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Why is the Amex deal to award British Airways Club tier points still a secret?

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When details of the new British Airways Club were quietly slipped out on 30th December, one small upside was the promised opportunity to earn up to 2,500 tier points per year via the British Airways Premium Plus American Express card.

We were told that “More details of this offer will be announced closer to the launch date.”

With 10 days to go, BA is cutting it fine.

Earning British Airways tier points from American Express

Why is the announcement delayed?

The word on the street is that British Airways expects to be paid by American Express whenever tier points are earned from the Premium Plus American Express card.

If this is true (and it may not be!) you can see why American Express may not be keen, at least under certain scenarios.

Taking a blank sheet of paper, you can imagine a structure that awarded 1 tier point for every £10 spent on the British Airways Premium Plus American Express card. You would need to spend £25,000 to earn the full 2,500 tier points.

However, you are ALREADY incentivised to spend £15,000 on your Premium Plus card to trigger the 2-4-1 companion voucher. Why should American Express pay for tier points to incentivise you further to spend the first £15,000?

If I was American Express, I would want to award 1 tier point for every £10 spent AFTER the companion voucher was triggered. This would require £40,000 of spend to trigger the full 2,500 tier points.

The issues here are clear though:

  • many people cannot spend £40,000 per year on an American Express card
  • those who can will often spend £15,000 on their Premium Plus card and then swap to other American Express products – and these are likely to be more profitable for Amex than the British Airways card

There is also a more fundamental issue.

Many BA Amex cardholders spend £14,999 on their card and put it in a drawer. It doesn’t make sense to trigger the companion voucher early because you start the two year clock on having to use it.

There is a very simple way of solving this problem which we outlined here. The voucher should be changed to be valid for two years FROM THE END OF YOUR MEMBERSHIP YEAR. This means that you don’t need to stop spending as the £15,000 target approaches.

Anyone who puts their card away when they hit £14,999 of spending will be in a dilemma if they want to earn tier points. Cardholders will need to choose between triggering their voucher early or not maximising their tier point earning.

Earning British Airways tier points from American Express

There is a potential third way

What British Airways and American Express should have considered was allowing cardholders to choose between Avios and tier points.

This would be an elegant solution to a number of problems.

Let’s assume that American Express paid BA the same amount per £1 spent irrespective of whether you took Avios or tier points.

Some British Airways Club members are motivated by Avios. Others are motivated by status. Allowing people to choose which is most important to them – by selecting tier points or Avios – would allow each member to maximise the benefit they value most.

The companion voucher could still be awarded at £15,000 of spending irrespective of the option chosen.

With my accountant hat on, there would be a big upside for BA if it did this. Unused Avios sit on the IAG balance sheet as a liability. If a member chooses tier points instead of Avios, the money paid by Amex would be booked as revenue with no need for any corresponding liability.

Why are tier points being capped at 2,500 per year?

When American Airlines moved to its new model a couple of years ago, the number of status-earning points you could earn from card spend was uncapped.

You can earn American Airlines elite status purely from credit card spend.

If someone wants to put £250,000 per year through their Premium Plus American Express card to earn BA Gold status, why shouldn’t they? With HMRC now accepting Amex if you use an intermediary (article to follow, including a HfP sign-up offer) it is easier than ever to put substantial spend through your card.

‘Real’ Gold members may complain if this was allowed – but this would arguably be hypocritical given that, from 2026, 95% (a guess) of Gold members will have got it by spending their employer’s money, not their own.

BA should ignore the moans. Elite members who don’t fly much cost very little to service. They aren’t visiting many lounges. They aren’t getting many additional suitcases checked in for free. They aren’t saving much on seat selection fees, especially if they refused to pay in the first place. Flatter the ego of people who are willing to trade Avios for tier points despite not flying much and bank the American Express cash!

Earning British Airways tier points from American Express

The oneworld alliance membership agreement sets restrictions on the number of tier points that an airline can award from non-flying activity.

However, my understanding is that this is based on the total number of tier points issued. It isn’t capped by member account, so there is no reason why some members cannot earn all of their tier points from non-flying activity – as long as everyone doesn’t do it!

Qatar Airways has followed American and allows unlimited tier point earning from its US credit cards. Finnair allows members to convert Avios to cover 50% of the tier points needed to earn or retain status.

What is intriguing is that, on the US version of the new British Airways Club website, there is no published cap on the number of tier points that can be earned from credit cards.

ba.com in the US says:

In 2025, Members who hold selected credit cards will have the opportunity to earn even more Tier Points by spending on their card. More details coming soon.

It is possible that BA will allow US members of British Airways Club to earn unlimited tier points from card spend, in order to compete with cards from American Airlines and Qatar Airways. Shouldn’t UK members be given the same deal?

Conclusion

With just 10 days to go, there is still no clarity on how you will be able to earn tier points from British Airways Premium Plus American Express cards.

Given that people have been booking flights on the assumption that they will be able to earn 2,500 tier points from American Express, it is unfair that this information has not been released.

Whatever the deal eventually looks like, it is likely to be sub-optimal compared to the structure we propose above.


How to earn Avios from UK credit cards

How to earn Avios from UK credit cards (April 2025)

As a reminder, there are various ways of earning Avios points from UK credit cards.  Many cards also have generous sign-up bonuses!

In February 2022, Barclaycard launched two exciting new Barclaycard Avios Mastercard cards with a bonus of up to 25,000 Avios. You can apply here.

You qualify for the bonus on these cards even if you have a British Airways American Express card:

Barclaycard Avios Plus card

Barclaycard Avios Plus Mastercard

Get 25,000 Avios for signing up and an upgrade voucher at £10,000 Read our full review

Barclaycard Avios card

Barclaycard Avios Mastercard

Get 5,000 Avios for signing up and an upgrade voucher at £20,000 Read our full review

There are two official British Airways American Express cards with attractive sign-up bonuses:

British Airways American Express Premium Plus

30,000 Avios and the famous annual 2-4-1 voucher Read our full review

British Airways American Express

5,000 Avios for signing up and an Economy 2-4-1 voucher for spending £15,000 Read our full review

You can also get generous sign-up bonuses by applying for American Express cards which earn Membership Rewards points. These points convert at 1:1 into Avios.

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold

Your best beginner’s card – 30,000 points, FREE for a year & four airport lounge passes Read our full review

The Platinum Card from American Express

80,000 bonus points and great travel benefits – for a large fee Read our full review

Run your own business?

We recommend Capital on Tap for limited companies. You earn 1 Avios per £1 which is impressive for a Visa card, and the standard card is FREE. Capital on Tap cards also have no FX fees.

Capital on Tap Visa

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Capital on Tap Pro Visa

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There is also a British Airways American Express card for small businesses:

British Airways American Express Accelerating Business

30,000 Avios sign-up bonus – plus annual bonuses of up to 30,000 Avios Read our full review

There are also generous bonuses on the two American Express Business cards, with the points converting at 1:1 into Avios. These cards are open to sole traders as well as limited companies.

American Express Business Platinum

50,000 points when you sign-up and an annual £200 Amex Travel credit Read our full review

American Express Business Gold

20,000 points sign-up bonus and FREE for a year Read our full review

Click here to read our detailed summary of all UK credit cards which earn Avios. This includes both personal and small business cards.

Comments (130)

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  • BA Flyer IHG Stayer says:

    If I was AMEX I’d be telling BA this is a self inflicted BA problem and they can sort it out themselves and not expect me to pay them an extra penny!

    But if I were to acquiesce I’d want other improvements made such as your idea on 2-4-1 issue and validity dates.

    • ken says:

      Exactly.

      How many extra customers does this drive to BAPP ?
      Or how much additional spending by existing customers ?

      I don’t think BA have a strong hand here

  • Tariq says:

    Maybe they will make people choose between the companion voucher and tier points.

    • PH says:

      Yes like the Barclaycard choice between the voucher or the 7K Avios…

  • roberto says:

    There is no commitment to have this released on the 1st April. BA have never said it would be, its always been advertised as “some time in the future”.

    • CheshirePete says:

      Yeah, I was never going to fall for this carrot after the manner in which BA have shafted its loyalty base. Anyone relying or thinking they’d pull a rabbit out of the hat to soften the blow via this mechanism, was certainly still living the dream, but it’s time to wake up perhaps!

    • NFH says:

      I disagree. The implication is strongly that the tier points earning starts from April 2025.

      The e-mail states “From April 2025, we are delighted to welcome you to The British Airways Club. A Club designed to give you more opportunities to unlock rewards, combined with a fresh look and feel. … There will also be new ways to earn Tier Points. From booking holiday packages with British Airways Holidays, making contributions to Sustainable Aviation Fuels (‘SAF’)¹, adding extras to your booking like seating or baggage, or a spend-based offer on the British Airways American Express® Premium Plus Card², giving you more ways to earn than ever before. … ²Spending on a British Airways American Express ® Premium Plus Card – Cardmembers will be able to earn up to 2,500 Tier Points by spending on their card,. More details of this offer will be announced closer to the launch date.

      The launch date is clearly April 2025. The above forms binding contractual terms pursuant to Section 50 of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, and any ambiguity in these contractual terms must be interpreted in favour of the consumer pursuant to Section 69 of the Consumer Rights Act 2015 (contra proferentem).

      • David says:

        I never read that into it. I have to agree with Roberto – I see the clamour on Flyertalk of people thinking that the Amex tier point position would be in place on 1st April but I see no basis for it at all. The mail says ‘From April 2025’ which is when the Club comes into being, but the ‘More details of this offer will be announced closer to the launch date’ bit you didn’t highlight is surely a strong indicator it would be launched later.

        I’ve not received any communication through from Amex on any changes. My contract is with them and not British Airways.

        • Rob says:

          How can you launch it later?! Even if you backdate spend, people will have put spend onto other cards already because they didn’t know the small print. Our WeWork rent bill on 1st April isn’t going on my BAPP because I’m at £13000 of spend already.

          • David says:

            It should have been co-termed, I agree. But the changes to Executive Club were announced with only 3 months notice ahead of coming into force, so can only presume that discussions with Amex were nowhere near advanced enough, and may have bearing on existing contracts between the two. The previous tier points earning for spend was a targetted offer and not a core product feature.

            My point is really about the communications not the fact that BA and Amex should have been aligned. Linking the first line of the mail (detailing when The British Airways Club would launch) with details of the future offer when tier points could be earned on Amex seems tenuous to me. If it is indeed a 100% slam dunk in favour of the consumer as has been detailed then there should be no reason for anyone seeking nTP’s to hold off spend from 1st April 🙂

          • Carl says:

            How can you put business spend through a personal card, won’t Amex close you account for doing that?

          • Rob says:

            At some point, yes.

        • NFH says:

          Earlier in the e-mail, it gives the launch date of the new “British Airways Club” as “April 2025“, of which the e-mail subsequently lists the new benefits. The e-mail then states that more details of the benefit in question “will be announced closer to the launch date“, which it had already stated will be “April 2025“. Any ambiguity is subject to contra proferentem.

          • JAXBA says:

            Closer to the launch date.. they gave 3 months notice on 30Dec… meaning they could hypothetically take 2¾ months from launch to finally communicate the CC nTPs, and still be ‘closer’ to the the launch date than the initial announcement… wouldn’t be prudent, but then…

    • RC says:

      Only in the deluded world at Waterside does that sound credible.
      It’s not btw – if you read what was released in December

  • CheshirePete says:

    I know people that have already ditched the AXPP card. So the spending has already stopped. I’d already canx mine last year for different reasons, although was still putting spend thru a Supplementary card for the triple Avios into our household account. However, our spending for future commitments to BA have already fallen off a cliff since the announced changes.

    I do find this article very interesting and thought out, however it makes one big assumption. What are the data points to say exactly how many people who were married to BA have already walked away, so getting a meagre 2,500 from AX has already become a moot point. We as a BA household have absolutely no interest or investment in pushing anything further thru the BAPP product.

  • VinZ says:

    I wonder if the TP earned on the BAPP will be allocated to a BA account automatically or one can choose to spare them to an IB account. But I think I know the answer to that already.
    Until we know what the earning rate is going to be, not sure how one can decide to which programme allocate their spending?

  • Keith Purdom says:

    Having already changed my travel habits in favour of AF from status match and LCC i am still astonished its legal to encourage me to spend to achieve Gold for life then having taken my money change the goalposts

  • Chris W says:

    I don’t think only earning TPs (and not Avios) from a premium credit card is going to be a very compelling offer.

    The delay is likely because Amex are in a very strong negotiating position after watching how negative the reaction was from travelers after the December 30 news, and they are playing hardball on the terms.

  • Tim W. says:

    “BA should ignore the moans.” After all, they have plenty of practice.

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