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Malaysia Airlines joins oneworld – with a Paris and Amsterdam loophole

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Malaysia Airlines System joins the oneworld alliance today.  And this means that you can redeem your Avios for their flights, as well as earning them by flying on Malaysia.

Let’s start by looking at redemption options.

To give BA credit, Malaysia Airlines flights are already showing on ba.com.  As usual, when an airline first joins an alliance, there is HUGE amounts of availability.  I saw up to 5 business class seats available, for example.

There are three great bits of news for anyone planning to visit Kuala Lumpur (or indeed Singapore, which is only 185 miles away, airport to airport):

1.  Malaysia Airlines is flying the A380 out of Heathrow (above)

with the London route being the first to receive the A380.  This page shows the very impressive First Class and business class product available, which looks like it could be better than the BA offering.

2.  They are also flying them out of Paris (and 777’s from Amsterdam)

Now, why does that matter?

Well, Paris to Kuala Lumpur is 6,492 miles.  Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur is 6,363 miles.  London to Kuala Lumpur is 6,593 miles.  And 6,500 miles is the cut-off between two Avios pricing zones.

Flying out of Charles de Gaulle or Schiphol will cost you 60,000 Avios return in Economy, 120,000 in Business and 180,000 in First.  From London, you need more Avios – 70,000 for Economy, 140,000 for Business and 210,000 for First.

And if that wasn’t enough, you also save on the taxes flying out of Paris or Amsterdam because there is no Air Passenger Duty.  Business Class, return, is £481 of tax from London but just £337 from Paris and £288 from Amsterdam.  And you save 20,000 Avios!

These numbers mean that using a 241 to get Singapore becomes less interesting.  On BA, you’re looking at 140,000 Avios plus £1,000 of taxes for 2 Club World seats with a 241.  On Malaysian, if you start in Amsterdam, you’d pay 240,000 Avios and £576 in taxes, get potentially a better seat and get to save your 241 for another trip.

The A380 will be flying from Paris from March 1st.

3.  Malaysia has a decent route network to Australasia and other parts of Asia

Have a look at the route map and try out prices at ba.com.  Taxes are high – higher than Cathay Pacific, for example – but availability should be OK.

Earning on Malaysia

British Airways has also published its earning chart for flights taken on Malaysia.

Take a look here.

All in all, this is a great addition to oneworld.  Whilst you can’t use an Amex 2-4-1 voucher for a redemption on Malaysia, they add a lot of extra flexibility for trips eastwards from London.

And if you do head out to Kuala Lumpur, I can recommend the Four Seasons Langkawi if you’re looking for an excellent beach resort.  Some people, if staying for a week, mix in a few days at The Datai down the road.


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How to earn Avios from UK credit cards (February 2023)

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In February 2022, Barclaycard launched two exciting new Barclaycard Avios Mastercard cards with a bonus of up to 25,000 Avios. You can apply here.

You qualify for the bonus on these cards even if you have a British Airways American Express card:

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There are two official British Airways American Express cards with attractive sign-up bonuses:

SPECIAL OFFER: Until 21st February 2023, the sign-up bonus on the British Airways Premium Plus American Express card is increased to 35,000 Avios from 25,000 Avios. You can apply here.

British Airways American Express Premium Plus

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You can also get generous sign-up bonuses by applying for American Express cards which earn Membership Rewards points.

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold

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You should also consider the British Airways Accelerating Business credit card. This is open to sole traders as well as limited companies and has a 30,000 Avios sign-up bonus.

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There are also generous bonuses on the two American Express Business cards, with the points converting at 1:1 into Avios. These cards are open to sole traders as well as limited companies.

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Click here to read our detailed summary of all UK credit cards which earn Avios. This includes both personal and small business cards.

Comments (32)

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  • Phillip says:

    It is very interesting to see how BA is using places like Mumbai, Istanbul and Paris to connect onto MH flights to and from Heathrow. Rather disappointed that for the time being there are neither Business not First class reward seats available at any time in November and December for the KUL-LHR route! There are however to Paris!

  • Ed says:

    I’ve done a bit of searching and can only find MH Economy tickets – perhaps I’m looking in the wrong place?

    • Raffles says:

      I got loads of Business dates to come up in May, although that was the only month I checked.

  • James67 says:

    Or if you have AAdvantage miles you can have Asia to Europe or vice versa for 52.5 k ow in business with low tax and fees, especially from AMS. Still waiting for AA to load. However, always worth checking MH premium revenue fares as there is sometimes great value on those. Note also the OW double miles promo if flying soon.

    • Raffles says:

      I forgot to mention the double miles promo! For tickets bought after today only (although that may not be enforced) all oneworld airlines are offering double miles on Malaysia flights from 15 Feb to 15 April.

      Malaysia has historically run some aggressive business class sale fares which book into Z class, which BA treat as miles earning. Would be interesting if these continue.

      I too am keen to see what taxes AA adds. If they are surcharge-free then it is another reason to think about building an AA balance.

      • James67 says:

        Having purchased AA miles a few days ago I have just been stung as a 50% bonus offer has started today. Buying 40k miles for about £850 gets you 60k miles with bonus. Depending on needs this is a great buy.

        For example ow business beteeen Europe and se Asia can be had for 52.5k miles plus minimum taxes if avoiding BA and UK departure. An even better redemption value is 60k for a Europe to India return in business for 60k availing of very low tax and fees, and full flat bed seats on AY.

        Purchaseing just 10k miles more for about £200 more opens up ow F on my first example and 15k more rtn F in my second example. This promotion can easily make it worthwhile to purchase full miles needed for a redemption, especially on the very expensive North America to Europe routes. So for those without any AA or other miles its a great opportunity to experience long haul premium profucts at relatively low cost.

  • F2O says:

    Thank you Raffles for your blog/’reminder’, and so I got meself THREE J one-ways from CDG to KUL early-ish July for 180K Avios plus £599.10. Had wanted to use the 2for1 but like you said this is way better.

  • Martyn says:

    This is awesome news, I would love to try out their J product. Shame there is no OW connection from EDI to either of those cities, but I suppose could be easily done with KLM/AF.

    The Sheraton in KL is also awesome and very inexpensive.

    • Raffles says:

      As is the Hilton, which shares a building with LeMeridien and has the advantage of being opposite the station where the airport express train arrives. Lots of very nice hotels, actually – although the Mandarin Oriental, nominally the poshest brand in town, is I think still badly in need of a refurbishment (one that is difficult to justify given KUL’s low room rates).

      • martyn says:

        I did a couple of nights in the Hilton, and it felt a bit characterless to me. Cool rooms though with sliding walls and what not. Can’t believe how cheap 5* hotels are in that city.

  • gagravarr says:

    I flew with Malaysian over Christmas in Y, and their on-board staff were excellent. Friendly, helpful, always coming round with drinks and snacks. I was much less keen on their customer services and a few of their ground staff, but as long as you don’t have problems you ought to be fine!

    If you do fly in Y on their A380, try to get a window seat on the top deck. The window seats have large lockers next to them which you can put all your stuff in for easy access, and you can spread out a bit over them too, made for a great flight

  • Raffles says:

    Since ba.com got updated (which was after I wrote that airberlin piece) it is automatic. Search for LHR to KUL at ba.com and the Malaysia flights will automatically show if available. Same with CDG and AMS. What date, roughly, did you want, and what class?

  • G Grimes says:

    ..anyone having issues with booking Air Malaysia on
    BAEC..using AVIOS
    Looking to go CDG to Brisbane in Oct 2013 and it shows availability…everything seems fine till verified payment page..
    Then no matter what card I use it falls over..
    Called BAEC they say they can see no availability and its
    “Teeting troubles..” damn frustrating

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