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  • dougzz99 628 posts

    If airlines move to Airspace XL bins or similar this won’t be an issue. Or indeed stop charging for check-in bags or make the charge nominal. Although, to be fair, that wouldn’t change my personal behaviour, but perhaps it would make others check their bags.

    US passengers fill these and more, US carry on expectation is unreal.

    Blair Waldorf Salad 1,151 posts

    If airlines move to Airspace XL bins or similar this won’t be an issue. Or indeed stop charging for check-in bags or make the charge nominal. Although, to be fair, that wouldn’t change my personal behaviour, but perhaps it would make others check their bags.

    US passengers fill these and more, US carry on expectation is unreal.

    And yet the published size limits are generally less generous than in Europe. I remember the hoopla when United launched its modified CRJ 550 as it had baggage lockers at floor level. Up to then people had gate checked wheeled bags and only brought personal items on board the CRJs.

    Andrew J 776 posts

    @BWS, at the Hilton Vienna Plaza, I stayed there on my last visit and really liked it, managed to get a good deal on a penthouse junior suite this time, plus 2 x Amex £50 cash back. Hoping breakfast is as good as it was pre-pandemic.

    We are on a break from Platinum at the moment but as you say there are many reasonable options for eating and drinking. Not to mention the cake shops on every corner!

    Hilton Vienna Park is a beautiful hotel, very stylish brand new rooms with great views across the city, huge Exec Lounge with roof terrace and the free-flowing Austrian sparkling wine served in Riedel glasses in the evening was excellent. Breakfast in the restaurant is also excellent – IC level quality and choice. Location is also really handy, literally across the street from Mitte station for the airport train.

    Blair Waldorf Salad 1,151 posts

    @BWS, at the Hilton Vienna Plaza, I stayed there on my last visit and really liked it, managed to get a good deal on a penthouse junior suite this time, plus 2 x Amex £50 cash back. Hoping breakfast is as good as it was pre-pandemic.

    We are on a break from Platinum at the moment but as you say there are many reasonable options for eating and drinking. Not to mention the cake shops on every corner!

    Hilton Vienna Park is a beautiful hotel, very stylish brand new rooms with great views across the city, huge Exec Lounge with roof terrace and the free-flowing Austrian sparkling wine served in Riedel glasses in the evening was excellent. Breakfast in the restaurant is also excellent – IC level quality and choice. Location is also really handy, literally across the street from Mitte station for the airport train.

    I have walked into both Hiltons, as part of reconaissance for future trips. I stayed at the Grand Hotel Wien on IHG points. Very nice but the odd Germanic single duvets on a double bed. I woke up constantly throughout the night and was exhausted by my last day.

    NorthernLass 8,237 posts

    The Vienna Park isn’t as handy for the things we want to do on this trip, I like to be able to walk everywhere when the weather’s good.
    @BWS, I’d forgotten about the single duvets, we didn’t get them at the Hilton Berlin though. I love all things Germanic, especially the words! German has the best words ever, like Schatzkammer, Knoblauch and Morgenmuffel!

    Keely 78 posts

    Partial curtain yesterday – Rhodes – LHR . So no aisle curtain but the mini curtain between the seats was pulled. Which I thought was worse. You may be able to sneak to our toilet – but do not look at us – we are too good for that!! ( Joking- I’ve always thought the curtain was a bit pointless anyway ).

    mef13 35 posts

    LGW-Kos on Saturday. Curtain and tables in all their glory. And a very good flight crew.

    bibby135 26 posts

    Curtain still in use on this evenings flight from LHR-JER. Curtain came across after take off. Good service and no one crept from Y-J. Good service in club on this evenings service 🙂

    MKB 75 posts

    On a Split-Heathrow flight a couple of weeks ago, the plastic mounting that holds the separator curtain on the left side of the plane detached on landing and hit the passengers in the last row of Club on their heads.

    I saw head rubbing, but I don’t think anyone was more seriously injured than minor bruising. This confirmed my long-held suspicion that these devices are not safe.

    ClubSmed 196 posts

    The curtain was in use on my GLA-LCY flight today, only 3 rows of business class though.

    Points Hound 53 posts

    On a Split-Heathrow flight a couple of weeks ago, the plastic mounting that holds the separator curtain on the left side of the plane detached on landing and hit the passengers in the last row of Club on their heads.

    I saw head rubbing, but I don’t think anyone was more seriously injured than minor bruising. This confirmed my long-held suspicion that these devices are not safe.

    What has fuelled your long-held suspicion that these devices are not safe @MKB? I’ve flown twice a week (give or take holidays etc) on BA for business for nearly 7 years now and have never once seen this, nor anything remotely similar or likely. What are you basing this on, one instance where a curtain rail fell down?

    MKB 75 posts

    On a Split-Heathrow flight a couple of weeks ago, the plastic mounting that holds the separator curtain on the left side of the plane detached on landing and hit the passengers in the last row of Club on their heads.

    I saw head rubbing, but I don’t think anyone was more seriously injured than minor bruising. This confirmed my long-held suspicion that these devices are not safe.

    What has fuelled your long-held suspicion that these devices are not safe @MKB? I’ve flown twice a week (give or take holidays etc) on BA for business for nearly 7 years now and have never once seen this, nor anything remotely similar or likely. What are you basing this on, one instance where a curtain rail fell down?

    It’s based on the fact that, while they usually seem secure, on occasions I’ve seen them rattle and shake a lot more than you’d expect, which makes me think that there may be some reliance on the user attaching them in place properly. They seem to be only clipped in place rather than securely screwed on. Is that the case?

    BA Flyer IHG Stayer 2,245 posts

    The curtain divider is a standard piece of Airbus kit and many airlines use them to divide the cabin up where they are variably sized.

    Since they are designed to be easily movable they certainly aren’t screwed in place.

    Whilst the incident you saw is unfortunate it’s not any sort of sign that the divider is an inherently unsafe piece of kit.

    executiveclubber 308 posts

    Partial curtain yesterday – Rhodes – LHR . So no aisle curtain but the mini curtain between the seats was pulled. Which I thought was worse.

    Same flying Barcelona to Heathrow. Very strange decision. Why would they change this?

    Gary 299 posts

    On a Split-Heathrow flight a couple of weeks ago, the plastic mounting that holds the separator curtain on the left side of the plane detached on landing and hit the passengers in the last row of Club on their heads.

    I saw head rubbing, but I don’t think anyone was more seriously injured than minor bruising. This confirmed my long-held suspicion that these devices are not safe.

    Curtain/mounting also fell off on a recent DUB LHR flight during take off when the crew already strapped in. One of them rushed to take it into storage. Reminded me of this thread…

    gtellez 163 posts

    No curtain divider in BA1385 MAN-LHR this morning, but at least we have the middle seat table (that for me is more important).
    Quite chaotic MAN T3 this morning, as usual, although “only” took me 30 min from arriving to sitting in the lounge having checked a bag in.

    Blair Waldorf Salad 1,151 posts

    No curtain divider in BA1385 MAN-LHR this morning, but at least we have the middle seat table (that for me is more important).
    Quite chaotic MAN T3 this morning, as usual, although “only” took me 30 min from arriving to sitting in the lounge having checked a bag in.

    To my mind, that’s one of the flights where a curtain can be a blessed relief! How was the boarding process at MAN? Usually I find one massive Group 1-3 queue to the left of the boarding gate door, Other Groups to the right, a mix of the disabled, the bewildered and the chancers in the middle – leading to a general undifferentiated mass along a rather tight corridor. Then the incoming flight disembarks and the staff struggle to get disembarking passengers in wheelchairs through the scrum. Then boarding eventually opens with mild to no pushback of non-priority passengers.

    gtellez 163 posts

    No curtain divider in BA1385 MAN-LHR this morning, but at least we have the middle seat table (that for me is more important).
    Quite chaotic MAN T3 this morning, as usual, although “only” took me 30 min from arriving to sitting in the lounge having checked a bag in.

    To my mind, that’s one of the flights where a curtain can be a blessed relief! How was the boarding process at MAN? Usually I find one massive Group 1-3 queue to the left of the boarding gate door, Other Groups to the right, a mix of the disabled, the bewildered and the chancers in the middle – leading to a general undifferentiated mass along a rather tight corridor. Then the incoming flight disembarks and the staff struggle to get disembarking passengers in wheelchairs through the scrum. Then boarding eventually opens with mild to no pushback of non-priority passengers.

    It was exactly as you explained it… however I was rather lucky as when I arrived the large 1-3 group was pretty much done so I went through in a minute or so.

    Anna 458 posts

    @BWS, every time! Does BA get some sort of discounted rate for the claustrophobic dead end that is gate 143? 😂

    Anna 458 posts

    I can report from row 6 earlier, which was the first row of ET, that the curtain and middle table trays were very much in evidence in front of us! We managed to survive 2 hours in economy and even got a free drink each as the cabin crew member doing the safety briefing fell onto my OH 😂🍸

    Blair Waldorf Salad 1,151 posts

    I can report from row 6 earlier, which was the first row of ET, that the curtain and middle table trays were very much in evidence in front of us! We managed to survive 2 hours in economy and even got a free drink each as the cabin crew member doing the safety briefing fell onto my OH 😂🍸

    Was the curtain’s function as a barrier respected or did Y passengers blithely pass through it to use the (obviously superior) front loo?

    Anna 458 posts

    Nobody breached the curtain that I saw, I think Austrians (or at least German-speaking folk) are too law-abiding for that! Also I think most people managed 1 hour 45 without needing to go.

    memesweeper 1,296 posts

    I can report from row 6 earlier, which was the first row of ET, that the curtain and middle table trays were very much in evidence in front of us! We managed to survive 2 hours in economy and even got a free drink each as the cabin crew member doing the safety briefing fell onto my OH 😂🍸

    Was the curtain’s function as a barrier respected or did Y passengers blithely pass through it to use the (obviously superior) front loo?

    Blithely? I was encouraged to by the crew on my return from Naples last week. A reversed “washroom” is not a class of travel benefit.

    executiveclubber 308 posts

    I can report from row 6 earlier, which was the first row of ET, that the curtain and middle table trays were very much in evidence in front of us! We managed to survive 2 hours in economy and even got a free drink each as the cabin crew member doing the safety briefing fell onto my OH 😂🍸

    Was the curtain’s function as a barrier respected or did Y passengers blithely pass through it to use the (obviously superior) front loo?

    Blithely? I was encouraged to by the crew on my return from Naples last week. A reversed “washroom” is not a class of travel benefit.

    There’s a reason they only put the White Company soap & hand cream and a late 1990s framed photo of London in only one of the toilets onboard, you know 😉

    Blair Waldorf Salad 1,151 posts

    Whether a reserved loo is or is not a benefit of the forward cabin is a longstanding matter of grave public concern over on FT forums. I had assumed on the more pragmatic HfP that we could take it as given that if you’re not seated in the forward cabin, and the loo is beyond that cabin, then ergo that loo is reserved for passengers of the forward cabin. And just because crew, at their discretion make exceptions, this is by no means open season on the front loo.

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