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Government hires Morgan Stanley to advise on Virgin Atlantic bailout, talks ongoing

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Sky News reported this afternoon that Morgan Stanley has been appointed by the Government to give additional advice on Virgin Atlantic’s application for a bailout.

It has already been confirmed that Rothschild and EY are working with the Government, although EY is theoretically conflicted having been the auditor of British Airways and latterly IAG for more than 30 years.

It is unclear exactly what is being requested.  Whilst the report talks about ‘£500 million of public money’ being required, it is arguably more likely that the Government will provide a loan guarantee.  This would ensure than any banks which lent new money to Virgin Atlantic would have 80% to 90% of losses indemnified by the tax payer.   The upside of this approach is that it doesn’t require any public money to be handed over until (unless) the airline fails.

Government hires Morgan Stanley to advise on Virgin Atlantic bailout

The airline is also believed to be seeking a Government guarantee to allow it to access the substantial sums being held back by Visa, Mastercard and American Express.  As the credit card companies are liable to repay passengers under the Section 75 rules if the airline fails, they are refusing to hand over payment for ticket sales until after the date of travel.

It is also possible that the Government may take an equity stake, although this would primarily be for PR purposes to justify the guarantees.  Virgin Atlantic has never paid regular dividends to its shareholders and the level of debt in the business means that the equity has little value.  Air France KLM was only prepared to pay £220 million for a 31% stake back in 2017 – a deal which eventually fell through – and that was during a good point in the cycle.

Government hires Morgan Stanley to advise on Virgin Atlantic bailout

As we have covered before, Rolls-Royce, Airbus and Heathrow Airport have submitted letters to the Government stressing the importance of saving Virgin Atlantic.  Manchester Airports Group made a similar submission last week according to press reports.

To add to the confusion, Delta Air Lines – a 49% shareholder in Virgin Atlantic – received a huge bailout from the US Government this week.  It has been given $5.4 billion, of which just $1.6 billion is a loan.  This is despite spending almost $3 billion in 2019 alone on dividends and share buy-backs.  Do the US airline bailouts mean that the UK Government should do the same?  Or does it mean that Delta should use some of its free money to prop up Virgin Atlantic?

Virgin Group has already injected a reported $100 million into the airline in recent weeks.  Whilst it could clearly do more, it is also unclear how much of the value of Virgin Group is actually liquid as opposed to the value of its equity stakes in various businesses.

Virgin Atlantic also has a more uncertain future than British Airways because of its reliance on the US market.  If the US decides to impose tough restrictions on incoming flights for a couple of years, such as enforcing a two week quarantine period on arrival to anyone who could not prove coronavirus antibodies or vaccination, it will effectively end 90% of tourist and business travel.  The EU would be likely to impose parallel restrictions on US passengers in retaliation, cutting off the inbound flow. British Airways would be able to fall back on its short-haul network, whilst easyJet and Ryanair could operate a relatively normal schedule once European lockdowns end.

Without a guarantee that the UK-US aviation market will reopen soon without restrictions, it is hard to see how support for Virgin Atlantic could be justified.  Paying the airline to park most its aircraft for 18-24 months until the US allows tourism again is clearly not going to work, however strongly you want the airline to survive.

Talks with the Government are ongoing and expected to continue for a number of weeks.


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Comments (121)

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  • Ken says:

    Bailing out an Industrial scale tax avoider.
    The mind boggles.
    A business that doesn’t pay dividends as it’s retained earnings at the end of 2019 will be negligible.
    An industry that operates on tiny margins, and very few companies make real profits in the long run.
    There always seems to be an oil crisis, 9/11, global recession and now pandemic that destroys value.

    The idea that this guarantee won’t actually require hard cash being stumped up in the short future is risible and really Rob should know better.

    Let it die and let someone else use the slots. Not going to be a shortage of planes or pilots is there.

    • Jake B Hunt says:

      Agree. Let VAA die and someone else use the LHR slots.

      • Dave says:

        How unpleasant.

        • Paul says:

          Bailing out Beardie far more unpleasant. Yes staff will lose jobs but the same is true for many other sectors going forwards – prepare for a new ‘not normal ‘ normal for many years to come.

          • Gary says:

            Can we delete all these, quite frankly irritating, ignorant, biased, uninformed and political posts.

  • Heathrow Flyer says:

    What is the logic behind the US govt hosing Delta/United/American with cash?

    I thought Uncle Sam was all about the small state – every man for himself?

    • ChrisBCN says:

      It’s called lobbyists in Washington

    • memesweeper says:

      What on earth made you think that? Have you seen the rampant protectionism their car industry enjoys?

      • ChrisBCN says:

        Of course. Lobbying is a huge industry in itself.

      • Rob says:

        You’re having a laugh. If you believe that you really don’t know how the US works. For example, the US requires compulsory licensing for the vast majority of jobs. You can’t just “be a hairdresser” in the US – you must apply for a licence. This keeps down the number of hairdressers and so pushes up prices.

        I just looked this up. 5 US states require you to undertake 70 days of training and pass 2 exams to be a shampooer in a hair salon. NOT cutting hair, just applying the shampoo.

        In some states, you must have a licence to work in a bar. 36 states require you to be licenced to be a make-up artist. Louisiana makes it illegal to become a florist without a licence. It is all protectionism.

        Similarly, propping up failing businesses which make substantial political donations – either corporately or via their CEOs – is standard practice. You don’t get this in the UK because of the limits on political donations.

  • Jake B Hunt says:

    Just let VAA fail and allow BA the National flag carrier to take over the slots at Heathrow and the routes once the US borders reopen for tourist and business travellers alike. Why provide financial assistance to a failing airline which operates and relies on the majority of it’s operations to the US.

    • Antoine says:

      So, should BA hand back the billions received in the past when they were virtually bankrupted and the gvt saved then? Just asking…

  • Nick says:

    “NO WAY VA!” 😉

    • Kip says:

      Virgin Atlantic will be fine. If VS goes – VA is Virgin Australia – then there’s no real template for any company that hasn’t made huge profits to gain Government guarantees. That would have real-world effects on how businesses look to the future – profits before investment perhaps – that may not be beneficial long term.
      Any business that was viable before the crisis should receive loan guarantees. I thought that was the whole point of the scheme tbh, not to pick holes with individual companies business strategies.

      • Marcw says:

        Thier business model is outdated!

      • ken says:

        In exactly what way do you think Virgin Atlantic is viable in 2020 & 2021 ?

        It loses money already, has next to no assets, is heavily in debt. It hasn’t grown in the last decade.

        It’s about as viable as Woolworths was (once stripped of its freeholds).

        If its just a guarantee, why can’t Branson provide it ?

        Virgin had £300m + dividends from the West Coast Train franchise alone(no problem with that) in the time that Stagecoach ran it.

        His choice if he chose to spunk it on the utter vanity of space flights.

        By your logic we will be bailing out football clubs, Stubhub and bookmakers.

        One of the problems of the last financial crash is that cheap money has enabled zombie companies to survive.

        Amy bailouts should have at least the test of “is there a decent chance this money will be paid back”.
        In Virgin Atlantics case can anyone honestly see it being repaid ?

        No wonder Virgin so quick to come round with the begging bowl – once the taxpayer has put money in, it will be ‘might as well be hung for a sheep than a lamb’.
        It’s got the look of a bottomless pit.

        Even when things get ‘back to normal’ its very, very hard to see transatlantic flights bounce back within 18 months.

  • memesweeper says:

    This may not be an important airline in global, or even British strategic, terms, but it is a household name the government will feel under pressure to save. Can the UK gov. let it go bust and ‘nationalise’ it from the administrators for £1, assuming there is no commercial buyer?

    • Rob says:

      What difference does it make? It’s not (entirely) about debts, it is about ongoing losses. Those ongoing losses would not stop. Virgin’s Heathrow slots are also mortgaged and so woiuld be lost in a default.

      • Sean says:

        Who would the slots be lost too? Presumably not the lessors as they cannot operate them. BA are currently unable to use all the slots they have.

      • memesweeper says:

        they really don’t have any assets, do they? wow…

        • Lady London says:

          This is the case for quite a lot of trendy businesses nowadays. Everything rented and no assets. Or vapourware assets. All fine till the music stops and claims are made.

          • Rob says:

            Assets are liabilities if not paid for though, and if you did buy assets then you probably have debt from doing so – debt which may now outweigh the value of the asset.

            If we had borrowed £1m to buy a small office suite for HFP we would be in far more trouble than our actual position, which was having a WeWork office we could leave at 30 days notice.

  • Ian says:

    Interesting that you say “British Airways would be able to fall back on its short-haul network” Rob. I’m not sure this would generate anything like the profit needed to sustain BA in the form we currently recognise. I’ve always thought that without transatlantic Club World, BA is finished as its business model is so dependent on that sector of its business.

    • J says:

      Heathrow is just more convenient for most people (and it’ll be further strengthened when Crossrail eventually opens) so BA are always going to be OK. Separately O’Leary is right and I’m sure Ryanair will come out of this stronger than any of their rivals. If somehow Ryanair ever ended up acquiring some Heathrow slots though BA really would be in trouble.

      https://www.businesstraveller.com/business-travel/2020/04/15/ryanair-boss-predicts-massive-discounting-post-coronavirus/

    • Rob says:

      That’s true, but it is something. It also provides a good reason for asking for a bailout if it comes to it.

      • Noggins says:

        There’s been an interesting discussion here. And it is hard not to side with those that believe that support to VA would be misplaced. However, it’s funny how your thinking does slightly morph when you also reflect on personal circumstances. One month since promised a refund from Virgin Holidays I am still waiting for £15k….. (45 days they now say – forget the 14 day rule!)

        • Anna says:

          Were you going to Neckar Island?! I would definitely have taken further action by now.

          • Noggins says:

            That might have been nice! No, it was for 6 of us sailing in the Caribbean….
            Not sure what other action is / was possible. Contacting by phone is hopeless. I have been in touch with Virgin Money (partly paid on VA credit card) to discuss a charge back but as part is also paid on AMEX it won’t be quite so straightforward. But I am hoping that is a reliable backstop position.

  • Riccatti says:

    On this, ” under the Section 75 rules if the airline fails, they are refusing to hand over payment for ticket sales until after the date of travel.”

    How come the refunds from the airlines (both BA and Virgin) which were requested via call centre are in limbo. No one processes the actual credit back to credit cards. If moneys were 100% reserved until date of travel, then it makes no sense for an airline not to process agreed refunds.

    (I have very minor amounts, but they are outstanding for nearly a month now from the call centre conversation time, when refunds were supposedly actioned.)

    • Lady London says:

      The problem is that the airline already spends your money before they provide you your flight. Generally your fare money is not held in escrow.

      I’m not sure how it came about for the airline industry to operate this way but as @Genghis said it’s not a very sound way to run a business in general.

      • Riccatti says:

        Rob has written it as if collected fares are being held in escrow.

        While AMEX and others likely to increase withholding periods for funds, I also think they do release funds to the airlines and not after the flight date. The glut is likely to be specific to the UK card issuers who are liable for S75, and no doubt we will see movements to abolish that protection.

        • A says:

          Why do you think we’ll see moves to abolish it? It’s been around for 46 years and was in the CCA 1974 when originally passed (though the minimum required spend was £30 rather than £100 then, and max was £10,000 rather than £30,000).

  • mart says:

    Being a northerner i hope VS survive ,at least they are doing something from Manchester .Last few times i traveled BA (londonairways) horrendous,overpriced
    Yes i know the arguments against Branson ,i feel he needs to step up abit to justify taxpayers money.
    Rant over!!!

    • David says:

      I could kind of see the logic in attempting to bail out Flybe due to it network coverage but not VA.

      I realise that London Airways/ BA) will get a bail out come what may due to current UK Gov occupants but I personally wouldn’t miss it either.

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