Bits: the new loo on the BA A321, BA to launch ‘hand baggage only’ on Asia & Middle East, CW from Gatwick

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News in brief:

The new loo on the new BA A321 aircraft

If you are flying on British Airways today, Friday 9th, check to see if you are on any of these routes.  This is where G-MEDN, the first ‘densified’ A321, is heading:

LHR-MAN BA1386 0755
MAN-LHR BA1389 0955
LHR-ABZ BA1308 1210
ABZ-LHR BA1309 1440
LHR-MAN BA1398 1730
MAN-LHR BA1405 1925

A reader was on the Newcastle flight yesterday and generously popped to the loo on behalf of HFP readers and delivered this.  Tight is the word.  I don’t think much of the sink either and I’m not convinced purple ‘mood lighting’ adds much to the, erm, experience.  That said, the reader who took the picture said that she was happy with it, possibly because it was brand new.

BA A321 toilet

Hand Baggage Only to launch on some Asian and Middle East routes in April

We mentioned earlier in the week that British Airways, Iberia, Finnair and American Airlines will be launching ‘hand baggage only’ fares to North America from April.

According to this travel trade document (PDF), ‘Basic’ fares will also be launched by both BA and Iberia on selected Asian and Middle Eastern routes during April.

This table – click to enlarge – shows the different BA long-haul fare classes going forward and their restrictions:

Virgin Atlantic has also published its hand-baggage only plans. More on this over the weekend.

Some Club World pictures of the ‘densified’ Gatwick Boeing 777

We have already discussed the new 10-abreast World Traveller cabin on the refurbished Gatwick Boeing 777 fleet this week.

However, it doesn’t seem all bad newsThis Flyertalk thread has some pictures from Club World from one of the first flights this week.  It does look like there have been some small but subtle improvements.  The overall ambience, with the mood lighting, looks close to what the Boeing 787 fleet offers.

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  1. Andrew says:

    It looks like it would be more convenient for most taller blokes to pee in the sink.

    • you don’t think they do already?

      (reminder – don’t forget to wash your hands)

  2. Good to see that BA really followed through on their plans to simplify ticketing and reduce the number of ticket types sold.

    If they don’t want people to fly on their planes I do think it would be better if they just came out and said so, rather than this silly policy of daring passengers to see if they can try to get through a flight in economy without gouging our their own eyeballs in frustration.

  3. Doug M says:

    I hate sinks you can’t properly wash your hands in. That’ll look like a wet room after 2 or 3 people have used it.

  4. I don’t know why they didn’t just put a urinal (or two) in as the second toilet. I’ve seen this on trains in Japan and they take up hardly any space.

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  6. I’m going to have to put you in touch with Susie Dent from Countdown. “Densified is a horrible mutation of the English language. It is a limaceous like mind that creates these abominations ????

  7. Anthony Dunn says:

    Err, pardon the pun, but since sn’t this thread “a bit anal…”! Apologies if anyone else has made such an observation. And I’m not trying to be comical.

  8. OT – Tesco seem to have stopped doing the “your views” surveys, just tried to log on for this month and got a message saying they are no longer accepting them.

  9. Amanda B says:

    My sister is short haul crew on 320 & 321’s. She says you have to enter to WC in the direction that you wish to use the facility. You cannot turn round. Also the crew seat is immediately in front of the toilet door. In an emergency the crew will ‘ Sit down and strap in’ if someone is in the toilet they will not be able to get out. I did suggest to her that in an emergency the toilet might be the best place to be …..

  10. Still nothing on Flightradar24 about this aircraft tomorrow. So it’s looking unlikely I can get to try it out, but if I do I’ll take some pics and write a review,

    • Look at Business Traveller. BA has given them an interview to complain that us, Flyertalk, PPrune etc have been spreading false info about the new seating which, on G-MEDN at least, is NOT super-thin. All very odd.

      • TGLoyalty says:

        I’ll be honest the bold “removed” is very misleading.

        As another reader pointed out they’ve been moved nothing more. Tbh I’m not sure any a3xx plane toilet is a good place to be for anyone over 6ft like myself weather it’s been shrunk or not

      • I’m not sure what to think now which makes me more curious to want to try them for myself. If they’re fitting the same amount of seats as the NEOs on order but don’t need the thinner seats why have the new aircraft been ordered with inferior (IMO but BA must agree if they’re keeping the current ones for CE) seats? Has the pitch been reduced on the rows towards the rear anyway and is the recline disabled on the seats with the lower pitch?

        If it’s somehow possible they can get the extra seats in just by moving the toilets while retaining current pitch then it might be acceptable. The USB ports will come in useful, but they really do need to speed up the introduction of WiFi.

        Another question remain about toilets. The G-MED (ex-bmi) A321 aircraft only ever had one toilet in the front section, the BA ones currently have two. Will the BA ones be ‘enhanced’ to have just one in the front?

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