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Come back at 11am for full details of Air France and KLM redemptions using Virgin Atlantic miles!

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Today is the official day for the start of Virgin Atlantic mileage redemptions (and indeed mileage earning) on Air France and KLM.

Reward seats were actually bookable on the Virgin Atlantic website yesterday, as you may have seen if you saw our comments section.  If you can’t wait, pop over to the Virgin Atlantic website and have a play.

The Virgin / KLM page is here and the Virgin / Air France page is here.  They were not updated last night but may be when you read this.

The good news is that we have everything in advance – the award charts, the peak and off peak dates, the list of countries in each zone etc.

The bad news is that we had to agree to keep it under wraps until 11am today.

Pop back at 11am (or, if you are reading this email, visit the site at 11am as it won’t be emailed until Friday morning) and take a look.

What we can say from dummy bookings yesterday is that mileage pricing is similar to Avios points pricing, but with sharply reduced taxes and charges as long as you start your trip in Amsterdam or Paris.  KLM is likely to be your preferred choice in most cases – it has lower taxes than Air France, a better business class seat (Air France is not fully flat on some of its fleet) and of course flies from far more UK airports than Air France.

We won’t be covering mileage earning on Air France and KLM for another day or so – there is a limit to what anyone can handle!

More later …..

Your complete guide to redeeming Virgin Flying Club miles on Air France and KLM (Part 2)
Bits: BA cancels one daily Hong Kong flight, BA launches Newquay, a good value Marriott New York redemption

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Comments

  1. Don’t you people know I have a dental check-up at 11am!

  2. Luckyjim says:

    We’ve been able to book KLM flights online using Virgin Miles for several days now. Lots of availablity between London and Amsterdam. No so much trans atlantic.

  3. I couldn’t find any BRS – AMS but maybe it’s limited routes to start with?

  4. I’d be interested to know why KLM has short haul business class tier point and mileage earning rates but Air France does not. My assumption, given all the rates are the same anyway, is they would be equal. However, you would have thought they would be posted correctly on the website.

  5. Europe-Asia’s looking like 220,000+ miles return plus about £400 or so, in Business, when I checked just now. Whereas LHR-HKG on VS metal was showing 80k off-peak… Ouch.

  6. Belfast city to Amsterdam returns a message saying we don’t fly this route but KLM does have flights 6 days per week. Are KLM cityhopper flights not included?

  7. OT:

    Have applied and been accepted for the Capital on Tap (COT) Business Rewards (BR) card on the deadline date for the bonus points (phew!)

    A couple of queries (which may seem a bit silly, so bear with me 😁)

    Firstly, on their website, the BR card is navy blue, the standard is yellow – I have received a yellow card

    I don’t care about the colour so much, I just want to know that it would function the same as a BR card and if anyone has experienced the same thing.

    Secondly, I have added the COT card to my Curve card, and the currency is showing up as USD.

    When I try and change the currency to GBP, the app informs me that USD has been detected and I might be charged for any spend in a different currency

    Ironically I’m quite happy for it to be a USD card 😎👍🏽 but again, I just wanted to know everyone’s experiences here with this

    vol x

    • Don’t worry about the colour my card is yellow also and has the correct Business Rewards Scheme attached (you can check this in the app/online). It looks like the BIN (Number Range) used by CoT must have previously been used somewhere in $ Land, changing the underlying card currency to GBP in Curve will not incur charges – but also remember that there is no markup on non GBP transactions with CoT so can be used directly also.

  8. Unless I am mistaken the below destinations are the only direct flights From the UK correct?

    Paris
    New York
    Boston
    Amsterdam

    Everything else are stop off?

    • With which airline? On VS metal there’s a lot note direct routes. On KLM/AF you’ll have to route through their hubs, and they don’t fly direct from London to NYC or Boston…

  9. New Card says:

    Are any of the fun Asian destinations actually available via the Virgin site? It doesn’t seem to recognise Male, Osaka, Taipei…?

  10. Yorkieflyer says:

    Dashed European johnnies, why does everything happen at 12 CET ?

  11. Have they? Everything in that article has been public for months – the new part today is the burn details, which they haven’t included.

    • My mistake, I am more focused on whether to move to Virgin from KLM/AF..

      I was trying to work out if it is worth crediting to Virgin based on my last year’s KLM activity. Problem is that I had short haul segments in fare classes X, U, E, F and P which are not shown on the tables.

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