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Hilton Honors devalues redemptions at top hotels – where does outsize value remain?

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Hilton Honors appears to have snuck through a series of points price increases at some of its very top properties.

It only appears to impact a small percentage of hotels, although the impact on the luxury portfolio is noticeable.

Some are untouched, even where they offer outsize value. I have a 150,000 points booking for the autumn at Waldorf Astoria New York, for example, and this is unchanged despite the $1,500+ cash rate.

Hilton Honors devalues redemptions at top hotels

There seems little evidence of increases further down the chain. A booking I have at Graduate Cambridge remains 60,000 points, for example.

Here are a few examples:

  • Waldorf Astoria Maldives Ithaafushi – up to 200,000 points from 150,000
  • Hermitage Bay, Antigua (Small Luxury Hotels) – up to 190,000 points from 150,000
  • Conrad Maldives Rangali Island – up to 140,000 points from 120,000
  • Waldorf Astoria Los Cabos Pedregal – up to 190,000 points from 150,000
  • Waldorf Astorial Platte Island Seychelles (image below) – up to 150,000 points from 130,000
  • Canaves Oia Suites, Santorini (Small Luxury Hotels) – up to 190,000 points from 130,000
  • Le Grand Bellevue, Gstaad (Small Luxury Hotels) – up to 190,000 points from 110,000

We’re not going back so many year to remember when the cap was 95,000 points per night. Heck, go back just over a decade and the cap was 50,000 points per night.

It also puts the current bonus points promotion of 1,000 points per stay into perspective ….

There are a few caveats here:

  • These properties generally remain outsize value for Hilton Honors points, given our target redemption value of 0.33p. You will still easily exceed that at the properties above in peak season.
  • Hilton offers ‘5-4-4’ on redemptions to anyone with Silver status or higher, so the rate is effectively 20% lower than the number above if you book five nights.
  • The economics with Small Luxury Hotels are still crazily bad for Hilton. I know from talking to SLH management that Hilton is paying close to the cash rate when you redeem for their properties. Hilton-branded hotels, on the other hand, are forced under their management contract to give away reward nights for, basically, marginal cost unless the hotel is full.
Hilton Honors devalues redemptions at top hotels

There are two core fundamental problems though:

  • Hilton continues to give away annual free night vouchers – with NO restrictions – on some US credit cards. The cost of fulfilling these vouchers at SLH properties or high occupancy Hilton properties is huge and is probably impacting the economics of the programme.

The bottom line is that the US credit card market is making things worse for a) everyone who lives outside the US and b) those people in the US who do ‘heads in beds’ but don’t participate in card churning.

Which hotel programme is the best for ‘outsize’ value?

In terms of the ease of getting outsize value from your hotel points, Hilton has now lost a bit of ground against Marriott. My order would be:

  • World of Hyatt – unbelievably easy to get outsize value because Hyatt still has published award charts. It’s the only hotel scheme where it makes sense to buy the maximum number of points you can each year (albeit Hyatt caps annual purchases at a low level).
  • Hilton Honors / Marriott Bonvoy – following these Hilton changes I would arguably put these two side by side in terms of the level of outsize value you get at top hotels. Both still offer solid value in, say, New York.
  • IHG One Rewards – IHG is moving ever closer to being purely revenue based. It’s getting far harder to exceed our target value of 0.4p per point.
  • Accor Live Limitless – this scheme is 100% revenue based (1 point = 2 Eurocents of free room) so it is impossible to get outsize value

Comments (65)

  • Talay says:

    I have never been able to get the Hilton scheme to work in my favour. My best years were with Hyatt and redemptions and upgrades at the Park Hyatt in Shinjuku – still my favourite city hotel in the world and I’ve been going since 1995.

    Marriott is getting harder to prize value out of the top hotels in Asia (I don’t go to the USA) especially against Minor Group with Discovery and the Anantara, Avani, etc. brands and 7% up to 14% (regularly) and 21% (occasionally) back in real money.

  • Matt says:

    I suspect the weakening dollar isn’t helping things either given the majority of points are likely bought in USD, including those from US credit card bonuses…

    • John says:

      The number of points you pay doesn’t bear much relation to how much Hilton pays the hotel for an award night.

      Plenty of the expensive properties are priced in USD/equivalent anyway (Maldives, Middle East, Caribbean).

      • Matt says:

        In the short-term yes, but if USD (or equivalent) denominated prices are rising due to inflation, then it means the points price needs to also increase eventually so that the hotels can cover marginal costs.

  • pbcold says:

    When using points always book 11/12 months ahead if you can ahead as reservations can be cancelled in a jiffy.

    • Tom says:

      But that goes against the “earn and burn” strategy that many advocate for points that can be devalued at any time. It amazes me that that someone would hoard a million or more points in any scheme.

      In any event this change does not affect me as I prefer mid-range properties. My aim is to save money on regular travel and not stay in expensive resorts for the sake of it..

  • Alex B says:

    Wouldn’t no be easier/better for Hilton to change their US credit card giveaways rather than the whole programme?

    • John says:

      Why would they do that?

    • Rob says:

      Do you have any idea how much these make? Amex pays Delta $7 billion per year.

      • Tariq says:

        Which completely degrades the argument that devaluation of the scheme is necessary in order to cover costs!

        • Andrew says:

          People are irrational. Offer someone a sign up bonus of 1M points in hotel scheme X or 10k points in scheme Y both of which would allow you to book 1 night and they’ll go for the former because it sounds much more impressive.

      • Dan says:

        Does make you wonder if seperate is schemes for USA are needed.

  • RonnieB says:

    HH offers very poor value now for mid range properties when redeeming points. IMHO IHG is far superior with similar properties costing half the number of points as Hilton, with a similar earning cost.

    Bit ironic the piss poor Hilton Honors Debit card is promoted 2 articles down !

    • pbcold says:

      I saved over £500 with that card when I had 10 free breakfasts in February – one should not be so dogmatic in this game; different people have different circumstances.

      • Sam S says:

        Yes but if you’re someone who has Diamond status/continued loyalty to Hilton (outside of the US diamond freebies) this joke of a debit card is just further devaluing it. How many gold/diamonds do Hilton want?
        I’ve said before that the gold and diamond benefits are way too similar and breakfast should be scrapped for gold (aware this a very unpopular opinion) but there’s hardly anything other than lounge access which sets diamond apart.

        • Revs says:

          There wouldn’t be much benefit to Gold if that was taken away.

          • Sam S says:

            But anyone can get gold by paying a £150 card fee. So the room upgrades (although not guaranteed) and bonus points earned on stays is fair imo.

          • Rob says:

            You seem to have dropped into the mindset of someone who thinks they run a payment cards business rather than a hotel business.

            Who is going to commit 40 nights per year to Hilton purely to get an 80% base points bonus?

            The majority (by number) of Hilton hotels are not part of the upgrade programme. Hampton is Hilton’s biggest global brand and it does not upgrade elites.

            The other brands that don’t upgrade are Embassy Suites, Hilton Garden Inn, Hilton Grand Vacations, Homewood Suites, Home2 Suites, Motto, Spark and Tru.

            Hilton expects Spark to be its biggest global brand in a few years, which means the biggest two by hotel numbers won’t upgrade.

          • Tariq says:

            Yes, seems unlikely that they would scrap it completely for Gold – perhaps a worldwide switch to a value based credit like USA – still gives something to Gold status holders and might perversely increase ancillary revenue with people topping up the credit with additional spend.

          • Sam S says:

            @Rob
            But that’s exactly my point – they don’t have to commit 40 nights because the Hilton Plus card offers gold.
            But someone who’s Diamond (like myself) and with status earned through the min. stays/nights requirement (not the US aspire CC freebie route), the Diamond and Gold benefits are just too alike considering one of the tiers requires paying just a £150 annual fee.

        • pbcold says:

          Some people take a less selfish view i am pleased to say.

  • Roberto says:

    Had two ten day holidays at Rangali Island in the last 5 or 6 years, one at 95,000 per night and one at 120,000.

    However the game has changed since then , points are harder to earn and a 10 day trip back at Rangali @ 1.12 Million Hilton points is never gonna happen again.

    We had a blast there , its an amazing place and I feel blessed to have been but I guess it’s time to look at other options.

  • Barry says:

    I’ve given up going for Diamond status – loss of breakfast in the USA, practically no upgrades in the USA, and redemptions being devalued 2-3 times per year. What’s the point in showing my loyalty when it isn’t being reciprocated.

    A sad, sad state of affairs.

  • Kowalski says:

    It’s sad that several programs are moving away from encouraging loyalty in terms of heads in beds and bums on seats, and then rewarding such loyal customers. But instead looking at the US credit card market. Feels like this might come back to bite them further down the line.

    • Tom says:

      It’s a bit of a self-reinforcing cycle to me. As the return on actually being loyal drops, the high spenders move away. As a result, profitability becomes even more reliant on credit cards and therefore the programme panders to them even more. Hilton and IHG went down this road a long time ago so there is nothing new to see here. Marriott is rapidly following now, Hyatt is all that is left for those actually wanting a return on loyalty but I have to imagine it will follow eventually.

      Quite honestly you’re better becoming a repeat guest at an individual hotel anyway, you’ll get far more in the way of ‘elite’ treatment that way that by actually being an ‘elite member’ in many of these programmes.

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