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Why is the Amex deal to award British Airways Club tier points still a secret?

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When details of the new British Airways Club were quietly slipped out on 30th December, one small upside was the promised opportunity to earn up to 2,500 tier points per year via the British Airways Premium Plus American Express card.

We were told that “More details of this offer will be announced closer to the launch date.”

With 10 days to go, BA is cutting it fine.

Earning British Airways tier points from American Express

Why is the announcement delayed?

The word on the street is that British Airways expects to be paid by American Express whenever tier points are earned from the Premium Plus American Express card.

If this is true (and it may not be!) you can see why American Express may not be keen, at least under certain scenarios.

Taking a blank sheet of paper, you can imagine a structure that awarded 1 tier point for every £10 spent on the British Airways Premium Plus American Express card. You would need to spend £25,000 to earn the full 2,500 tier points.

However, you are ALREADY incentivised to spend £15,000 on your Premium Plus card to trigger the 2-4-1 companion voucher. Why should American Express pay for tier points to incentivise you further to spend the first £15,000?

If I was American Express, I would want to award 1 tier point for every £10 spent AFTER the companion voucher was triggered. This would require £40,000 of spend to trigger the full 2,500 tier points.

The issues here are clear though:

  • many people cannot spend £40,000 per year on an American Express card
  • those who can will often spend £15,000 on their Premium Plus card and then swap to other American Express products – and these are likely to be more profitable for Amex than the British Airways card

There is also a more fundamental issue.

Many BA Amex cardholders spend £14,999 on their card and put it in a drawer. It doesn’t make sense to trigger the companion voucher early because you start the two year clock on having to use it.

There is a very simple way of solving this problem which we outlined here. The voucher should be changed to be valid for two years FROM THE END OF YOUR MEMBERSHIP YEAR. This means that you don’t need to stop spending as the £15,000 target approaches.

Anyone who puts their card away when they hit £14,999 of spending will be in a dilemma if they want to earn tier points. Cardholders will need to choose between triggering their voucher early or not maximising their tier point earning.

Earning British Airways tier points from American Express

There is a potential third way

What British Airways and American Express should have considered was allowing cardholders to choose between Avios and tier points.

This would be an elegant solution to a number of problems.

Let’s assume that American Express paid BA the same amount per £1 spent irrespective of whether you took Avios or tier points.

Some British Airways Club members are motivated by Avios. Others are motivated by status. Allowing people to choose which is most important to them – by selecting tier points or Avios – would allow each member to maximise the benefit they value most.

The companion voucher could still be awarded at £15,000 of spending irrespective of the option chosen.

With my accountant hat on, there would be a big upside for BA if it did this. Unused Avios sit on the IAG balance sheet as a liability. If a member chooses tier points instead of Avios, the money paid by Amex would be booked as revenue with no need for any corresponding liability.

Why are tier points being capped at 2,500 per year?

When American Airlines moved to its new model a couple of years ago, the number of status-earning points you could earn from card spend was uncapped.

You can earn American Airlines elite status purely from credit card spend.

If someone wants to put £250,000 per year through their Premium Plus American Express card to earn BA Gold status, why shouldn’t they? With HMRC now accepting Amex if you use an intermediary (article to follow, including a HfP sign-up offer) it is easier than ever to put substantial spend through your card.

‘Real’ Gold members may complain if this was allowed – but this would arguably be hypocritical given that, from 2026, 95% (a guess) of Gold members will have got it by spending their employer’s money, not their own.

BA should ignore the moans. Elite members who don’t fly much cost very little to service. They aren’t visiting many lounges. They aren’t getting many additional suitcases checked in for free. They aren’t saving much on seat selection fees, especially if they refused to pay in the first place. Flatter the ego of people who are willing to trade Avios for tier points despite not flying much and bank the American Express cash!

Earning British Airways tier points from American Express

The oneworld alliance membership agreement sets restrictions on the number of tier points that an airline can award from non-flying activity.

However, my understanding is that this is based on the total number of tier points issued. It isn’t capped by member account, so there is no reason why some members cannot earn all of their tier points from non-flying activity – as long as everyone doesn’t do it!

Qatar Airways has followed American and allows unlimited tier point earning from its US credit cards. Finnair allows members to convert Avios to cover 50% of the tier points needed to earn or retain status.

What is intriguing is that, on the US version of the new British Airways Club website, there is no published cap on the number of tier points that can be earned from credit cards.

ba.com in the US says:

In 2025, Members who hold selected credit cards will have the opportunity to earn even more Tier Points by spending on their card. More details coming soon.

It is possible that BA will allow US members of British Airways Club to earn unlimited tier points from card spend, in order to compete with cards from American Airlines and Qatar Airways. Shouldn’t UK members be given the same deal?

Conclusion

With just 10 days to go, there is still no clarity on how you will be able to earn tier points from British Airways Premium Plus American Express cards.

Given that people have been booking flights on the assumption that they will be able to earn 2,500 tier points from American Express, it is unfair that this information has not been released.

Whatever the deal eventually looks like, it is likely to be sub-optimal compared to the structure we propose above.


How to earn Avios from UK credit cards

How to earn Avios from UK credit cards (April 2025)

As a reminder, there are various ways of earning Avios points from UK credit cards.  Many cards also have generous sign-up bonuses!

In February 2022, Barclaycard launched two exciting new Barclaycard Avios Mastercard cards with a bonus of up to 25,000 Avios. You can apply here.

You qualify for the bonus on these cards even if you have a British Airways American Express card:

Barclaycard Avios Plus card

Barclaycard Avios Plus Mastercard

Get 25,000 Avios for signing up and an upgrade voucher at £10,000 Read our full review

Barclaycard Avios card

Barclaycard Avios Mastercard

Get 5,000 Avios for signing up and an upgrade voucher at £20,000 Read our full review

There are two official British Airways American Express cards with attractive sign-up bonuses:

British Airways American Express Premium Plus

30,000 Avios and the famous annual 2-4-1 voucher Read our full review

British Airways American Express

5,000 Avios for signing up and an Economy 2-4-1 voucher for spending £15,000 Read our full review

You can also get generous sign-up bonuses by applying for American Express cards which earn Membership Rewards points. These points convert at 1:1 into Avios.

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold

Your best beginner’s card – 30,000 points, FREE for a year & four airport lounge passes Read our full review

The Platinum Card from American Express

80,000 bonus points and great travel benefits – for a large fee Read our full review

Run your own business?

We recommend Capital on Tap for limited companies. You earn 1 Avios per £1 which is impressive for a Visa card, and the standard card is FREE. Capital on Tap cards also have no FX fees.

Capital on Tap Visa

NO annual fee, NO FX fees and points worth 1 Avios per £1 Read our full review

Capital on Tap Pro Visa

10,500 points (=10,500 Avios) plus good benefits Read our full review

There is also a British Airways American Express card for small businesses:

British Airways American Express Accelerating Business

30,000 Avios sign-up bonus – plus annual bonuses of up to 30,000 Avios Read our full review

There are also generous bonuses on the two American Express Business cards, with the points converting at 1:1 into Avios. These cards are open to sole traders as well as limited companies.

American Express Business Platinum

50,000 points when you sign-up and an annual £200 Amex Travel credit Read our full review

American Express Business Gold

20,000 points sign-up bonus and FREE for a year Read our full review

Click here to read our detailed summary of all UK credit cards which earn Avios. This includes both personal and small business cards.

Comments (130)

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  • JPK says:

    It would make very good sense for BA and Amex to hire Rob and listen to his advice. He is someone who really understands the issues from both the business side and the customer. The product would be much better and successful.

    • RC says:

      Hahahaha.
      BA has a track record of never listening to any advice (or customers) it doesn’t want to hear (which means it only hears what is congruent with its own distorted view of the world.)
      What other airline would hire a ceo who didn’t understand unions (Cruz), customers (Ayling), premium (Edington); or investor relations at IAG who turned out to be a criminal (Barker), or back at BA, a customer service manager (Laming) who reportedly tries to avoid customers at GGL events.
      Sure there’s a TV satire format in there…

      • Lady London says:

        And yet, BA makes money ….

        • Paul says:

          Hard not to given the have strangle hold on Heathrow, extraordinary commercial agreements, no competitor in the FFP market and have both Amex and Barclaycard as well as nectar tied up.
          Given also they are based in what is arguably the most affluent corner of all of Europe with the advantages above. Difficult to see how even BA could not make money in the current market. But passengers are fickle. Airlines are first into recessions and last out. Rob report of a 7 % decline in forward booking should be a clarion call

          • BA Flyer IHG Stayer says:

            Forward bookings are down for several reasons and the TP change, despite all the keening and wailing, will be low on that list of reasons.

            And it seems most of those unhappy with the changes are still flying BA but are just crediting to another OW programme!

        • RC says:

          Being a duopoly on most destinations and a domestic monopoly from Heathrow that’s not exactly a surprise.
          Even if it was run by muppets it would money. Some might argue it is. The Amex situation being a leading current example..another is the customer service manager who reportedly avoids customers at GGL events. The same one who changed jobs so much you have to wonder what he was running away from.

        • Mikeact says:

          And big money, probably not from the many moaners on here , many of course who threaten to ‘jump ship’…will they ?Of course not.

          • Rob says:

            Why would you fly BA if another airline from Heathrow is better or cheaper?

  • Stuart says:

    From a BA survey tonight:

    Thinking specifically about the loyalty currency, Avios, to what extent do you agree or disagree with the following statements?

    Please select a button for your answer, from 0 “Strongly disagree” to 10 “Strongly agree”.

    Tier points are more important to me than Avios

    Cue, “We listened to our customers who told us that earning Avois was more important. We are therefore graciously rewarding you with 1 Tier point per £10k spend.”

  • Dogmatick says:

    Who would move to an IB Amex card with a companion pass?
    They could as easily insist it is as usable on BA and the easier attainment of elite status would likely shift a lot of folk across to it

    Is there an IB UK based credit card available ?

  • RC says:

    The other option is, if you have or earn over £100k.
    Join HSBC premier and get World Elite. Earn points on that for Avios or other reward schemes as you pick from their many options.
    Pay £295 a year but get travel insurance free, priority pass was £18 restaurant credits at select airport locations , and 10-14pct off hotels booked with agoda. A few hotel nights and airport meals pays the fee. Dragon pass for a few bits of fast track too.
    No 241 but then you are a free agent: earn on your spend, pick the best airline for the trip (taxes etc seem to make 241 uneconomical anyway), and be a free agent on lounge access. Pick BA when it has (rarely) the best price/schedule, pick others when they feel better.
    It might save chasing tier points while benefiting from fast track, lounges etc without being captive to BA’s incompetence (this time with Amex).

    • Rob says:

      The travel insurance comes with HSBC Premier itself. No need to pay for the credit card for that.

      • Nico says:

        It also has the best avios earning rate assuming they continue the 25% transfer promotion periodically.

      • Mikeact says:

        Not if your ‘old’, which to them kicks in at 70. You really need to tell me that they couldn’t go up to 75/80 ? Ridiculous.

  • Nico says:

    Very Interesting article, it would make sense that it has not been announced yet as there is a money disagreement.
    Love the choice between avios and TPs, but sadly can’t see it happening.

  • Fella says:

    Given I’m never going to achieve status, its all about Avios for me, or rather as I am learning from a great platinum offer and a decent gold offer – Amex Membership Reward points.

    On Amex Gold I’ve just discovered that for every £5k you spend you get an extra 2,500 MRs.. So an earning rate nearly equivalent to BA Premium Amex of 1.5x, but – more transferable…

    You miss out on the 2-4-1… which has been great for us in the past. But now we have a daughter starting school, and it’s going to be incredibly difficult to use a 2-4-1. Our annual destinations are Japan and NZ – and so Amex Membership Rewards being spent on Qatar, Finnair, JAL or others probably provides us a lot more flexibility… sticking with BA for a 2-4-1 is already too challenging for Japan, and BA don’t fly to NZ. Not to mention travelling with three and using a 2-4-1 has cost me far too much time on the phone to BA!

    The card fee is also cheaper, and you get a few different benefits… a few lounge passes for example.

    I think we will earn the voucher and cancel the BA Amex rather than the gold card as I was originally planning….

  • Tom says:

    Rob,
    “With HMRC now accepting Amex if you use an intermediary (article to follow, including a HfP sign-up offer)”
    When is this article coming? Looks interesting.
    Thanks

  • Richard Emery says:

    BA website doesn’t show tier points reward with BA Amex card as of today!!! Has it been withdrawn??

    • Rob says:

      Sure you’ve not diverted to a non-UK non-US version of ba.com?

      • Richard Emery says:

        I did it through the BA app…..I’m sure I saw it a few days ago (again using the BA app to navigate to the BA website)

        • Richard Emery says:

          Oops. Sorry just checked again and it’s now showing up again.

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