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An intriguing hint about the new British Airways Club World business class seat

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As most Head for Points readers know, British Airways is launching a new Club World business class seat this year.

It will debut on the A350 fleet when they are delivered, with retrofitting commencing at the same time on the Boeing 777 fleet.  By Christmas there will be six aircraft with the new seat.  Oddly, they will not be used to fly on ‘flagship’ routes such as New York because there is no First Class on the A350.

My expectations for the seat are not high.  My money has been, at best, that we get the Iberia seat on their A350 fleet which I reviewed here.  BA has confirmed that the TV will be fixed to the back of the seat in front, which supports the Iberia thesis.  Everything we know about the way British Airways behaves leads to that.

British Airways BA 777X 777 9X

And yet …..

British Airways has launched a questionnaire via its Future Lab customer panel to shape the name of the new seat.

Let’s ignore, for a second, the fact that asking people to suggest names for something that they haven’t seen is not necessarily sensible.

Four concepts are presented:

Name it in a way that describes the product

Name it with a model number, like an iPhone (eg Club World XIX as it will launch in 2019)

Name it using a random word pulled out of the air (eg Club World Vector, Contrail, Ventral)

Name it using an evolutionary phrase (eg New Club World, New Generation Club World)

 Here are the examples for the first option:

This is very interesting.

We have to assume that whoever set this questionnaire has seen the new seat.  This means that ‘Club Suite’, ‘Club World Suite’ and ‘Club World Space’ are being seriously considered as names.

Now, there is chutzpah and there is chutzpah.  I doubt even the most confident marketing guru would call the new Iberia business class seat a ‘suite’.  The same goes for the American Airlines seat.

Yes, they are very impressive.  Yes, I like to fly them and I would be happy if British Airways introduced them, but they are not ‘suites’ in the sense the word is used now.

In 2019, a ‘suite’ on a plane, if you follow the definition used by Qatar Airways with their business class Qsuite:

Qsuite

….. has a door which opens and closes.

See also the new Emirates First Class Suite which – spoiler alert – I am flying on Thursday and am quite excited about:

Emirates First Class Suite Boeing 777

Whilst it seems hard to believe, there is a chance that British Airways is really planning to launch a Club World ‘suite’ with a door.  This is a phrase I never expected to write.


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Comments (173)

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  • Speedbird676 says:

    Etihad’s Business Studio and the Qatar Qsuite are based on the same basic seat design.

    I believe UK CAA regulations would prevent an enclosed suite design, so don’t expect any doors.

  • David says:

    Let’s not forget that BA has long described First as a “private, spacious suite” despite it being anything but. No doors there either…

    • Rob says:

      But those were the old days. These days a ‘suite’ means something else. After Qsuite any attempt to call a non-suite a suite would be laughed out of town.

      • Leo says:

        Yes…and your point is? This is BA after all….

      • Chuck says:

        I think you can call it an ‘open suite’ like the 787 First product and would be legit …

      • Chris L says:

        They refer to F as a ‘suite’ today, and quite prominently. I’m sure I read somewhere that new CW could be Qsuite but without the door.
        To be fair, the F on the 380 and 787 is pretty private.

        • Polly says:

          Yes, we noted how much more private it felt in F to HKG last Friday night….

  • Insider says:

    You will be impressed with the new seat, trust me. Don’t think IB seat, it’s not that.

  • Nigel the pensioner says:

    I thought BA referred to their current F seats as suites in many adverts……?

  • C77 says:

    My money has been on QSuite ‘lite’ for sometime now. I reckon no doors but a significant amount of privacy and personal space none the less. A BA Junior Suite perhaps? 🙂

  • Martin Seebach says:

    Seaty McSeatface. You’re welcome.

  • Peter says:

    Intriguingly the BA Future Lab topic has been taken down and links to it now just show an unauthorised access error. Maybe this wasn’t meant to be up there in the first place as it gave too much away?

    • Rob says:

      I had an interesting email from ‘an informed source’ this morning which suggests that my pooch is making a noise at the correct chunk of wood ….

      • @mkcol says:

        Love it!

      • Alex says:

        We’ve all received an email from Future Labs reminding us of our NDA obligations… I doubt we’ll get more sneak-peeks anymore sadly. I know you’re doing your job (and I think you’re doing it well by today’s journalistic standards, ie if you hadn’t broken the story, somebody else would have), maybe next time mention discreetly in “Bits” that there are interesting topics being discussed in Future Labs? I’m sure they would be happy to receive the extra attention, and you would still be pointing people towards the information.

        My 2p 🙂

        • Nick says:

          I agree with this – source discretion would of been appropriate here. Probably this will be the end of the future lab insights as BA have actively stated disappointment in the community

  • James says:

    There have been several posts (from unconfirmed sources) on FT saying it will be the Super Diamond seat, with a door added. I’d be pretty happy with that if it turned out to be true.

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