Bits: Lloyds Avios cards dead?, when Lee won our Christmas Party raffle, Tesco / LEGO Star Wars Avios deal

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News in brief:

Lloyds Avios Rewards credit cards now fully closed to new applicants?

The Lloyds Avios Rewards credit cards were closed to new online applications on 1st March as we wrote here.

At the time, Lloyds told us that you could continue to apply via telephone or in a branch for a limited period.

That period appears to be over.  A reader tried to apply this week by telephone and in a branch and was rebuffed on both occasions.  Apparently it no longer even appears as an option on the branch IT system.

On the upside, as Lloyds made some in-branch applicants watch two videos on ‘how to use a credit card sensibly’ before they would process the application, this may be for the best ……!

I am told, however, that we may not have seen the back of these cards for good.  How Lloyds expects to compete with a £24 Mastercard earning 0.25 Avios per £1 when Virgin Atlantic now offers a free Mastercard earning 0.75 Flying Club miles per £1 is a different question.

When Lee won our Christmas Party raffle ….

If you were at our Christmas Party in December, you will remember that the star raffle prize was a business class ticket to any destination of your choice on Qatar Airways who generously sponsored the event.

The winner was Lee – see photo below.  Lee is the one who hasn’t got his arm around the (then) UK marketing head 🙂

He just dropped us a note to tell us about his prize flight:

“I thought I would send you both an email to say I took the Qatar Airways flights that I won at the HfP Christmas party to Tokyo and arrived back last week. Qatar Airways exceeded my expectations and the whole trip was excellent.

I exchanged a few emails with Qatar Airways to arrange the flights and gave a selection of dates that suited me in the hope they could arrange one of the flight combinations. I also asked them if it was possible to get on the A380 and the 777 Qsuite so I could experience all of the best cabins and to my surprise they managed to arrange exactly that for me! A week before I went they changed the 777 Qsuite flight for DOH-LHR to an A350-900.  This was a brand new A350-900 with Qsuite which was delivered a week before I flew on it!

The A380 daytime flight (10:50) from LHR-DOH was excellent; the seat was really spacious and very comfortable, Bric’s amenity kit, Lanson champagne, and crew that couldn’t be more helpful. The whole flight had just over 90 people on-board; 12 in business, 0 in first, 69 in economy. The business class cabin had almost 1:1 crew to passengers! I had some really good food and wine during the flight, and also visited the bar and stood chatting to the crew who were running the bar for the flight whilst sampling a couple more drinks and snacks.

I had a 6.5 hour connection in Doha on my way out, but that was fine as I got to experience the amazing lounge, showers, restaurant, and bar before taking the ~12 hour late overnight flight to NRT. There was plenty of food available in the restaurant and the staff were pleased to help wherever they could. It was also refreshing to get a shower before the next long flight to Tokyo.

The 777 to Tokyo was a 2x2x2 business class cabin and had loads of room at each seat. I didn’t have anyone next to me so I had even more room and nobody to disturb when moving from the window seat. Although it wasn’t quite as comfortable as the A380 I managed to sleep well for the first half of the flight which was great for an evening landing in Tokyo and fighting off the jet lag. Again, the crew, the food, the Giorgio Armani amenity kits, The White Company sleep suit, and lie flat bed, all very good! The flight was about 45 minutes late taking off due to a technical fault but this was quickly resolved and they kept us updated throughout. As it was a 2:20am flight, I was glad to finally sleep!

Coming back from NRT to DOH, I visited the JAL lounge and had some excellent Japanese food before the next overnight flight (22:20) on the same 777 with a 2x2x2 cabin. I had a middle aisle seat on this flight which was just as comfortable and as much room as the DOH-NRT flight. The service may have been slightly slower than outbound but it was completely full in comparison and an evening service to contend with, but still all the crew were very attentive throughout.

I had shorter connection on the way home in Doha of 3 hours which meant I could have another quick shower and get ready for the last flight in Qsuite, right at the front in 1K! I didn’t know at the time that it was a brand new plane but I did notice a number of times how it had that ‘new car/plane’ smell! The crew showed me to my seat and explained where and what everything was and had the champagne and hot towels ready to go. My first thought was “this is amazing, it’s an actual suite with a closing door!”.

As it was a daytime flight (06:35) back to LHR I didn’t have any reason to sleep which was good because I could experience the Qsuite, but not so good because I didn’t get to see how well I slept! Just like the other 3 flights, the crew were excellent, the food was fantastic, more Bric’s amenity kits, and an ultra-comfortable seat (which probably had less than a dozen people in it) with a large and really responsive touch screen entertainment system. The crew popped by every so often to see if I wanted anything and were always available otherwise. I didn’t see much of the other suites, but the double and quad suites look fantastic for travelling with other people. 

We landed back in Heathrow on time and the staff waved us goodbye, and I realised how much I wanted to fly with Qatar Airways again! This is the first time I’ve flown with Qatar Airways after having many flights with BA and continued loyalty with them. Other than a few minor things with BA they’ve always been good and I’ve always been loyal. However, Qatar Airways are on a whole new level with their service and business class cabins.

To sum it up; Qsuite, the crew, the food and wine/champagne, the seating and cabin, the A380 bar, the whole A350-900, Giorgio Armani, Bric’s, and The White Company, the lounges and staff – all fantastic.”

Qatar Airways UK marketing team

New Tesco Direct / LEGO Star Wars offer

Tesco Direct has brought back its Tesco Clubcard bonus deal with LEGO Star Wars which gives you a chance to pick up Avios or Virgin Flying Club miles along with the toys.

Until 7th May you will get:

  • 500 extra Clubcard points (1200 Avios, 1250 Virgin miles) when you spend £30+
  • 1,000 extra Cubcard points (2400 Avios, 2500 Virgin miles) when you spend £60

Full details in this Shopper Points article.

(Want to earn more miles and points from credit cards?  Click here to visit our dedicated airline and hotel travel credit cards page or use the ‘Credit Cards Update’ link in the menu bar at the top of the page.)

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Comments

  1. Kevin says:

    Nice trip report. Glad you enjoyed the prize.

    I did the a380 DOH to CDG last month (business was full) and liked the bar a lot. The snacks in glasses (things like salmon and soba noodles or cheesecake) were very good.

  2. Andrew says:

    I thought it was just me this morning . I typed my message then clicked submit , but nothing posted.
    Also, when I post Rob, I receive an error message to say I am making multiple postings and need to slow down !

  3. Hugh says:

    OT: I assume that there is no bonus running at the moment for adding a supplementary card holder to a BAPP card?

    • RichS says:

      I got the bonus this week for adding my wife, I waited until targeted link appeared in the app. I screen shot it in case the avios didn’t appear, although seems no need as points already credited (card not yet arrived).

  4. mark2 says:

    I got 3,000 for adding my wife in the last few weeks. Not everything is advertised.

    • Hugh says:

      Interesting! Any idea how long you had to wait for the offer to appear? My newly churned card arrived this morning.

      It will be a bit harder to hit the spend target with just one card but it would also be good to get the bonus!

      • mark2 says:

        As I said ‘Not everything is advertised’. No offer appeared; I left it a week or so and just applied.

  5. May someone suggest how many points require for a night @ Radisson Blu Sobieski Hotel Warsaw

    Link to the source will be appreciated.

    Thanks

  6. the_real_a says:

    The voucher is such an underrated benefit. I save circa 78k avios flying to Asia every year. The only pain point is that a return has to be booked, it would be much better if it were two one way vouchers to mix and match with availability.

  7. Bach says:

    OT – I can’t add my SPG account on my Amex account to move MR points. I think I read here that there is a little trick? Adding zeros? Or am I mixing with something else?

  8. barnaby100 says:

    OT- don’t seem to be able to comment on old threads anymore. I am sampling the new LBA lounge. The White Rose- certainly a step backwards. Cold, like being in a corridor- well it is in a corridor with no walls, clinical, white, no privacy. Only a couple of sockets in the whole room. Manned bar but no-one is manning it. Dodgy buffet and some slop dish (must have BA caterers) . Now the food was always ropey but it was warn and cosy before and you could help yourself- cant even get a coke here. It is like being in an open plan office. Certainly not worth paying to access. The other guests have now given up and are considering raiding the bar. If it is meant to be a business lounge it needs to have business facilities-plugs would be a start. Do the people who design these places ever travel?

  9. Calvin Chen says:

    Dear Lee, thanks for sharing the flights experience with Qatar to Tokyo.
    My partner and I also had the same flight last year November with Qatar to Tokyo in Business class but unfortunately not with the QSuites. We flew from AMS-DOH-NRT on the way out and then HND-DOH-LHR and with A380 on the way home. The services provided from ground staff till cabin crew are all the best i ever experience. The outbound from DOH-NRT in 2-2-2 configuration not really comfortable as you have mentioned but the return on A350-900 from HND is absolutely fantastic. Looking forward for my next flight with them to Kuala Lumpur in August.

    • Calvin, I agree with the 2x2x2, not quite as comfortable as the others. I guess as they are the original business class cabins and slightly older planes that’s to be expected. It could also be the A380 and A350 are so very good, it makes the 777’s appear not as good! Hopefully you’ll get Qsuite next time, I’m definitely looking out for it again. It’s nice to hear the service is consistently really good too, QR staff and crew are excellent.

  10. Anna says:

    Hi Russell, thank you so much for trying to reply! Tom pointed me in the direction of the right page and I’ve found it now!

  11. Matt B says:

    In the last 8 weeks or so I have taken the white card, the gold charge card, then the gold companion credit card, and today from a referral just received a gold credit card – basically I hold 1 charge card and 3 credits cards now, so not sure what their rules are!

    • JamesB says:

      I called them and they said there is no rule on 2 card limit. I will give it a rest for a couple of months and try again. My credit rating is fine and I am sure credit limits and use are fine so I think it is down to amex internal issues.

      • I churn and have had 3 credits cards plus charge cards with Amex at the same time a couple of times in the last few years. I lower the credit limits on existing Amex credit cards ahead of time before applying for #3 as I think the overall combined credit limit with Amex is likely important.

  12. ankomonkey says:

    OT, but card related: received a replacement Creation Marriott Mastercard today. The letter was correctly headed with “Marriott…”, but the accompanying literature all referred to the Creation IHG card. Creation at their best 😉

  13. Axel says:

    What did the rejection letter say as the reason?

    • JamesB says:

      Internal review and experian score. Experian was 933 at time of application.

      • Callum says:

        Did they say Experian score or your Experian credit record?

        The scores provided by Experian etc are generally meaningless (unlike in the US I believe where they’re actually used?) so it would be interesting if Amex is using them.

      • JamesB says:

        @Callum, just checked asain and it said “data we have obtained from an authorised credit reference agency(ies)”. Experian were later named as that agency.

      • Callum says:

        The means your Experian score meant nothing at all. They used the data on your Experian record to create their own. If you get it free it’s useful to track your general credit worthiness but don’t pay for it.

        I remember my Experian score was 999 at one point despite only qualifying for sub-prime credit!

      • JamesB says:

        Agreed, I think it is an amex internal issue…simply I have too many cards or too much unused credit for their liking. At the moment I only have the score via Barclays so I will get a free access to have a look at the full report to check nothing is amiss.

      • Genghis says:

        @JamesB You’re probably aware but you can access your full Experian data for free via MSE Credit Club

      • JamesB says:

        @Genghis, yes thanks, that was what I was thinking about or simply requesting a free cooy from experian.

      • Genghis says:

        Before the free access via MSE, I would pay the £2 or so on an annual basis for the statutory report just to check things over.

  14. Chirag Bakhai says:

    I applied for Lloyds card in branch on thursday and seemed to go through fine. Was told that phone applications are no longer possible but branch still ok

  15. Daniel Knight says:

    OT – mobile credit card readers. Cheapest is £19+vat upfront and 1.69% transaction fee. If a new BAPP was signed up and £10k put through to get the 241 am I correct with this maths…? 10000 x 1.69% is 169, plus the 23 for the card reader plus 195 Amex fee is total cost of £387. This would get 26000 sign up points, 15000 points for the £10k spend and 100000 points equivalent for the 241 equals 141000 points. Cost per point £387 / 141000 = 0.2475p. Possibly half that if the BAPP was killed in a month with a pro rate refund. Quarter penny per avios is good but is my maths?!

  16. Lloyds Avios Voucher says:

    Anyone knows what happens to the Lloyds Avios upgrade vouchers with Avios closing? I assume it will be converted to a BA voucher instead maybe? Ha no news however at all from Lloyds..

    • Anna says:

      It’s on the avios website, the voucher will go into your BA account but you’ll have to call avios.com to redeem it.

  17. OK. Will have a dig into Aqua (Rewards version).

  18. James says:

    For those of us still with the Lloyds Duo Avios cards, will we still be able to earn the upgrade vouchers going forwards or is the transition to BA only for existing vouchers and then it’s stopping ?

    • callum says:

      You can still earn going forwards until they say otherwise. They’ve not given a commitment to how long that would be.

  19. Alex W says:

    I was rejected for plat Companion a couple of months ago. Recently applied for SPG Amex, decision was deferred but eventually approved with about 1/3 the credit limit I had last time. Possibly because have moved house and got a car on finance in December. My credit report is very good though.

    • JamesB says:

      My best guess is that my available credit vastly outstrips my use. I think I will probably half it before trying again. Also, I have got Sainbury and Tesco cards that I rarely use so I will likely cancel those too despite them not being a problem before.

  20. Andy Morgan says:

    Are the Lloyds cards still the best (cheapest) for using abroad to still earn Avios miles?

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