a flight shouldn’t even be newsworthy. In reality it is a bit of a novelty and, in the weeks leading up to my trip, it attracted strong opinions from the frequent flyers I discussed it with.

I suppose I shouldn’t be surprised. After all, I have probably done 20 leisure trips to New York in the last 25 years. I’d guess that I returned directly to the UK on 80% of these flights, and all were ‘red eye’ overnight services.

What's it like taking a day flight from New York to the UK?

There is no practical reason not to operate day flights from New York

And yet …. it is perfectly possible to run day flights on the New York to London route. You don’t come up against the evening closure of Heathrow. Leave New York at 9.15am, as I did last Friday, and you arrive in London at 8pm.

An airline could choose to leave 1-2 hours later if it wished before the risk of hitting the curfew in London if there was a delay became an issue. The AA day flight lands in Heathrow at 9.50pm.

Where’s the fun in getting under 4 hours sleep?

The reason to fly overnight, of course, is the belief that this is the best use of your time. Sleep time is dead time so if you can use that time to cross the Atlantic, it is ideal.

Except, of course, it isn’t. The older you get, the less ideal it seems.

My flight on Friday had an estimated flight time of 6 hours and 8 minutes. You can shave 30 minutes off that with strong tail winds. You can’t sleep for the ascent or the descent. Realistically, you would be lucky to get four hours sleep, and in practice even that rarely happens. If you do sleep, it is low quality sleep.

The idea that you arrive in London at 7am or so, bright eyed and bushy tailed and ready to run enthusiastically into work or the arms of your family is nonsense.

I agree that day flights shorten your holiday

Of course, if you take an overnight flight there is also the advantage that you get to spend more time in New York. I have more sympathy here. After all, given how expensive New York hotels are, leaving at 5am (as I did on Friday) is hardly getting value for money for that final night.

If you are restricted on holiday time, losing a day of your trip to fly back when there is an overnight option doesn’t make a lot of sense. The lure of another day in New York is strong.

Except …. some of the overnight flights back are simply too late, in my view. A 10.35pm departure, which is the latest BA/AA option? No thanks, especially if you had to check out of your hotel at noon. If I am taking a red eye from New York, I book one around 7pm and book a hotel where I get a guaranteed 4pm late check-out.

(American Express Fine Hotels & Resorts for Platinum cardholders gives guaranteed 4pm check-outs on all bookings, as does InterContinental Ambassador and Marriott Bonvoy status if you are Platinum and above. I have used all three of these schemes in New York in the past.)

Why did I take a day flight?

In the end, there were four specific reasons why I took the day flight on Friday:

  • I wanted to be at home on Friday night, so I would be around for my family as soon as we all woke up on Saturday morning
  • I was in New York on a work event, attending a Hyatt function – they paid for my hotel, so I wasn’t concerned about not getting ‘full value’ for the last night
  • with two New York trips under my belt already in the last six months, I didn’t have a long list of sightseeing or shopping requirements
  • Hyatt provided me with a car to the airport, so I didn’t have to worry about a pricey cab or a dubious (given the early hour) subway ride

How did my New York day flight go?

I enjoyed it.

Getting up at 4.30am to get my car at 5am wasn’t fun. Luckily, a media dinner the night before had broken up around 9pm so I wasn’t late in bed.

4.30am New York was 8.30am UK time (the time difference last week was four hours) so I was already back on a UK schedule when I woke.

The city that never sleeps was doing a decent impersonation of it at 5am when my car arrived at the Thompson Central Park hotel (hotel image above, nearby street corner below):

What was shocking was the lack of traffic. I was at Virgin Atlantic’s JFK Terminal 4 in 30 minutes. I couldn’t quite believe that I would need to wait 3 hours and 50 minutes until my flight departed, even assuming it wasn’t delayed.

Security was also a breeze, unsurprisingly. The only issue was after security when, with no signage to the Virgin Atlantic lounge, I headed off towards the Delta one thinking they would be together. Big mistake. It took over 20 minutes to walk to the Delta lounge, learn where the Virgin Atlantic one was and then retrace my steps to get to it …..

Whilst there is only one Virgin Atlantic flight in the morning, the Clubhouse lounge is used by other airlines and there were a couple of other departures around the same time. It was still far quieter than it is during the evening peak though.

Is wi-fi why it works?

Wi-fi is, I think, the real reason why day flights from New York now have a lot more going for them.

A key reason for taking an overnight flight, for business travellers, is so they do not lose any ‘productive’ time.

With decent quality in-flight wi-fi, however, your flight IS now productive – at least, it is if you pay Virgin Atlantic £20.99.

Virgin Atlantic A350

Throw in a couple of hours work in the lounge, plus 3-4 hours on the flight (I typed the first draft of this article in the air) and I made full use of my Friday whilst also being able to sleep in my own bed in the evening.

Virgin Atlantic has been very smart with the food and drink on its day flight.

Two bad options would have been:

  • serve breakfast (always rubbish on a plane) and nothing else except a light snack, or
  • skip breakfast and serve a full dinner around four hours in to a very hungry crowd

Instead, it took a better approach. It serves a full breakfast (if you want one, there are also lighter options) AND a full dinner service.

This was a step up from my outbound flight two days earlier, where I had lunch and then only a light snack closer to landing.

I was able to have a ‘lighter’ breakfast option of a surprisingly good hot bacon roll, pastries and fruit, and then a full three course meal later on. I didn’t arrive in London hungry.

Arriving in London

My flight landed in at London Heathrow at 7.50pm.

Despite delays in getting a stand, with no children in tow to force me to use a manned immigration desk, and with no baggage to collect, I was in an Uber by 8.40pm. I was home by 9.15pm.

Having been up since 8.30am UK time, and not having slept on the flight, I had little difficulty in going to sleep at my standard Friday time of around 11pm. I woke around 9am which is as good as it gets for me on a Saturday.

Would I do a day flight from the US again?

Absolutely, yes, on the basis that you can work on the plane to avoid ‘losing’ a work day and for the benefit of being fully fresh the next morning.

The real crux, however, will come when I am on my next tourist – as opposed to work – visit. Will I be able to handle paying for a hotel room only to leave at 5am, and knowingly ‘missing’ a day in the city? We’ll have to see.

Whilst we didn’t talk about cost ….

One aspect which wasn’t an issue on my trip was cost, because Hyatt paid for my flight and hotel.

Given the short flight time, some people may be willing to settle for Premium Economy on their return flight if it is during the day, even if they would want a flat bed Business Class seat for an overnight flight.

This could tweak the maths on whether the day flight stacks up financially, because the saving on your flight cost would help make up for the hotel value you ‘lose’ by checking out at 5am.

Your options for a New York to London day flight

Based on a random day this week, the following airlines are currently running day flights between New York and London. The departure times are one hour earlier than for my trip due to daylight saving changes in the US:

  • British Airways (Newark to Heathrow) – 07.55, lands 19.35
  • United Airlines (Newark to Heathrow) – 08.30, lands 20.35
  • British Airways (JFK to Heathrow) – 08.05, lands 19.50
  • Virgin Atlantic (JFK to Heathrow) – 08.15, lands 19.50
  • American Airlines (JFK to Heathrow) – 10.00, lands 21.50

Comments (105)

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  • Beverly says:

    It’s the only way to fly back from the States! My mother is in Ohio with no direct flights to Cleveland. Instead, we fly home via Toranto, Newark (excellent!) or JFK. Leave CLE in the afternoon, fly to the departing airport and check into a Crown Plaza / Holiday Inn / Holiday Inn Express (usually using points) for the night for a simple, unexciting meal and a film, and take the shuttle to the airport in the morning. We could leave CLE on the first flight out in the morning, but if that is delayed the whole plan is ruined and you end up on a night flight. far better to be at the departing airport for the night.

    Like Rob, we land at LHR, and are through customs and are home in Hammersmith never more than 2 hours later and sometimes much quicker, using the Underground.

    And, the best bit? Hardly any jet lag at all.

  • Beverly says:

    I forgot to say, the later you land the quicker it is to get through LHR. And, if you fly United or American you miss the horrors of T5.

  • Scottpat78 says:

    I’m going to try a day flight on my next trip to East Coast USA. We came back from NYC in Oct half term on the 23.00 JFK to LHR flight in PE. It was delayed ~30 mins taking off.

    I got a better sleep on that flight due to the time than I have on my last half dozen or so work funded 8PM departures in business class.

  • Louise Smith says:

    Does anyone have any idea how much the seat selection price is typically for exit row seats in economy ?

    • NorthernLass says:

      It was over £70 each last time I looked, think it’s nearer £100 on some routes now! One of the best things about being Silver lol.

      • NorthernLass says:

        I’ve just checked our EWR day flight next August and I had selected bulkhead seats – it’s showing £98 pp for the exit rows!!

        • Louise Smith says:

          Thanks.
          It’s years since I’ve flown economy but even at those prices economy exit row is cheaper than premium, which I think I could cope with on a day time flight.

  • Paul says:

    I have never understood the desire to fly overnight….. anywhere, let alone from the East coast of the USA.

    My rule of thumb is this, any flight that arrives in the evening and allows you to sleep in a proper bed on arrival beats overnight flights hands down!

    Returning from Japan is a great day light service, so too are the day time services from Singapore and Hong Kong!

    The lunch time LHR departure from LHR to SYD involves an overnight but you arrive after 6pm in SYD. It’s a complete no brainer!!

    If airlines provided better, free WiFi in premium cabins, day flights would be both more healthy and productive.

    There was once a line that many chose night flights to avoid hotel bills. I never understood this. You spend thousands on a premium flight but want to save £200 on a hotel!!

    A reminder from the older contributors but BA004 departed at almost 2pm from JFK and you were home by 10pm it was usually packed!!

    • George K says:

      I’m not sure I agree about the ‘anywhere’ part. I have found it massively beneficial in some instances.

      Best example that comes to mind is South Africa, where the 12hr flights are perfectly timed to capitalise on a full night’s sleep in both directions. Indeed, my last three-day hop to Cape Town in April meant I could jump out of the plane having a full day ahead of me, and then leave early evening on the third day, arriving back at Heathrow as the sun came up. I wouldn’t change it one bit!

      • Dace says:

        Yeah, flights to Africa make a lot of sense as night flights. CPT and JHB, as you’ve described, being probably the best examples of this.

      • Paul says:

        Yes but that’s because there is no time difference and in fairness I should have said that.

    • Mikeact says:

      +1 BA004

  • Julian says:

    Did the day flight from JFK to LHR on a 707 way, way back when in 1979. We had a massive tail wind and did the journey in just under 6 hours. We didn’t seem to leave for the airport at Rob’s insanely early time that I would say seems to largely negate the benefits of taking a day flight (but then you could make it from passport control to a flight at Heathrow in just 25 minutes in those days).

    Oh and I now remember my father was on a sugar industry business trip and his globetrotting colleague Chuck was taking Concorde back from JFK (also a day flight) but we actually beat him to Heathrow due to our unusually fast jetstream assisted 707 flight time (something Concorde couldn’t benefit from due to the height it flies at) and the fact that Chuck’s Concorde had tech problems so was delayed by an hour or two.

    Day flights from JFK are not exactly a new development then and seem to make a lot less sense now than 43 years ago due to the ridiculous increase in time needed to get through security etc. On the whole they only really seem to make sense for people who live in the NYC area and are staying with friends or relatives in the UK and so don’t have to pay for a wasted additional night’s accommodation at the UK end of the trip……

  • MT says:

    This article is the exact dilemma i have every time i fly. The convenience of a day flight vs the extra day holiday and the extra cost of the hotel room.

    I generally compromise and try to avoid flights that arrive before 10am (they’re the absolute killers if you can’t sleep for whatever reason)

    • The Savage Squirrel says:

      The comment about PE in the article was astute regarding extra hotel cost.

      Others may disagree, but for a daytime east coast flight on my own dime, I’m perfectly happy in PE – the benefits of the next cabin up are pretty marginal – especially with Virgin PE being pretty good. Far greater saving than even a Manhattan hotel room….

  • SamG says:

    Love the JFK day flight, especially now you can more or less rely on the wifi to get some work done and be online a bit during the UK afternoon. It’s a revelation how quick it is to get to JFK at that time and you can cut it very fine in reality at T7. T8 will be busier so I’ll be leaving a bit earlier.

    A big alert at the moment though – the BA180 EWR day flight is sporadically operated by G-YMMR / S / U. These are 3 class 777 birds that have not been renovated, old CW seats, very old IFE and no power in economy. They were supposed to go in for renovation but that seems to have stalled at the moment.

    The other alternative in my opinion is the BA112 6.30pm flight (or EWR equiv but that one is a bit sporatic on dates it operates), lands around 6am , T5 is very slick around that time (I don’t check bags) so I’m home before the kids go to nursery, have a few hours sleep and don’t feel bad by lunch.

    anything in between I don’t like, it’s really impossible to sleep (we only get Y on sub 8hrs) and you land back in during rush hour etc

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