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My chat with the head of Hilton Honors about their radical changes

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Hilton Honors will make a major announcement today about changes to the programme which will take effect this Spring, starting later this month.

I spoke with the head of Hilton Honors last night and we talked through the changes for half an hour.  The devil is in the detail, of course, but on the face of it – at least in the short term – it seems positive.

(First change – the second ‘H’ has gone from what was Hilton HHonors!)

This is the big change – Hilton is introducing a radical version of ‘points and money’ which is unlike anything else we’ve seen.

There are two elements to this and it is easier to explain if I look at them separately.

Hilton_Honors new logo

Firstly, for every standard room redemption, you will be able to pick a combination of cash and points.  This will be driven by the points value and the Hilton HHonors member cash rate.

Let’s assume that a particular hotel is selling for 50,000 points or £200.  You will be able to pick any combination of the two as long as you use at least 5,000 points.  You can pay 50,000 points or £200 or 25,000 points + £100 or 5,000 points + £180 etc.

The key reason for doing this is to allow members with small points balances to get some value from their points.  A key secondary reason, I think, is to drive more direct bookings rather than via Expedia etc, since obviously you can’t use this facility via a third party.  This may turn out to be smart – it is similar to what BA has done with ‘part pay with Avios’.

Here is the second change.

The maximum points price for a room will be no higher than it is today.  However, off peak points prices will fall sharply.  This effectively puts a floor under the value you will get for a Hilton point.

You will remember in our review of the Gran Hotel Montesol yesterday that it was selling for 95,000 points or €600 in August but 95,000 points or €270 in May.  Under the new system, it will remain 95,000 points in August but the May price will fall to, I imagine, something around 50,000 points.  You will then be able to pick your preferred combination of 50,000 points, €270 or something inbetween.

So far, so good.  I honestly cannot see any downside in the short term.

The risk is in the long term.  Hilton is scrapping redemption categories entirely.  Whilst Gran Hotel Montesol, picture below, will have a maximum price of 95,000 points this year, there is no reason why it cannot quietly drift out to 120,000 or 150,000 points next year.  Without any category caps to act as a constraint, it could easily happen and before you know it you have a purely revenue based redemption system on your hands.

I doubt Hilton would do this, because I think it understands the value of offering ‘outsized’ redemptions at various hotels (such as Montesol in August), but the risk is there.

There are other changes coming too:

free points pooling amongst friends and family

the option for selected Diamond members to pause their membership for a year for any reason, possibly during a period of redundancy, changed travel patterns, maternity leave etc

for US members, the option to redeem points for merchandise from amazon.com

These changes are further down the line.  The move to ‘points and money’ redemptions will take place first, in late February.

For probably the first time ever following a scheme change, I am not encouraging members to burn their points quickly.

The only thing that gets worse is that the current ‘points and money’ redemptions – which were not often available – are being scrapped and replaced with the new system.  If you were looking at a ‘points and money’ reward then I would make sure you book that over the next 3 weeks or so.

The rest of us can wait to see how the new model unfolds.  An off-peak example I was shown gave a value per point of 0.5p – if that is really where it ends up, and remembering that you would be able to get that value on any standard room on any night – then the scheme will be much improved.

I will write more on this in the coming days when I have seen the official details.


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Comments (163)

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  • Alex W says:

    A quick scan of the comments and I’m surprised nobody has mentioned this… (Sorry if it has been)…

    Under this new model I highly suspect that “5 nights for the points of 4” will be going. I can’t see how it would work and if so it counts as a 20% devaluation in my view. I have been saving up my points for such a deal.

  • Ian says:

    Anyone know if I convert tesco vouchers to BA – will they take the oldest vouchers first?

    Have some £96 expiring end of February.

    Thanks

    • Genghis says:

      You select the vouchers as payment for your conversion – so just choose the oldest ones.

    • Stuart says:

      If you have large vouchers expirying you can choose to convert the minimum of £2.50 and the ‘change’ will be added as a new voucher to your account on the next statement.

      Their have been reports on FT of people be caught for ‘abusing’ the system though. Not sure how many conversions would constitute abuse. I’ve done it 3 times where i had £50 vouchers expiring

  • mark2 says:

    surely you select which vouchers to spend?

    • Ian says:

      I would have thought that – but it goes to a page with a red checkout button.

      i am not sure if that simply processes the transaction or allows me to select the vouchers.

      On the list of vouchers the only option is to print them

      A bit confused!

      • FrequentDriver says:

        I have literally just done this – as long as you are logged in, checkout page shows a list of your vouchers and you tick the ones you want to use – easy peasy 🙂

        • Ian says:

          Thanks!

          Wasn’t sure if the checkout button just processed it and I had missed a page to select.

          • Alex W says:

            PayPal can be sneaky with this. I hit “checkout”, expecting to choose my most lucrative credit card, only to be met with “success we’ve taken the money out of your bank account”. I was fuming! I tried to submit a complaint but got nowhere.

          • Alan says:

            Yes, you’ve got to watch like a hawk – they always default to linked bank a/c rather than credit card. Also you need to empty out PayPal balance first if you have any and want to just put it all on a card.

  • Pangolin says:

    I for one am far less optimistic than the bloggers are about this.

    It’s a switch to dynamic pricing and a revenue based model. Sooner or later the redemption caps will be removed and then the sky’s the limit. For off peak redemptions the cap is already removed so expect these to be more expensive for points rather than cheaper, as the commentaries suggest.

    The chance to find great value in C+P is also gone – now you have an Accor type system where points simply exchange into cash at a set rate.

    The main value for a lot of people in Hilton was the ability to combine valuable points promotions with good value redemptions at lower category hotels, especially if C+P was available. Now that’s gone.

  • mark2 says:

    The page to transfer points to someone else is up now (the whole Honors been re-designed).
    There is a transfer limit of 200,000 points per calendar year so we are unlikely to see them on eBay.

    • Lawro says:

      I think that’s actually the old maximum transfer per year.
      OMAAT was quoting 500k per year and receive a max of 2M

    • zark says:

      I think you are confusing things with what already exists for some time = 5,000 points transfer to somebody else for 12.5$ etc

  • Anon says:

    Hilton Glasgow & Aviemore looking like potential bargains during quiet periods… 🙂

  • rams1981 says:

    OT just had to cancel one of my 2 for 1 bookings. Wife had cancelled the BA card which earned the voucher but it still landed back in her account.

    They charged £50 per passenger to cancel. £35 cancellation fee + £15 operational fee or something like that. Annoying but needs must.

    • Lawro says:

      Thanks for data point re cancelled BAPP and 2-4-1. The £15 fee will be the one for anything done over the phone.

  • rams1981 says:

    Reminds me anyone looking for return tickets to Buenos airies in mid November 2017 in Club – they should be available now

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