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Changes are coming to the ‘kangaroo route’ between Australia and Europe. In fact, it will soon cease to be a kangaroo at all and be, erm, a kookaburra route instead?

This is because Qantas is on the cusp of launching non-stop flights between Sydney and Melbourne to Europe under its ‘Project Sunrise’ strategy.

Since 2017 Qantas has offered a direct flight from London to Perth, which is substantially shorter. It is able to fly this route with its existing Boeing 787-9s. By all accounts the flights have been a huge success with Qantas able to charge a premium over its one-stop flights via Singapore. Last year it also launched a non-stop Perth to Rome flight.

Qantas A350-1000 ULR

In the long term, Qantas hopes that Project Sunrise will play a key role in increasing its profit margins to 10-12%, up from 4% in 2019 and a predicted 8% in 2024.

Unfortunately, launching non-stop flights from Sydney and Melbourne to London is a little more complicated. Qantas can’t just repurpose its existing fleet without taking a large penalty on capacity to reduce weight, which would make the flights uneconomical.

Instead, it launched a competition between Airbus and Boeing to launch an ultra-longhaul capable A350 or 777X designed specifically for these routes.

After a multi-year negotiation Qantas confirmed it would acquire 12 specially modified Airbus A350-1000ULR aircraft. These are designed with an additional fuel tank which will allow them to fly with a full complement of passengers from London to Sydney.

The first of these A350s will arrive in 2025 with a view to launching non-stop flights to London and New York later that year. A new First Class lounge at Heathrow Terminal 3 will open at the same time.

What is interesting is that, despite the extra fuel tank, Qantas has chosen to fit these aircraft with substantially less dense cabins than other A350-1000 operators. In fact, it is installing 93 fewer seats on the aircraft than British Airways and 97 fewer than Virgin Atlantic:

  • Qantas: 238 seats
  • British Airways: 331 seats
  • Virgin Atlantic: 335 seats

Partly the lower density is down to aircraft range – it’s unlikely the aircraft could make the 10,753 mile journey with 300+ passengers and their bags and still have enough fuel reserves in case of emergency.

It is also down to the length of the journey, with Qantas saying flights will be between 18 and 22 hours long depending on the direction.

That’s a l-o-n-g time to be stuck in a carbon-fibre tube, particularly if you’re in Economy. This is why this week’s announcement is particularly impressive, with Qantas saying its A350s will have the best seat pitch (leg room) in Economy of its entire fleet.

Qantas unveils its ultra-longhaul A350s

The Qantas A350-1000ULR layout

In total, Qantas is planning to fit the fleet with 238 seats. This comprises:

  • six seats in First Class in a 1-1-1 layout
  • 52 Business Class seats in a 1-2-1 layout
  • 40 Premium Economy seats in a 2-4-2 layout
  • 140 Economy seats in a 3-3-3 layout

Now that Qantas has revealed renders of the entire aircraft we can go through the aircraft cabin by cabin.

First Class on Qantas’ A350-1000ULR

Qantas will continue to offer First Class and is installing six suites in what will be a very exclusive, private cabin.

Qantas will offer a seat-with-bed model rather than a seat that reclines into a bed. This is an interesting choice, as it means that the width of both the seat and bed are limited.

Qantas unveils its ultra-longhaul A350s

Qantas gives the seat width as 55cm, and looking at the renderings the bed can’t be much wider. That doesn’t compare favourably with ANA’s 95cm-wide ‘THE Suite’ or Lufthansa’s new Allegris First Suite which is also just under 100cm wide.

The benefit of having separate seats and beds is largely an operational one: they tend to save on weight (important on a ultra longhaul flights, of course) as well as complexity, which helps with design, certification and maintenance.

Qantas unveils its ultra-longhaul A350s

Each suite also features 142cm high walls and a fully closing door. Whilst 142cm isn’t the full height of the cabin, it should be very private with the walls extending significantly above the eyeline of the seat.

When it comes to design, which has been styled by David Caon, the First Class seat shines. The combination of wood effect, olive green and beige soft furnishings makes this look really cosy and inviting.

Business Class

Behind First Class are two cabins with a combined 52 Business Class seats in a 1-2-1 layout. This is a staggered layout with forward-facing seats from Safran, with Qantas selecting the new Unity model.

Qantas unveils its ultra-longhaul A350s

This is a doored mini-suite with 117cm-high walls. Qantas is installing it with an impressive bed-length of 203cm, making it one of the longest business class beds available. A typical bed length is between 195cm and 200cm.

Each seat features a large console table and storage unit, as well as what it is calling a ‘glove box’ for storing smaller items such as a passport and glasses.

Qantas unveils its ultra-longhaul A350s

When it comes to entertainment, Qantas is opting for a (presumably 4K) 18″ screen. I would also expect to see Bluetooth connectivity options as well as USB-C and wireless charging which are becoming increasingly common.

Business Class passengers will also have access to a self-serve snack bar and galley kitchen.

Premium Economy

Surprisingly, Qantas is choosing to install ‘just’ 40 seats in its Premium Economy cabin on the A350. I’m surprised it isn’t more – both British Airways and Virgin Atlantic have 56 – and I would expect a lot of passengers to want to upgrade from Economy on the ultra-long routes this aircraft will be serving.

Qantas has gone for a standard 2-4-2 configuration here, which means that everyone is, at most, 1 person away from an aisle.

Qantas unveils its ultra-longhaul A350s

The seats have a 102cm pitch, which is 5cm more than on Qantas’ 787s and the largest across its fleet. This is better than both British Airways and Virgin Atlantic which offer 95cm, although not as much as Norse Atlantic has on its 787s at 115cm. Each seat has a leg rest and foot rest.

The Premium Economy seats come with 20cm headrest wings for extra privacy and additional support, which should come in handy when sleeping.

These seats will have 13″ screens with Bluetooth connectivity, as well as two USB-C ports.

Economy

The remaining seats – 140 of them – will be in Economy in a typical 3-3-3 layout. The good news is that, thanks to its optimised fuselage shape, the A350 generally offers some of the widest Economy class seats in this configuration (unlike the Boeing 787, which is a squeeze in 3-3-3).

Qantas unveils its ultra-longhaul A350s

Each seat features 82.5cm of pitch, which is 5cm more than the industry standard.

As in Premium Economy, these seats will feature 13″ screens with Bluetooth connectivity, as well as USB-C ports. They also feature footrests that fold down from the seat in front.

Qantas’ Wellbeing Zone

The fun doesn’t end there. Qantas is installing what it calls a ‘Wellbeing Zone’ for all Economy and Premium Economy passengers – although I’m sure Business and First Class guests can use it too.

Qantas unveils its ultra-longhaul A350s

The Wellness Zone is an area around the galley and emergency exits between the Premium Economy and Economy cabins. Qantas is marketing it as an area to stand up and stretch, with handles and upholstered walls for comfort. A large screen will also display a recommended series of exercises.

In addition to offering some open space, you’ll also be able to grab snacks and drinks from here, similar to Virgin’s Wander Wall.

Qantas unveils its ultra-longhaul A350s

Overall this seems more of a way to keep the weight of the aircraft down than a real attempt at passenger wellness, although the creation of an exercise space is a big bonus for Economy passengers.

Conclusion

Overall, it looks like Qantas’ fleet of 12 A350-1000s will be a genuine comfort upgrade over the rest of its long haul fleet, although I’m still not envious of anyone doing the 20-hour flight in Economy or Premium.

It will be interesting to see if this is just the start of a trend for airlines to offer more and more ultra-long haul flights. Turkish Airlines has already said it is interested in acquiring ultra-long-range aircraft such as these to open up direct flights from Istanbul to Melbourne – will other European airlines follow?

Unfortunately we still have to wait two years until we see these flights launch. When they do, it will be the first time that regular commercial services operate non-stop between Eastern Australia and Western Europe.

Comments (85)

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  • twoclicks says:

    I agree with comments that these flights might simply be too long in Y or even P. Also, based on Qantas cash pricing it might be cheaper to fly Q suites, or about 80k Avios + c£80 one way from a European capital to Sydney or Melbourne in Q suites vs. much more for Qantas so this could be a hard sell for many with a bit of time spare. However, it will give us more options and that’s good news! The J and F seats look great too.

    • Chris W says:

      Do you really think the 90k Qsuites deal will still be around in 2 years time

  • The Savage Squirrel says:

    I have relatives in Perth so keep an eye on prices. Nonstop in business usually sells at a substantial premium to pretty much everything comparable so there’s clearly a market for this even to what’s really a 2ry city.

    Direct in economy is often similar in price to with-a-stop options. There is sometimes no premium whatsoever. Clearly the public do not fancy 17 hrs non-stop in standard economy. This matches comments here and personal experience too: our last family trip when flying econ’ to Oz (thanks to insane post-Covid surge prices and my frugality; your thoughts and prayers for the Squirrel family please!) the vote was unanimous that we would rather stop in Singapore despite zero cash saving vs flying non-stop. I’d imagine even fewer will fancy Sydney/Melbourne non-stop.

    Clearly the premium-heavy cabin config’ is sensible; in fact if ever there was a route where an all-premium plane makes sense, this is probably it as you presumably won’t be swapping these planes out to cover other random routes due to their fuel config and the impossibility of swapping other planes in. I wouldn’t be surprised to see the very back bit shrink further; or maybe will be marketed as “Economy-Extra” or something similar in order to try and drum up at least a little demand and pricing power.

    • lumma says:

      That’s interesting, in sure when the direct Perth flights began I looked and the direct was around £1200 in Economy versus £650ish on Emirates

      • The Savage Squirrel says:

        Yes, I found the same. The differential seems to have dropped steadily over time. The typical gap vs non-antisocial 1-stoppers is now usually lower than £300 and can be pretty much zero on some dates.

    • David says:

      Hard to know. British friend of mine who has lived in Melbourne for the last 15 years has small kids. She’s a seasoned J traveller, having been on the road a lot all over the world as a fashion buyer. I was really surprised to hear her say that she much prefers the PER flights in Y with her kids as she hates transiting a huge Asian airport with them. Just one data point but there are people out there.

  • Ian says:

    I’m sure I’m not the only one who’s used to seeing seat pitch in inches. The quoted economy pitch of 82.5cm works out around just 32.5in. which, although slightly better for example than BA’s standard 31in, is still pretty tight – and less than normal economy a few decades ago. 18+ hours in a seat that size? Not in a million years, thanks.

  • Ian M says:

    It doesn’t seem like there’s much of a time saving here flying LHR – SYD? It normally takes 22hrs when I’ve done it with Emirates via Dubai. So I don’t see the advantage of a direct flight if there isn’t a significant time saving

    • lumma says:

      Exactly this. London to NYC direct rather than via Paris/Amsterdam/Frankfurt is obviously so much better, but for this I’d rather pick a layover that gives me a better arrival time in Australia (or stay somewhere for a night or two on the way).

      I don’t even buy the business passengers are that time sensitive that this makes that much of a difference. You need some time to adjust when arriving in Oz and I think a well timed one stopper would work better.

  • Mikeact says:

    I see this as another step in a ‘no stop’ long haul route with a definite demand around the globe. Having done a one way on their Perth route, albeit in Business , I thought it was excellent….but the popularity/challenge was in trying to get Reward seats.

  • ADS says:

    Ultra Long Haul = Ultra High Pollution

    Burning extra fuel to carry the extra fuel for ULH makes the carbon emissions hellish (as well as the experience at the back).

    “No Way ULH” … to plagiarise Virgin

  • Alex G says:

    How many crew will they need for a 22 hour flight? Will be a significant additional cost, surely?

    • Jonathan says:

      SQ23 / 24 is similarly extra long flight, although it’s Premium and Business classes only, no Economy seats at all

      Although they’d probably have the crew on 5 and a half hour shifts, ensuring most of them rest when lights go out, and there’s only a couple around during that time

      Airlines know how to staff their planes for long flights, don’t count on the likes of Ryanair knowing these tricks !

  • Mikeact says:

    I think the Singapore/London bit is one of their 5th freedom routes if I remember correctly.

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