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The NEW Qsuite from Qatar Airways will be unveiled in July – and First Class is returning too

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When a new CEO takes the reigns they often re-evaluate their predecessor’s choices. Sometimes they continue on the same path and at other times they upend decisions.

In the case of Badr Mohammed Al Meer, who took over as CEO of Qatar Airways in October last year, it is a bit of both.

In an exclusive interview with CNBC last week, his first since taking over, he re-iterated the continuing progress of Qsuite 2.0 whilst also reversing Akbar’s decision to kill First Class.

Qsuite 2.0 is coming this year

Qsuite 2.0 is coming this year

The original Qsuite business class suite was introduced in 2017 and was one of the first to feature a door.

It was launched to critical acclaim – including from us – and remains the best business class suite out there. It is exceptionally spacious, private and – uniquely – can be combined to create a joint space for a group of two or four. And, of course, you can use Avios to fly it.

There was just one problem.

Optimised for the full 5.6m wide fuselage of the A350, for which Qatar Airways was a launch customer, the seat is too big for Qatar’s smaller widebodies including its fleet of Boeing 787s.

It is for that reason that Qatar Airways still has a remarkably inconsistent business class experience, with the A380 and Boeing 787s featuring the older Super Diamond seat introduced way back in 2011 and which we reviewed here.

Qsuite is also said to be one of the heaviest, if not the heaviest, business class suite out there. This makes it much less fuel efficient to fly and increases operational costs. There was room for improvement.

As early as 2019, Akbar was talking about a second-generation Qsuite product, dubbed ‘Qsuite Phase 2’ or ‘Qsuite 2.0’ that would launch with the arrival of Qatar’s 787-9 fleet in 2021. Unfortunately, the seat was not ready and those aircraft launched with the Adient Ascent seat, which we reviewed here.

Qatar Airways 787-9 business class
Not Qsuite, but not half bad either

Despite being a stop-gap solution, Qatar Airways was able to customise the seat extensively to the point that it is almost (but not quite) comparable with Qsuite. It is exceptionally comfortable.

It now appears that the airline is ready to lift the curtain on Qsuite 2.0, with Badr Mohammed Al Meer announcing that it will be revealed at the Farnborough Airshow in July.

In the past few years Qatar Airways has been a major exhibitor at Farnborough. At the last show, in 2022, it brought three aircraft including a Boeing 777, Boeing 787 and a Qatar Executive Gulfstream jet. You can read Rob’s interview with Akbar Al Baker from the event here.

It will be interesting to see how Qatar Airways chooses to launch the new Qsuite. Will it be simply as a seat model on a stand in the Qatar Airways chalet, or will it bring an aircraft with a full cabin? Knowing Qatar Airway’s flare for the dramatic, I suspect it could be the latter.

What will Qatar Airways Qsuite 2.0 look like?

No further details about the new seat were given during the interview.

At this point it is anybody’s guess what the second generation Qsuite looks like. However, it is widely believed to be a custom product rather than an off-the-shelf solution.

Based on the limitations of the existing Qsuite, we know there will be a few changes:

  • it will be (marginally) narrower, so as to fit on narrower wide bodies such as the 787 and potentially the A380 Upper Deck
  • it will be likely be lighter thanks to increased use of advanced materials, to reduce fuel consumption and cost

Any business class seat launching in 2024 must also feature the latest tech, including large 4K screens, Bluetooth pairing, wireless charging and USB-C cables. All of these are practically a shoe-in on Qsuite 2.0, and are indeed already available on Qatar’s Premium Suite on the 787-9s.

Qsuite 2.0 is coming this year

What isn’t clear is whether the seat will maintain Qsuite’s unique layout with quad seating in the middle pairs. This allows four people to ‘share’ a single space, pictured above.

Whatever it looks like, it would be good to see Qatar Airways commit to a refurbishment program of existing aircraft. Whilst Qsuite is fantastic, it only graces a small portion of the fleet and almost anyone connecting through Doha is also likely to experience one of Qatar’s older seats. The contrast between Qsuite, with its doors and high walls, couldn’t be greater from the open-plan seats on the A380.

First Class will return

If Badr Mohammed Al Meer is continuing Akbar’s legacy with the continued development of Qsuite 2.0, he is ripping it up when it comes to First Class.

Believing Qsuite to be better than many competitor’s First Class products, the airline’s First Class cabins were on the brink of extinction. The phase out was virtually complete until Akbar brought back some of the A380 fleet after covid to cope with the surging demand for travel.

Qatar Airways A380 First Class

This decision kept First Class alive – at least whilst the A380s were still flying – and Rob reviewed it back in 2016.

Badr Mohammed Al Meer clearly doesn’t feel the same way. “Based on the demand from certain sectors, we see a high demand for First Class, and as such, have decided to introduce a newly-designed First Class cabin unique to Qatar Airways.”

Qatar is “70 to 80 per cent ready and are only finalising colours.” He hopes to unveil it “soon”.

This new First Class product sounds a bit further away than Qsuite 2.0. My best guess is that it is being designed for the Boeing 777X, of which Qatar Airways has 74 on order. These will eventually become the airline’s flagship once the A380 fleet is retired.

Their size and capacity mean they are a natural fit for a First Class product, with many other airlines (including British Airways) also designing a new First Class for the aircraft. With these planes arriving no earlier than late 2025 or 2026 at the earliest, there’s still some time before those seats will be available.


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Comments (75)

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  • BJ says:

    I wouldn’t get overexcited, seven years have passed and they haven’t even managed to roll tbe exiting suite out to half their current fleet unless I’m mistaken. They’ve still got aircraft with the 2-2-2 business class cabins. I wonder if they’ll start the retrofit with the non suite aircraft so thst progressively more have suites of dome description.

    It is not possible to say Qsuite is “best” because it is subjective and should be qualified as your/HfP opinion.. There are a lot of people who do not lije it that much.

    Are A380s staying or going?

    If First is only coming to 77X it could be years away yet and (inevitably?) subject to the drama that has accompanied Boeings recent aircraft launched. By the the market for F could markedly change again.

    Can you remind us, what was the first airline to introduce a suite with a door?

    • Qrfan says:

      I was waiting for you to come along and proclaim that you prefer the comfort of the new slim line BAa320 over qsuite2 or something and I didn’t have to wait long. I hope the people you know who don’t like qsuite have the funds for regular private jet transport…

      • BJ says:

        Maybe you missed it Qrfan but I did post within past two weeks or so that Qatar Airways is my second choice of all airlines I can fly heading East from EDI. I just like to be realistic though, IMO it is a solid airline I enjoy flying but nothing outstanding about it all things considered. It’s better than most in most respects IME but INE it is not the best in any one aspect except possibly lounges but even there many (but not me)would probably say CX is better.

        • meta says:

          I second BJ. For me QSuite is the third choice actually. I actually try to avoid it if I can. It’s the most claustrophobic business class seat out there. BA for me is actually the last choice.

          • JDB says:

            The Q suite is claustrophobic because it’s very dark, perhaps for practical purposes. The Club Suite is better in this regard but the walls of the suite get mistreated by passengers and BA doesn’t fix the black scuffs and dents, nor indeed clean/maintain the suites so they definitely go to the bottom of the heap. It’s quite difficult to understand why one wouldn’t factor in the cost of cleaning and maintaining an expensive new product that is fundamentally good. The detritus that can be found in the Club Suites is pretty gross.

            Iberia wins out in this regard.

          • BJ says:

            BA isn’t even on my radar with a voucher at the moment. First choices is narrowly AY followed by QR, then CX if it works via AY+ OR ASMP. For Japan and around I’d prefer JAL or ABA, and elsewhere I’d also be very hsppy using *A East Asian carriers but that is more challenging for various reasons. I’m not keen on MH but only because I don’t want to find myself on a MAX when connecting to/from KUL.

          • BJ says:

            Agree with @JDB on this , the dark gloomy atmosphere of Qsuite is really the only thing I dislike about it. I have a similar issue with dark gloomy hotels, I jyst think bright with lots of natural light works better.

          • Rob says:

            This is something I like about Oman Air – whilst their business class seat isn’t the fanciest around (although it’s definitely top of the 2nd division) there is something about the colour scheme which really makes it look good. The lack of doors or high walls also means you get a lot of light in.

          • meta says:

            Yes, QSuite is so dark, but also the box next to the suite door is quite chunky and eats a lot of space, especially in true window seats. The photos actually don’t show this accurately. It’s very narrow in bed mode too.

            Going west it’s Iberia for me, going east it’s JAL, ANA, AY and Etihad. I’m using my 241 vouchers on Iberia and I’m happy with that.

    • Alex G says:

      “Can you remind us, what was the first airline to introduce a suite with a door?”

      Air geek trivia. Was it JetBlue?

      • meta says:

        Wasn’t it SQ with their old Suites class in 2008?

      • BJ says:

        SQ suites were first class only I think. IIRC the first suite with a door in business class was Delta One but I’m happy to be corrected.

    • Nnaeto says:

      777-9 is coming next year. TIA is coming end of the month which gives Boeing clearance for the final stage of certification. That’s the point to note for. Once the FAA grants TIA on the 777-9 then it means they are satisfied that the plane is mature and Boeing has addressed all issues

  • Harry T says:

    Qsuite has stood the test of time. It is still one of the best business class seats I’ve flown. And unlike Club Suite, the product doesn’t fall to pieces after a couple of years. I am excited to see what the new first and business products will be like. It is good to see them investing in first class instead of pretending their business class is so good it’s killed the need for first class (I mean, it’s better than pretend First like BA, but there is a place for real First). Good on QR for continuing to innovate.

    • Novice says:

      @Harry T, which routes are qsuite? I would love to try it but can never see it as an option.

      • BJ says:

        Makrs no difference, QA will very lijely switch the aircraft more than once before you fly. On my last fligvt EDI-DOH it was switched three times while the connecting flight to BKK was switched twice. You really need to monitor your seat assignments right up to departure. On my next flight they have me on a 777 with 2-2-2, just my luck if they don’t switch that 🙂 (Note to @ Qrfan, lije I said before I don’t really care, 2-2-2 is still better than sitting down the back.)

        • aseftel says:

          Personally I think the 2-2-2 is underrated. If you’re sat next to your partner on a night flight, it’s great. You’ve got a ton of space and can stretch right out.

          • Qrfan says:

            Agreed. Flew 2-2-2 Doha to Sydney pre COVID and had a great flight. Wouldn’t choose it for a solo trip but as a couple it’s great.

          • lumma says:

            +1, even if you’re flying solo, take one of the middle two and it’s super comfortable with more space than you’ll ever need

          • BJ says:

            In such case I think sitting face to face on BA CW is a better option provided one us not too tall or too broad for the seat.

      • Harry T says:

        Seems quite common on DOH-MEL and DOH-SYD. I’m not an expert.

  • Kowalski says:

    Great news that they’ll be continuing with First Class.

  • Thywillbedone says:

    Typo here perhaps: “Believing Qsuite to be better than many competitor’s business class, …” …think you mean ‘better than many competitor’s first class’?

  • NorthernLass says:

    Takes the reins!

    • Susan says:

      Yes! This one drives me bonkers.

    • BJ says:

      ‘Rein’ is apparently some non-simulated sex show in the Highlands seemingly funded by the National Lottery … just some recent trivia for fans of Not the Nine News fans.

  • Mark says:

    “…flare for the dramatic…” should be flair.

  • Sue says:

    Reins reins reins! “Takes the reigns” is just ridiculous if you think about it. Kings reign, horses have reins. He takes the reins. 500 lines please repeating “he takes the reins” you naughty boy.

    • NorthernLass says:

      Spelling in the media is generally appalling these days – it makes me wonder if a lot of journalists dictate their pieces via some sort of voice technology which is then transcribed by a program which can’t apply context!

    • TGLoyalty says:

      Depends if you believe being becoming CEO of Qatar airlines after Al Baker is like taking over a throne

    • riku says:

      also “shoe-in” instead of “shoo in”. Just what do “shoes” have in relation to something being practically a “shoe in”??

  • James says:

    I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again, Q Suite is good, but it is no First Class. Qatar First Class is superb. It makes Q Suite look very ordinary…..

    • Rob says:

      It’s terrible (in my one experience). The seat is useless vs Qsuite. The guy next to me (who was very much next to me, as we were in the middle block) a Qatari national, pulled out his tablet and watched a football game at full volume with no headphones. with no crew pushback.

      • astra19 says:

        Yikes. I’ve heard enough stories like that to put me off flying those airlines entirely. Plus the constant bait-and-switch of aircraft.

      • Bagoly says:

        Ah, that’s an interesting angle on privacy aspects including doors – not just what one wants oneself, but for protection against badly-behaving other passengers.

      • jj says:

        You’ve got me curious – did you ask him to be quiet or were you too British and polite to risk a confrontation?

      • Danny says:

        I would have played Celine Dion at full volume next to him until he got the hint.

      • NorthernLass says:

        It’s becoming all too common! They need to put something in the safety announcement, similar to when you’re in the cinema and they tell people to put their phones on silent.

      • Tom says:

        I’ve flown Qatar First (A380 and 777) approaching 40 times in the last 10 years. It’s not terrible but it’s also not superb. The seat is great if you get a quiet cabin with no one across from you, but completely lacking in privacy if not as Rob notes. The soft product has also been severely eroded over recent years to the point it’s basically now just the business class product with a better wine list and caviar. It’s better than BA First (and Qsuites) but that’s basically it.

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