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  • AIAER 1 post

    Something I still don’t understand and which is my biggest fear is that I’ll be losing all the tier points I have collected already. So my renewal is in November and I was told that my counting period will now be April 2024 to March 2025 (instead of November 2023 to October 2024). So all the tier points I had between November 2023 and end of March 2024 will just not be counted towards my new year, meaning I lose 750 tier points and have to start from scratch again by April 2024. I don’t think BA have taken any of that into consideration!

    You’ve not understood the new system.

    Your current collection year ending on 8th November 2024 runs as normal.

    But any TPs earned from 1st April 24 will also count to the new 1st Apr 2024 – 31st March 2025 collection year

    Yes, but the point is (I also have a Nov 8th year end) whereas in the past if you had accrued enough points to retain silver already then it would carry over to Dec 31st 2025. Under this new system it would only carry over to April 2025. I couldn’t care less about the counting of tier points from April 1st as I have already accrued enough to retain silver upon renewal on Nov 8th 2024. On the face of it I appear to have lost 8 months of silver status compared to the previous method.

    So, I’m in an interesting position. TP collection year ends 8th June 2024. Currently bronze, building status back post-Covid, about to earn another 200 points in early March, taking me to 570. So, I’ll hit 600 at some point in April or May 2024, and will quite likely generate another 200-400 TPs before the “old” June reset date as I’ve got a couple of long-haul trips planned, which presumably will then carry over into the new April 2024 – March 2025 year.

    But… because I’ll “gain status during the transition period” I’ll be silver not until March 2025, but March 2026, effectively a whole extra year. For once, one of these changes has actually been fortuitous for me! So, once qualified, if I can’t get to gold – which is unlikely for me by March 31st 2025 – what’s the point in collecting any TPs at all over the next year if I’ve got silver status until spring 2026? I might as well back-end as much of my planned travel as possible into the post March 2025 period. Is that right?

    Skywalker 755 posts

    This comment is from @Rhys on what is currently page 16 of the comments section:

    “The assumptions in this article are incorrect. I’ve been on the phone to BA all morning and have *finally* got, I think, the confirmed way it will work.

    It was poorly communicated, the media weren’t briefed (so we couldn’t ask the BA loyalty team anything in advance, which would have let us flag some of the more confusing elements) etc.

    Updated article to follow!”

    ThriceForgiven 64 posts

    Yet another basic “timing of flights” question, as my Tier Points have just reset on 8th of Jan 2024, with the transition period ending 22 of Feb’24 (down to 0 TP).

    My TP collection year ends 8 January 2025, and player 2’s is June 2025, and I want to maximise the amount of time with status. Should we try to hit Silver:
    a) After Feb’24 but before April 2024?
    b) AFTER April 2024?
    c) It doesn’t matter as long as it’s before January (me) /June (player 2) 2025

    For (a), (b) & (c), is my understanding correct that I’ll have status until April 2026?

    BA Flyer IHG Stayer 2,250 posts

    I strongly suggest people read the new article just published. it makes things clearer

    https://www.headforpoints.com/2024/02/06/british-airways-tier-point-collection-year-changes-affect-you/

    mellyj 1 post

    I have read all the articles, the BA examples and dozens of comments. I am still totally confused about my particular circumstance. My collection year ends in June. I am currently Bronze with enough tier points to hit Silver but I only have 3 qualifying flights. I plan to rectify this with a flight at the end of March which means I will become Silver at that point. As I understand it, under this new system my Silver status will then expire in July 2025. All good and no change from how things work now. However…in the example for my June end of year, BA says that “Any Tier status you receive during the transition period will expire on 30 April 2026”. So am I correct in thinking that I can move that qualifying flight to a few days later in April (the start of the transition period) and then my Silver status would be extended by another 9 months?

    mgmgmgmg 21 posts

    As a rather senior person, sorry, this is all rather confusing. Could any kind soul help me out, and as I don’t understand the soft landing stuff.

    I thought I would have 3.years of status, gold, silver and bronze but now I dont have a clue. I need large scotch, or two.

    In short:

    My collection ends 8 March and my card expiry is end of April.

    I will become gold, for the first time, at the end of Feb.

    Many thank everybody!

    supermac 45 posts

    My Gold is due to end in September and now Silver to March so I lose six months. I fly to Sydney First Class at least twice a year. I was about to book Sydney First Class London, Dublin, Dubai, Singapore Sydney for November which would neatly get me to Gold. I found a bargain (for BA) cash fare for £9k. However that only gets me Gold to March 2025 instead of November 2025.

    I have never paid more than £6k with the Lufthansa group First Class to Sydney so where I could justify the BA price on their old year ends on the new nones I can’t.

    So sorry BA this time you lose out. I get to fly a superior product ( First Class terminal, often driven to and from the plane while in transit, Singapore Suites on the last leg and the promise of an re design to their First Class product soon).

    My last two flights to Sydney via the Turkish Miles programme got me Gold status for two years plus three Hold status membership to give away to family and friends.

    NorthernLass 8,248 posts

    Now you’re the kind of customer I’m really surprised BA wants to alienate! Your F to Sydney probably equates to our total travel spend in a year.

    SJ 49 posts

    Supermac, won’t you be earning any tier points between April 2024 and the end of your tier point year (presumably 8th of August)?

    These, added to what you would earn for your Sydney trip would count towards your parallel April 24-March 25 year and from the amount of travelling you report should be enough to maintain good until March 26.

    memesweeper 1,296 posts

    Have BA ever published “soft landing” as a benefit of status? I’ve never seen a mention of it on the website. Assuming it is not an advertised benefit, reducing or removing it seems reasonable (albeit a shock to those that might have assumed it would last for three years and booked or strategically timed a gold run on the basis of that).

    Richie 1,035 posts

    They could make soft landing from gold to silver less soft i.e. if you have landed to silver from gold and then don’t achieve 300 TPs before first October there’s a drop from silver to bronze.

    supermac 45 posts

    Supermac, won’t you be earning any tier points between April 2024 and the end of your tier point year (presumably 8th of August)?

    These, added to what you would earn for your Sydney trip would count towards your parallel April 24-March 25 year and from the amount of travelling you report should be enough to maintain good until March 26.

    No I don’t rend to travel in those months.

    To be fair BA should extend your grace period to the months that you lose, some would only gain what it is now and others 6 months plus.

    UrsaMinor 11 posts

    Will the following Tier Points will be included in the roll over for the 1st April 2024 to July 8th 2024 collection period in anticipation of the new system for BAEC system (account year end is 8th July).

    Transaction date 23rd March
    Posted date 3rd April
    Manual request for AA 60 points for an MIA-MCO segment (separate booking)

    Just trying to work out how many Tier Points I will have in total for start of new collection year on 9th July.

    BA Flyer IHG Stayer 2,250 posts

    No.

    What matters is the flight date not the posting date.

    Is that 60 a typo as the TP calculator shows MIA-MCO as a max of 40 TPs.

    UrsaMinor 11 posts

    No.

    What matters is the flight date not the posting date.

    Is that 60 a typo as the TP calculator shows MIA-MCO as a max of 40 TPs.

    No it isn’t a typo it does show 60 TP’s which I thought odd. I expected it to be the flight date but just wanted to make sure – thanks for the answer.

    Tracey 218 posts

    My tier point year ended 8 May. I flew a return at 20 points each way 29 March outbound and 6 April return as a BA holiday, with double tier points awarded 20 April. I expected 20 points from the flight carried forward plus either another 20 or if I was lucky 40, whereas all I have got is the 20 points from the actual return flight with no double up points carried forward.

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