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Berlin-based airline Germania goes bankrupt

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Whilst it shouldn’t impact many HfP readers, it is worth knowing – as a sign of the parlous state of European aviation – that Berlin-based airline Germania filed for bankruptcy on Monday.

Originally a charter airline, it had moved heavily into scheduled services in recent years.  Whilst it did not fly to the UK, you may have seen or even flown on one of its aircraft last year as British Airways was using the airline to operate some BA flights from Gatwick over the Summer.

PS.  Head for Points in Vera

Finally, if you are taking a Virgin Atlantic flight during February, there is a profile of Head for Points in the current issue of in-flight magazine Vera.

Start reading from the back as it is virtually the last thing in it!

Comments (184)

  • Anon says:

    OT – I’m having difficulties getting Virgin Trains ticket miles being credited to my Virgin Flying Club account. My journeys meet all the preconditions (booking on the website / app, quoting the Flying Club number on the reservation, only travelling on Virgin trains services, travelling on a qualifying route) but they’re not accepting the claim. The Partner Miles email address is also very slow in responding, is there a better way to chase these miles up or even get them added automatically?

    • RTS says:

      Mine never gets added either. I always just send them a “missing claims” message via. contact us together with an attachment of my booking confirmation. They more often than not just credit the miles onto my account.

    • DavidA says:

      If you’ve booked an Anytime ticket they take ~3 months to credit. If you book an Advance then they credit within a day or two.

      I had a few that didn’t credit last year and when I checked, it was because I had added the onward tube ticket – which of course breaks the “only travelling on virgin Services” clause.

  • TripRep says:

    I was name dropping HFP to the VS UC crew & pax on my last flight, be interested to read the article.

    • Rob says:

      It’s quite short – even shorter than I was told which is why it is a little disjointed.

      • New Card says:

        I read it last night – Rob’s face took me by surprise as I was flicking through!

  • Dean says:

    Ot: Amex card application – Applied Friday, got the 10 day message, called Monday and it was approved, how long should I expect to wait before the card comes? I’ve heard referral bonuses usually post once the card arrives so waiting on the card atm

    • Mark Lyon says:

      In my experience, the card come within 2/3 days of approval, and sometimes I see the referral bonuses before the card arrives.

      • Dean says:

        Did you receive the confirmation email beforehand? I haven’t even received that yet, let alone the card/ referral bonus

        • Mark2 says:

          The email usually arrives several days after the card.

        • Dean says:

          @Mark2 hahah! Will wait for the card then and hopefully the referral bonus posts at the same time.
          Thanks!

    • thehornets says:

      I applied Friday too and have not heard anything either.

  • jonnii1 says:

    Rob – a correction re Germania. It did in fact fly to/from the UK for a short time, going from Gatwick to Erfurt in the former East Germany. I flew one way with them, with the flight taking an amazingly quick hour to get to the destination.

    • RussellH says:

      There is a significant comment column about the collapse of Germania in todays Süddeutsche Zeitung. I did not keep the copy I was reading, so cannot quote directly, but quoting concern that prices will go up etc. However, also evidence that this did not happen in Germany following the Air Berlin collapse.
      It did however say that Erfurt and IIRC, Rostock would suffer as the likes of EasyJet who took up many of AB’s routes will not be interested in serving smaller comunities such as Erfurt.
      Pity, Erfurt is well worth a visit.

  • Mr(s) Entitled says:

    OT Bits: I’ve an Emirates flight coming up and I’ve no desire to accumulate their miles. I know I can credit them to Qantas but can I then transfer them from Qantas and into Avios to make use that way?

    • John says:

      No, you can’t transfer QFF points to Avios (and you usually can’t transfer between airline FFPs).

    • Alan says:

      No – if you booked on a QF code you could credit direct to BA, but if on EK code you can’t do that. You can almost never move points between programmes like that (except hotel to airline, sometimes vv, usually at poor rates). SQ/VA is an unusual exception but definitely not do-able for QF/BA. No problem booking other OW airlines with QF points of course though – it’s whether you’ll think you’ll get better use that way or via transferring EK points to Heathrow Rewards.

      • Mr(s) Entitled says:

        I didn’t know that I could transfer EK points to Heathrow Rewards. Seems like that is the best bet, and from there I can extract value.

        • Alan says:

          Yep – https://www.emirates.com/english/skywards/about/partners/retail-leisure/heathrow-rewards.aspx – it’s a good setup, my folks got a decent number of shopping vouchers from a single return trip in Biz to NZ, esp as HR were doing double points at the time!

          There’s also some football stuff you can do with them too I think that Rob always tends to mention but holds zero appeal for me so don’t know the details!

          • Rob says:

            Yes, get yourself down the Emirates Box to see Arsenal. Really good VIP hospitality experience from 20,000 miles per person. Standard tickets are also available.

            They also had Queens Club tennis packages last year.

          • Alan says:

            Downside is being stuck having to watch football though! 😛 Queen’s Club could offer a more interesting alternative.

          • Rob says:

            Marriott has been reducing some of their O2 concerts down to 15,000 points per pair for last minute bookings. On my maths that is £75 of points, and given that 2 people can drink as much as they want for about four hours, plus enjoy a good hot buffet, it really doesn’t matter who is playing – just go for the refreshments!

          • Alan says:

            Haha yes although probably more just one for Londoners, not such good value after flights and accommodation taken into account 😀

        • Mr(s) Entitled says:

          I did consider the ‘occasion’ tickets but none are convenient to me and I’m only going to collect 1,800 miles x4 tickets with no appetite for more. I find it hard enough to use my avios and haven’t for years. Hotels are my focus but if I can get a little something out of this I’ll pursue HR.

    • Navara says:

      I think Easy Jet is an option

    • Mr(s) Entitled says:

      Thanks everyone for the input. My solution:

      EK -> HR -> Virgin FC -> Hilton

      7,200 EK miles can be transfer in chunks of 6,000 to give 2,000 HR points. 2,000 HR points become 2,000 Flying Club Miles. 2,000 FC miles become 3,000 Hilton Honors points but they can only be transferred in lots of 10,000 so I’ll need to combine these with an existing balance gain from, for example, Virgin Life Insurance.

      All of which results in a wastage of 1,200 EK miles AND lots of my time. I might be too far down the rabbit hole now for help.

      • Rob says:

        Doesn’t work.

        EK transfers into HR are ring-fenced and cannot be moved to an airline. They can only be used for shopping vouchers.

        I tested this out when it first launched if you search back.

      • Genghis says:

        I thought EK miles transferred into HR cannot then be transferred out to other miles (and this is hardcoded)?

      • Alan says:

        Nice try but EK transfers in have to be exchanged for HR vouchers and can’t be swapped back out, sorry.

      • Mr(s) Entitled says:

        Urgh….Any word on a Manchester Rewards scheme launching in the next 10 days. With a tie-up with EK?

        Looks like it is HR and then a good chance that they just expire in the next 3yrs through lack of use. I’m certainly not incentivised to travel via LHR just to claim £20 in vouchers. Oh well, lets see what now through 2022 brings.

  • chef says:

    no offers on either of our marriott cards either

    • Mark Lyon says:

      Same, My wife and I have not received a Marriott promotion, I have selected to be contacted for promotions via email and use Marriott every week.

    • Scallder says:

      +1 for both my wife and I

    • Martin says:

      Three accounts in our family including one Platinum Premier – not so much as a sausage.

  • Neil says:

    Hi. I am Marriott platinum elite and stay at a Marriott every week though haven’t had a mail about an offer and just checked on the app and no new promotions are showing for me.. is anyone else in a similar position?

    • Alan says:

      The majority of us judging by most of the comments!

    • Ian M says:

      I’m a Platinum Premier, no offer for me. No offer for my mum either (she doesn’t have any status). Disappointing. I’ll stick with Hilton and IHG

    • Dino says:

      No, I haven’t received any offer. Must only be for a select number of Marriott members

  • LewisB says:

    OT – Does anybody know if it’s possible to redeem on LATAM from Santiago to Easter Island? The cash prices are insane (as expected). Nothing is showing up on BA.com, perhaps this is a phone and book scenario?

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