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The HfP comments section has been filled over the weekend with people who are confused about what has happened to their Lloyds Avios Rewards American Express card in the last few days.

As we covered in the past, Lloyds Bank is in the process of converting all existing Lloyds Avios Rewards American Express and Mastercard cards to a new Lloyds Avios Rewards Mastercard.  It comes in the light green colour pictured below.

The key features of the new card are:

  • the upgrade voucher is dead
  • there will no longer be an annual fee, saving £24 (your old fee will be refunded pro-rata)
  • there will be foreign exchange fees of 3%

This is the earnings rate on the new Lloyds Avios Rewards Mastercard:

0.4 Avios per £1 you spend in the UK

0.8 Avios per £1 you spend outside the UK

0.4 Avios per £1 transferred on a balance transfer

Because the Mastercard element of the old Avios Rewards cards was so poor, this actually represents an improvement.  You currently get 0.2 Avios per £1 on the Mastercard in the UK and 0.4 Avios per £1 elsewhere.

The balance transfer option is a great deal when Lloyds runs its occasional ‘no fee’ promotions.  You move as much money as you can, pay it off the same day and pocket a big pile of Avios!

Lloyds has been writing to some, but by no means all, cardholders over the last couple of months giving them the required 60 days notice of the changes.

This being Lloyds, of course, things have not gone to plan.

This is what seems to have happened:

Most (all, according to the call centre, but this is not true) Lloyds Avios Rewards American Express cards have been cancelled in the last few days

Whether or not you have had the letter giving you the legally required notice, many people have had their American Express card shut down

Your existing Mastercard and Amex may have started to incur foreign exchange charges

Lloyds has switched over the benefits of your existing Mastercard without replacing it.  A new card will follow in a few weeks, but it appears the terms have already changed.  Many readers are reporting 3% foreign exchange fees showing up online for overseas transactions made in the last week or so.

Your existing Mastercard is now earning Avios at the new higher rate of 0.4 Avios per £1

The fee refund on your existing card should be showing on your Lloyds online account

Many readers who are currently travelling have been taken by surprise by this switch.  There are two problems:

People who HAD received the letter from Lloyds Bank were assuming that their existing terms and conditions (ie no FX fees) applied until they received their new-look Mastercard.  This appears to NOT be the case.  The letter did NOT have a switchover date on it so there was no way that people could have known when FX charging and the Amex closure were due to kick in.

Many people whose Amex cards have been closed have not received the letter at all, which means that Lloyds Bank is not legally allowed to switch them over.  Comments yesterday on HFP suggest that telephone agents at Lloyds can even see that you have not received your letter as it would be showing on your file if sent.

I’m not sure what the next steps are from here, except to say that:

Be wary of leaving the house with just your Lloyds Avios Rewards American Express card, as it may not work

Be very wary of spending outside the UK on your existing Lloyds Avios Rewards Mastercard, because you may well incur FX fees

If you do incur FX fees for transactions on your old Mastercard, get on the phone to Lloyds Bank and insist on a refund

If you have not received the ’60 days notice’ letter from Lloyds Bank and your American Express card is dead and/or your Mastercard has started to incur FX fees, consider making a formal complaint against Lloyds Bank for breach of contract

Keep an eye on your letterbox for your new Lloyds Avios Rewards Mastercard over the next few weeks

Let us know in the comments if you have anything to add to what we know so far.


How to earn Avios from UK credit cards

How to earn Avios from UK credit cards (October 2024)

As a reminder, there are various ways of earning Avios points from UK credit cards.  Many cards also have generous sign-up bonuses!

In February 2022, Barclaycard launched two exciting new Barclaycard Avios Mastercard cards with a bonus of up to 25,000 Avios. You can apply here.

You qualify for the bonus on these cards even if you have a British Airways American Express card:

Barclaycard Avios Plus card

Barclaycard Avios Plus Mastercard

Get 25,000 Avios for signing up and an upgrade voucher at £10,000 Read our full review

Barclaycard Avios card

Barclaycard Avios Mastercard

Get 5,000 Avios for signing up and an upgrade voucher at £20,000 Read our full review

There are two official British Airways American Express cards with attractive sign-up bonuses:

British Airways American Express Premium Plus

30,000 Avios and the famous annual 2-4-1 voucher Read our full review

British Airways American Express

5,000 Avios for signing up and an Economy 2-4-1 voucher for spending £15,000 Read our full review

You can also get generous sign-up bonuses by applying for American Express cards which earn Membership Rewards points. These points convert at 1:1 into Avios.

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold

Your best beginner’s card – 20,000 points, FREE for a year & four airport lounge passes Read our full review

The Platinum Card from American Express

40,000 bonus points and great travel benefits – for a large fee Read our full review

Run your own business?

We recommend Capital on Tap for limited companies. You earn 1 Avios per £1 which is impressive for a Visa card, along with a sign-up bonus worth 10,500 Avios.

Capital on Tap Business Rewards Visa

10,000 points bonus – plus an extra 500 points for our readers Read our full review

There is also a British Airways American Express card for small businesses:

British Airways American Express Accelerating Business

30,000 Avios sign-up bonus – plus annual bonuses of up to 30,000 Avios Read our full review

There are also generous bonuses on the two American Express Business cards, with the points converting at 1:1 into Avios. These cards are open to sole traders as well as limited companies.

American Express Business Platinum

Up to 80,000 points when you sign-up and an annual £200 Amex Travel credit Read our full review

American Express Business Gold

Get up to 40,000 points as a sign-up offer and FREE for a year Read our full review

Click here to read our detailed summary of all UK credit cards which earn Avios. This includes both personal and small business cards.

Comments (200)

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  • Liz says:

    Wonderful! We have just arrived in the USA for a month long trip and brought our Lloyds Amex to use. We have never received a letter so assumed we would be ok foe this trip.

    • Liz says:

      Just checked our account and it shows the Amex number. Will test it out in the next day or two.

    • Doug M says:

      I’m in California and spending on my Amex, if they’re adding FX fees they can expect a complaint.

  • guesswho2000 says:

    Strange, my online account still lists the Amex as the account number.

    My latest statement, from the start of May, clearly lists both cards and, crucially, says that forex fees applying are “None”.

    Also received an email a couple of days ago (2x separate emails) confirming the new cards were being sent out, one email for each of Amex and MC.

    • guesswho2000 says:

      Statement also has a note reminding me that my annual fee will be charged at the start of July!

    • John says:

      Same here except no email for me

      • guesswho2000 says:

        Should clarify, my existing cards expire at the end of June, so I’m wholly expecting these to be replacements of the existing arrangement, and not the new card (I assume that’s the case, as they’ve reissued the Amex).

  • mark2 says:

    Am currently in Canada and the Amex card works perfectly.
    Both numbers showing in online account but purchases seem to take a long time in pending.
    Where are fx charges visible?

  • EM says:

    Interesting. I’m in Brazil at the moment and used my mastercard twice, haven’t seen any FX fees on the statement yet, though. I believe it should show up as soon as you purchase something right? At least this is what I remember happening with the Amex.

    • John says:

      Err, as there are no FX fees with the Amex, why would any “show up as soon as you purchase something”?

      AFAIK, as I haven’t paid any FX fees in the past 6 years, and don’t intend to, the pending transactions will only show a GBP amount with the fees added, and when it posts it may not show the fee separately but just an effective exchange rate. There may have been some recent changes to regulations regarding this.

  • Waribai says:

    Can you really earn avios on balance transfers? I thought it was only possible on purchases…

    • guesswho2000 says:

      Yes, when they offer fee free txfers it’s particularly profitable.

      • Rob says:

        Was chatting to a reader on Friday making 10,000 Avios per month from this. However it requires you to be on the old Lloyds card which earns on balance transfers AND you need to be targeted for a ‘no fee’ deal AND of course you need fat balances to transfer. And, of course, you need to clear the balance immediately when it is transferred.

        • The Urbanite says:

          Indeed, I do about the same and the icing on the cake is the ability to pay it off by card… Thanks for the heads up from your article a few months back!

          • guesswho2000 says:

            Yes, the repayment options not being hobbled like certain cards has been particularly useful, I’ve now obtained IHG Spire Elite for what that’s worth (other than the 25k bonus IHG points).

        • guesswho2000 says:

          Yeah, sadly I’m not on the old one, so only get 250 Avios/£1,000, but I’ll take a few thousand at a time as a quick top-up!

          The original Duos are insanely generous in that respect, I’d be hammering those for everything I could…

  • Adam says:

    My Amex still works fine. No letters received here to close accounts yet.

  • Dave says:

    In OZ – both AMEX and MC are working as of 10 mins ago. No FX charges showing so far.

    No letter at any of my UK addresses….

  • vindaloo says:

    I received the letter but since there was no date associated with the switchover I figured it was safe to keep using the Amex card until it stopped working. Turns out it is still working but they’re charging FX fees on it. I guess I’ll need to complain as I’ve put several thousand pounds’ worth of hotel bills and business expenses on it in the past week.

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