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Advanced Avios: 60,000 Amex points with the Amex International $/€ Card

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A few people have emailed me about this offer in the last month or so.  I have not written about it before because this is a very complex process which should not be entered into lightly, but as it does seem to be coming onto the radar of more and more people I have decided to cover it. 

Do not apply for this card unless you are 100% sure what you are doing and what it entails.

American Express issues two cards for UK residents (and indeed other EEA residents, but the cards are run from Brighton) who would prefer to bank in US$ or Euros.

These cards are known as International Currency Cards with the individual cards known as the International Dollar Card (IDC) and International Euro Card (IEC)

They are available in Green, Gold and Platinum versions

There is no sign-up bonus for the Gold or Green card.  However, the Platinum card currently offers a sign-up bonus of 60,000 Membership Rewards points.   Full details can be found here.

Instead of telling you why you should apply for this card, let me tell you why you should NOT:

60,000 Membership Rewards points does NOT get you 60,000 Avios.  The International Currency Cards have their own separate Membership Rewards programme.  The conversion rate to Avios is 3:2 so your 60,000 point bonus is only worth 40,000 Avios or Virgin miles.

American Express will insist on a written reference from your bank before it will give you a card.  If you have been an Amex client for a decade or so it appears, anecdotally, that they do not take up the reference.  They do for everyone else.

You will need to provide CERTIFIED copies of your passport and utility bills

The application process takes 2-3 months to complete based on reports, primarily due to the bank references

You must pay your card bill in $ or €.  This can only be done by making a foreign currency bank transfer to an overseas bank account.  You cannot pay your bill by direct debit or by a £ bank transfer.

You must have a personal income of €65,000 / $65,000 or equivalent

There is an annual fee of €550 / $550

All sounds less attractive now, doesn’t it?  (Note that I have have a Green $ card, so I know what I’m talking about.)

There are some positive reasons to get one:

If you spend a lot of money in $ or € you will avoid the FX fee on using a £ credit card

Some Membership Rewards partners transfer 1:1 out of the IDC / IEC scheme – see this HfP article from last year.  There are also partners such as Malaysia Airlines and Jumeirah hotels which are not in the UK MR scheme.

You can transfer your UK Membership Rewards balance to your new IDC or IEC Membership Rewards account.  Your balance will be increased by the current exchange rate, so your balance is boosted by 65%-70% if you have an IDC account.  Of course, this is almost entirely offset by the poorer transfer rates.

You get free travel insurance with the card which is better than the UK Platinum Card coverage (the maximum age limit is 80 years, for example)

You get the same Priority Pass, Starwood, Club Carlson and Accor status benefits as you would get with the UK Platinum Card

Despite the Amex disclaimer to the contrary, as the Membership Rewards scheme for IDC and IEC cards is totally separate to the UK scheme, you should still receive the bonus even if you already hold a UK Gold or Platinum card

I hope this makes the pros and cons of the card a lot clearer for anyone who sees any Amex advertising for the product.  Whilst the sign-up bonus may initially seem very attractive, I genuinely do not think that it is worth getting the card unless you are very financially sophisticated as it may end up being more trouble than it is worth.

Want to earn more points from credit cards? – August 2021 update

If you are looking to apply for a new credit or charge card, here are our August 2021 recommendations based on the current sign-up bonus

You can see our full directory of all UK cards which earn airline or hotel points here. Here are the other top current deals:

British Airways American Express card

British Airways American Express

5,000 Avios for signing up, no annual fee and a companion voucher for spending £20,000 Read our full review

BA Premium Plus American Express card BAPP

British Airways American Express Premium Plus

25,000 Avios and the UK’s most valuable credit card perk – the 2-4-1 companion voucher Read our full review

Nectar American Express

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold

Your best beginner’s card – 20,000 points, FREE for a year & two airport lounge passes Read our full review

American Express Platinum card Amex

The Platinum Card from American Express

30,000 points and an unbeatable set of travel benefits – for a fee Read our full review

Virgin Rewards Plus credit card

Virgin Atlantic Reward+ Mastercard

15,000 points bonus and the most generous non-Amex for day to day spending Read our full review

Earning miles and points from small business cards

If you are a sole trader or run a small company, you may also want to check out these offers.

American Express Business Gold

20,000 points sign-up bonus and free for a year Read our full review

Amex Platinum Business American Express

American Express Business Platinum

40,000 points sign-up bonus and a long list of travel benefits Read our full review

British Airways Accelerating Business American Express card

British Airways Accelerating Business American Express

Earn both Avios and BA On Business points with your business spending Read our full review

Capital On Tap Business Rewards Visa

The most generous Avios Visa or Mastercard for a limited company Read our full review

For a non-American Express option, we also recommend the Barclaycard Select Cashback card for sole traders and small businesses. It is FREE and you receive 1% cashback on your spending:

Barclaycard Select Cashback Credit Card

1% cashback and no annual fee Read our full review

Comments (61)

  • Dave B says:

    Am I correct in saying that 1 amex Reward for each $ spent which for $1670 gets 1670 points , which offsets them being less valuable ?
    and travel insurance for your family members over 80 ( if you get them a card)?

    • Rob says:

      Yes but only if you are spending in $ – if you are spending in £ you will get a 3% currency surcharge on every transaction!

  • squills says:

    woo baby!

  • Waribai says:

    Sorry…so can I get my child’s school teacher to certify a copy?

    • Rob says:

      Amex does not accept teachers – there is a PDF document of accepted professions if you click on the link under ‘Eligibility’.

  • Waribai says:

    Ok, thanks!

  • Mycity says:

    Hi, sorry I thought I saw someone say you could pay with chq is this correct? I am based in the Uk but have a US bank account just a thought


    • Richard Brown says:

      My City – you can pay with direct debit from a USD bank account or a USD electronic transfer. Both options better than a cheque!

  • mj10 says:

    Slightly OT but does anyone know of an Avios earning card that has 0% fees when using abroad? (Not just $ or euro)

    Going on a 9 month RTW trip soon spending a lot of money so it would be good to pick up some points without the 2.99% fee on each transaction using my Plat card.

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