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What could the new British Airways First Class seat look like?

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Over the weekend, Sean Doyle, CEO of British Airways, reconfirmed via The Sunday Times that the airline would be launching a new First Class cabin and that its existing fleet of 12 A380 aircraft would get it.

This isn’t new news. BA was talking about a next-generation First Class seat back in 2019, when it had just launched its Club Suite business class seat on the A350.

When I spoke to Alex Cruz about it at the time, he said “I’m sure we’ll come out with something significant” and that it would arrive on the Boeing 777X. At that point this was scheduled to arrive in 2022.

What could the new British Airways First Class seat look like?

That never happened, of course. A global pandemic got in the way and airlines paused all non-essential spending. Not that it mattered – Boeing was already dealing with headwinds on the 777X program and announcing delay after delay. The latest update is that British Airways is unlikely to see the first of its 777X until 2026 fleet at the earliest.

In the meantime, BA rolled out an updated version of its existing First Class seat with a door, in part because the introduction of Club Suite left the door-less First in an awkward spot. You can read a reader review of that product here.

What could the new British Airways First Class seat look like?

Was that the long-vaunted new First Class that Alex had teased back in 2019? Or was this merely a opportunistic update enabled by the full refurbishment of the 777 fleet? It wasn’t clear – until now.

In his recent interview with Sean Doyle in The Sunday Times, John Arlidge writes that “Hundreds of millions of pounds will be spent refitting BA’s 12 A380 double-decker superjumbos ….. It will have a new first class — perhaps on the upper deck for the first time — the popular new business-class Club Suite, also upstairs, and new premium economy and economy cabins.”

Although not a direct quote from Sean, we can be pretty sure this has been paraphrased from his words.

What sort of First Class does British Airways want to offer?

Before we look at what other airlines have been doing recently, it is worth asking what kind of First Class British Airways wants to offer.

First Class is, arguably, the cabin with the most diversity and range in terms of what can be done. It can range from a conventional business class seat with a bit more personal space and privacy to full-blown mini-suites such as those found on Emirates, Singapore Airlines and Etihad.

What could the new British Airways First Class seat look like?

Historically, BA’s First Class has been more of a mass-market offering. This comes down to a number of factors, including:

  • Cabin size: although it is starting to downsize, BA’s A380s and even some of its 777 and 747s featured First Class cabins with 12-14 seats. Most airlines install eight seats or fewer – Air France now only has four.
  • Seat size: BA’s current First Class seat is fundamentally a business class seat with more privacy and personal space, rather than an enclosed mini-suite found on some airlines
  • Service levels: unlike other airlines, BA doesn’t offer chauffeur drive, serve caviar or some of the other luxurious touches you’ll find on other airlines.

All of those factors meant that First Class on British Airways was typically a cheaper, more affordable offering than other First Class cabins, and is why you can often find return tickets in First for around £2,500 during sales.

That’s not necessarily a bad thing – it just means that BA’s First Class offering is pitched at a different market to other airlines. It’s in good company, with a number of airlines offering First Class cabins that aren’t as ludicrously luxurious as Etihad’s Apartment, Emirates’ new First Class on the Boeing 777s or Singapore Airlines’ impressive A380 suites.

British Airways will have to decide whether it continues with an improved but still mass-affluent cabin or whether it wants to move to an increasingly exclusive, uber-luxurious model spearheaded by the Middle Eastern airlines.

Let’s take a look at the benefits and drawbacks of both approaches:

Option 1: an improved but still ‘traditional’ First Class

This is, in my opinion, the more likely of the two scenarios. Although it’s not as flashy, I still think there are a lot of exciting opportunities here for British Airways to deliver a really solid First Class experience.

Let’s start with the seat. In this scenario, BA sticks with a business class style seat with improved personal space and privacy and a larger in-flight entertainment screen.

Probably the best example of a new seat in this category is ANA’s ‘THE Suite’, which it launched on Boeing 777-300ER services back in 2019. ANA installs this in a 1-2-1 configuration with eight seats in total:

ANA first class the suite

What you get is a full-width seat from head to toe. One key differentiator from business class seats is that there is no tessellation – or overlap – of passengers in the seat layout, with one passenger’s foot cubby making up the side console of the passenger in front. In this scenario the entire 34-inch, 86cm width is yours, from window to aisle.

This is also similar to the ‘rebranded First Class’ Business Suite offered by Malaysia Airlines on its A350s:

Malaysia Airlines business suite

In both cases, the seats are in fully-enclosed shells. These do not feature ceiling-high walls but they do offer doors and a high level of privacy.

A more conventional seat design will necessitate a greater focus on service to distinguish itself from business class. This would require improved crew training and a continued focus on food and drinks service, branded amenity partnerships and an eye for detail.

Option 2: an ultra-luxurious, exclusive First Class suite

In the second scenario, BA goes all-out to create an ultra-luxury product to rival the best of the Middle Eastern and Asian airlines. For reasons I’m about to explain, I think this is unlikely.

Instead of a seat, each passenger gets their own mini-suite/cabin, with virtually floor-to-ceiling high walls and doors for unparalleled privacy. Think of the Emirates ‘Game Changer’ First Class Suite which Rob reviewed here:

Emirates 777 First class suite

…. or Singapore Airlines’ A380 Suites, which can be converted into a double bed if two passengers are travelling together:

Singapore Airlines A380 first class suite

Interestingly, we’ve also seen Lufthansa move in this direction for its new First Class suites coming early next year:

Lufthansa Allegris First class seat

Whilst these seats are impressive, they aren’t without their downsides:

  • The increased size of each individual suite means there are fewer available, restricting demand and creating a more exclusive (but also less attainable) experience. Emirates only has six suites on their 777 fleet whilst Singapore Airlines installs just six suites on the much larger A380, too. Lufthansa is planning to put just three suites on its aircraft.
  • As a result of their increased footprint, you can also expect them to be significantly more expensive versus a conventional First Class seat
  • Redemption opportunities are likely to be extremely limited: for example, Emirates used to only open redemptions three days in advance whilst Air France restricts First Class redemptions to Flying Blue Platinum members. Of course, some airlines with less impressive products also have redemption restrictions – SWISS only allows HON Circle and Senator (BA Gold Guest List and Gold equivalent) to redeem in First Class whilst Lufthansa blocks redemptions via partner airline programmes until 14 days before departure.

Whilst these suites are a boon for YouTubers and influencers, their limited availability and price means that far fewer passengers are able to experience them. British Airways would be likely to block Avios redemptions entirely or restrict them to top tier members, and even then you would be unlikely to see more than one seat per flight.

Of course, these suites would also need to be matched by equally luxurious amenities and service. Caviar, £200+ bottles of champagne and even £800+ bottles of Cognac (see Rob’s Emirates review) are often the benefits of these ultra-luxurious cabins.

You would also need to upgrade the ground experience. Airport chauffeuring, private lounge-to-plane transfers and stand-alone First Class terminals are common features. Making your way on foot from the Concorde Room to a flight at Terminal 5C won’t cut it.

Conclusion

There’s a lot to think about here. There are, of course, other alternatives. Air France’s current First Class cabin (it is about to introduce a new one) features conventional seats but with a full-height privacy curtain. Part of the appeal here is an outstanding ground experience for departures from Paris.

Qantas, meanwhile, has just unveiled its own next-generation First Class cabin: in this case, a separate seat-and-bed but without full-height walls for a more open cabin.

Qantas new First class seat

It will be interesting to see which path British Airways takes, although I suspect it will be the mass affluent, more conventional option. This makes more sense for BA’s high-volume transatlantic focus with average flight lengths between six and twelve hours.

(It is also worth remembering that BA has historically used large First cabins as a carrot to fly with the airline, with regular pre-covid promotions offering a free one way First Class upgrade to anyone booking a fully flexible return business class ticket.)

One thing I do hope to see is a greater focus on texture and detail than we saw on Club Suite which I think looks a bit drab and grey compared to some of its competitors. With any luck, BA will pull on the UK’s rich design heritage to create a seat that may not be bespoke but feels uniquely BA.

Either way, it will likely be another couple of years until we see what British Airways has been cooking up. With the arrival of the Boeing 777Xs delayed until at least 2026 and the refurbishment of the A380s likely to start in 2025 at the earliest, BA still has a few years to perfect its plans. In the meantime, you can read more about BA’s existing First Class in our guide here.


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Comments (92)

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  • jj says:

    I doubt it will happen, but I’d like to see them respond to the growing demand for premium leisure travel by improving the experience for couples. Whilst beloved by bloggers, Club Suite and the latest first seats are a serious downgrade on earlier offerings for couples, with conversation being difficult and no opportunity for buddy dining. My wife passionately hates Club Suite and the 787 First cabins, and I incline to her view. We can’t be the only people who think that way.

    • meta says:

      I agree. I do like to talk to my partner and it’s also nice to toast at the beginning of the trip even on night flights.

  • Alex G says:

    Club Suite is now so good, that I wouldn’t pay an extra £500 for First. The best thing about First is the Concorde Room, but once you’ve done it once the novelty quickly wears off.

    I’ve only flown First a couple of times. On a 787 and 380. Both times I felt the bed didn’t go properly flat with the head being slightly raised. And the seats are not wide enough.

    First needs a big, flat, wide bed.

    Plus First needs some excellent cabin crew. BA still has a few, but they are close to retirement age.

    • Chris W says:

      This is a very good point. Unless BA can make the new first class significantly better than Club Suite, they should just get rid of the class altogether.

    • JDB says:

      I’m not sure that “Club Suite is now so good” in many people’s perception. They may have a decent decent seat but they have insufficient staff, galley space and loos for their huge (vs other airlines) J cabins. The Club World food offering is well below cheap ready meals and wines have been downgraded so now about two shelves below other airlines, so best to bring your own. The service is pitifully slow as a result of the staff and galley problem; particularly acute on late departures such as CPT and EZE.

      They are also gradually ruining the decent newish seat by failing to maintain or clean it. Apart from that, it’s all lovely.

      • Qrfan says:

        I totally agree. It’s a “decent”, not market leading, seat with low end soft product that can only be described as “so good” relative to the rest of the junk BA flies.

      • S says:

        To be honest I find CS seat quite claustrophobic, in an overly large cabin (on the 350s) meaning the service is unexceptional. In fact I’ve flown every cabin on the 350 this year and the service is comparable in each!

    • Qrfan says:

      Club suite is just a regular herringbone seat with a door added. It’s basically the same seat that American have been using for years, and it’s nowhere near first class standards. Fly first on a proper airline, with a shower, caviar, high end champagne and butler style service you’d realise it’s worth a lot more than £500 over club suite. On my last long haul flight BA hadn’t even managed to load the menus…

      • Alex G says:

        Yes. Its the same seat I was flying on with AA ten years ago, and it is very good. And it is very near to BA’s First seats in terms of comfort, which is what I mainly care about. I don’t need caviar or overpriced champagne on a flight.

        • Rob says:

          The champagne is free Alex, have you been dealing with dodgy crew? 🙂

    • Chris says:

      On the 787 at least The headrest angle is electrically adjustable on the rotary controller. Bed mode doesn’t reset it; so if you are flying after someone adjusted it you may need to set it back.

  • Richie says:

    The width of the cabin at window height is larger on the B777X than the B773, B787 and A380 UD, it’d be a shame not to utilise it for seat width.

    • Rhys says:

      Can’t just design for one aircraft, unfortunately. Same problem with Club Suite, where the size of the console table varies depending on aircraft but the seat itself is the same width.

      • Richie says:

        So is the width of the B777X’s fuselage good for cargo if not First passengers?

        • Rhys says:

          Surely depends on the cargo you want to transport?…! Not sure what you’re getting at here!

  • insider says:

    Many years ago when I worked for BA, the sweet spot for F seats was around 8, hence the 787 configs. Any more than that, you just ended up filling it with staff on staff travel. F was an important concept still, with several corporates demanding it for their top execs, but the days of 14F have long gone. BA is too conservative, and frankly worries about what the US carriers are doing, not the Eastern facing ones to go for a super luxurious F seat, so in all likelihood, you may see something with marginally more floorspace than the current F, but nothing radical.

    • jjoohhnn says:

      It was 17 first class on some the of 777-200s until a couple of years ago when they were refurbished.

  • Chris says:

    Only wish for whatever comes next is that I can look out of the window again.

  • Olivia says:

    BA First Class I think will always continue to be a high end business product. Much rather see an accelerated Club Suite roll out than changes to F, nothing more depressing as it stands when you book a reward flight in Biz expecting Club Suite and is changed to 20 year old Club World product.

    • Rhys says:

      Won’t happen – supply chain issues in producing Club Suite (and other business class seats) industry-wide.

      Although by the time this F is introduced, the vast majority of the fleet should hopefully have Club Suite!

      • David S says:

        Unless you are flying from Gatwick

        • LittleNick says:

          Hopefully they will have re-furbished the Gatwick fleet by then

          • TGLoyalty says:

            They won’t because it’s not long been refurbished with CW seats.

            Personally I like the latest CW seat and don’t get the CS fascination

  • Tom says:

    “I’m sure we’ll come out with something significant” a CEO with his hands firmly on the tiller if I ever saw one…

    • Tom says:

      P.S. Rob, sorry, your categorisation here is illogical to me. ANA’s “The Suite” probably takes up a minimum of1.5x the footprint of BA’s current 777 F seat and would therefore itself require a total step change in how BA approached F, including pricing, for them to be able to allocate that much space to each F seat (have you ever done a comparison of cash pricing between BA F and NH F to Tokyo? BA is often half the price). Even “The Room” is close to the size of BA F. MH Business Suites I agree represents an equivalent product to what BA currently offers and similar seats to that (e.g. WY and TG’s new F) would be a ‘continuity’ type option.

      • Tom says:

        Apologies, realised this is Rhys.

      • Rhys says:

        MH Business Suites and The Suite are both forward-facing, non-tesselating seats so I would say they take up roughly equivalent floor space.

        Note that Club Suite is a less dense product than the legacy Club World seat, too. I don’t expect to see a like-for-like product being introduced, otherwise what’s the point?

        • Tom says:

          So do BA A380 First and the Club Suite also take up the same floor space according to this logic?

          It’s just factually incorrect that The Suite and MH’s Business Suite take up the same floor space. MH Business suite is much smaller than The Suite. It’s based on the Vantage XL seat which various airlines use in business class but customised. It isn’t really a huge upgrade on ANA’s The Room, Apex Suites etc. and doesn’t really take up much more space than the leading business class seats as a result. It’s a half way house between proper first and business class, exactly like BA’s current First.

          • Rhys says:

            The Suite: full-width, non tessellating
            Business Suites: full-width, non-tessellating
            BA F: angled, slightly tessellating

            You can argue that The Suite is longer than the Business Suites but at least part of the efficiency of the BA F footprint is because there is some overlap between one row and the next, just as there is with most business class seats. This is NOT the case on ANA or MH.

            By the way, Business Suites are based on the Vantage First platform – this is related to but not identical to VantageXL. The major difference being, again, that each row is distinct with no overlap. Virgin Atlantic does what you are talking about on its neos, with a extra-space first row which does tessellate with the rest of the Upper Class cabin. But on the MH A350s it is a distinct cabin.

  • namster says:

    is the club suite just a cheaper version of what qatar has in there q-suite or are there bigger differences?

    • Rhys says:

      Qsuite is unlike anything else on the market, so forget any comparisons. It is larger and much, much heavier than most airlines are willing to put on their aircraft.

      • LittleNick says:

        How does Q-suite compare vs BA F space wise?

        • Rhys says:

          Fairly well, to be honest, although BA F feels more open (both in general but also in terms of leg room and bed size).

    • Qrfan says:

      Club suite is basically the same as the Qatar OLD seat, but with a door. It’s nothing like as special as people seem to make out. It’s fine, but not novel. American have used this seat for years without the door.

    • Rob says:

      It’s a cheaper version of what Etihad is now installing, which is the same seat but on a bigger budget for finishes and fabrics.

      • FatherOfFour says:

        Has the start of Etihad’s roll out programme affected the speed of BA’s? What would need to be true for Collins Aerospace to increase production? I’m guessing significant investment to expand premises etc. rather than just a labour increase?
        I think I’m minded with jj though. I’ve not tried CS, but it does look more claustrophobic than old CW and I do appreciate the odd bit of communication with MotherOfFour… Maybe one day “Four” will travel in Club with us- but wont be practical in CS as it stands.

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