Big news – HMRC cuts credit card fee to 0.4% which means VERY cheap points!

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One of the biggest jokes, since the EU cap on Visa and MasterCard fees came into effect in December, was that the Government itself was ignoring them.  The fee for paying your tax with a credit card actually rose in January to 1.5%.

The great news is that this move has been reversed.  HMRC is now offering ‘interchange plus’ when calculating your credit card fee.  That may sound like a very boring statement but, for many of us, it is the most exciting news to hit the miles scene in a while.

These fees apply when paying self-assessment tax, VAT, employers NIC / PAYE or any tax collected by HMRC.

For a self-employed person such as myself, this will be a fantastic miles and points generator.  I still have the BMI Platinum MasterCard which earns 2.5 Avios per £1.

I did a test on this card yesterday and the new HMRC fee is 0.386%.  This means that I will be able to ‘buy’ Avios for 0.15p each! 

HMRC logo

I tested another couple of cards:

Marriott Rewards MasterCard – 0.374% (0.37p per Marriott point)

IHG Rewards Club Premium Visa – 0.415% (0.2p per IHG point)

Curve – 1.973%

The Curve card figure is high because this is classified as a business card and is not subject to the caps on interchange fees imposed by the EU.  Whilst high, you may still find 1.973% worth paying if you recharge your tax bill to an underlying American Express – especially if it lets you trigger a 2-4-1 voucher more quickly.

To take full advantage of this, you need a Visa or MasterCard which has a decent earnings rate.  Those are harder to find these days on free cards but some paid cards do have strong rates.

The Virgin Flying Club Black Visa, for example, earns 1 mile per £1.  Paying 0.4p per Virgin mile would be an excellent result.  The same goes for the Emirates Skywards Elite card.

The Lufthansa Miles & More Visa earns 0.75 miles per £1 – and the card is free.  You would be paying around 0.5p per mile which would allow someone with large tax bills to get themselves into the excellent Lufthansa First Class product at low cost.

The Lloyds Premier Avios MasterCard is the best Avios route if you don’t hold a legacy card.  However, at just 0.3 Avios per £1, you will still be paying just over 1p per point.  That will make sense for some people but not all.  If you are prepared to jump through the hoops required to get one, the HSBC Premier credit card at 0.5 Avios points per £1 is interesting – you would by paying around 0.8p per Avios.

The big winners here will be the self-employed or SME owners who have a legacy Visa or MasterCard with a high earnings rate.  Even without a legacy card, however, you could do very nicely by getting one of the card products above.

This is not a long term opportunity, unfortunately.  The earning rates on many Visa and MasterCard cards are unsustainable under the new EU rules and will be slashed as contracts come to an end.  For a couple of years, however, you can do very nicely …..

Thanks to Chris.

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  1. Big Al says:

    Thanks Daniel, is it possible to use the Virgin black card amex to pay it, as there 2 points per £1, or shall use the visa black card

  2. Big Al says:

    Brilliant thanks for the advice

  3. Guesswho2000 says:

    Wish my District Council would do the same, still 1.6% for paying Council Tax by credit card! And they won’t take Amex!

    • Try selecting debit and then trying all your MC and Visa cards.

    • Paying council tax by Paypoint at a Co-op is a way of using Amex for free if your council has that as a payment option

    • Peter K says:

      My council has just started accepting PayPal, including AMEX via that route. I don’t even need to go to the co-op 🙂

  4. I’ve not got any grandfathered cards (is that what you call them)

    What’s the best card for Avios? or would I be better off Using the Virgin.

    Getting a bit confused here. but then I’ve only had about 12 hours sleep this week!!

    I pay about £80k a year to HMRC so would love to know the best way to maximise this!

  5. I thought the bmi master card was 1.5 Avios per pound and the Amex was 2.5 Avios. Please correct me if I’m wrong.

    • They vary. Some are 1 Avios/£ Visa and 2 Avios/£ Amex, and one is 2.5 Avios MasterCard for which you pay £60 pa. All closed to new customers for many years.

      • Best £60 a year I spend!

        • Interesting to see how things come and go. Just as miles credit card earning was looking rather bleak, along comes the Curve card and the HMRC .4% charge, each of which provide a miles bonanza while they last.

  6. BA-flyer says:

    So how does my local council get away with charging 1.9% for credit card payments? If the most they are charged is 0.4%, how do they justify the difference?

  7. Jason says:

    Supercard is still free!!

  8. Topp2015 says:

    Any news on when curve will arrive?

    • Some people have already received theirs. Apparently you will get an email notification to tell you yours has been shipped

    • Axel Heyst says:

      Mine has arrived. It has a £200 daily limit on atm withdrawls but as some transactions may take overnight to appear it’s more like £200 limit every two days.

      Monthly limit of £5k on each linked card.

      Curve will send bank security divisions mad as users will change their spending patterns and the fuzzy logic on detecting fraud will be over zealous.

      Expect some laughter and tears

  9. aceman says:

    Hopefully you’ll be able to shed light on the fate of the IHG card.

    Can you remind us how much you value 1IHG point at compared to 1VS mile, compared to 1 hilton point.

    I have no non-amex cards, and a truly terrifying tax bill due next year

    • You can buy IHG points for 0.4p so hard to value them at more. Hilton points are worth 0.3p at higher end hotels. Virgin Flying Club did not devalue and you can safely get 1p on Upper Class redemptions. Economy redemptions are also better value than BA as the taxes are £100 lower.

  10. Oyster says:

    The one year they owe me!

  11. Alex W says:

    OT but related. Can anyone suggest any method for earning a wedge of points by paying off student loan? Thanks

    • harry says:

      One-off repayment
      You can make a one-off repayment to your student loan at any time using: •a debit or credit card;
      •cheque or postal order; or
      •an international bank transfer, if you are abroad.

      By debit or credit card
      You can make a card payment by logging in to your online account. We accept Visa Credit, Visa Debit, Visa Electron, Maestro, Mastercard Credit, Mastercard Debit and Laser (Euro). There will be approximately a 1.5% surcharge added to payments made by credit card or non-UK debit card. There’s no charge for using a UK debit card. If you, or someone else, would like to make a repayment towards your loan without logging in to your online account, it’s possible to make a card repayment using just your surname and customer reference number.,3866890&_dad=portal&_schema=PORTAL


      So in your position I’d be using my debit card – but perhaps there is a case for Curve after all?

      • Genghis says:

        Did you take a punt in the end and apply for Curve, Harry? I remember you saying you weren’t sure.

        • harry says:

          no, call me stick-in-the-mud but I’m not that enthralled

          once the first young fellow-me-lad withdraws £1000 @ ATM in week 1, I might change my mind 🙂

      • harry says:

        I guess student loans might go down to a 0.4% charge same as HMRC, in which case i’d use my MBNA Visa 1 MR point per £

        • harry says:

          adds – following HMRC, it’s now hard to see govt agencies or pseudo agencies (eg council tax, student loans etc) charging more than the interchange+ 0.4% fee

          I reckon many will follow HMRC’s lead

  12. Rich Spencer says:

    Does anyone know whether you can apply the voucher to a booking retrospectively in the case of the Lloyds upgrade voucher?
    I already have 2 CW single flights booked back from Dubai in Nov and can prob spend 7k over the next few months- obviously adding to the existing booking is easiest way of doing it but I am wondering about cancelling and rebooking?

    • Alex W says:

      I think the voucher has to be used at time of booking.

      If you cancel there is no guarantee that the reward seats are available for booking again. So I would book the new ticket before cancelling the old one, if possible.

      Also if you want to use the voucher for 2x single flights, I believe it can only be for 2 people on the same flight.

  13. Richmond says:

    Very useful information, however you need credit card limit to cover the whole tax due, to get most of it:

    “From 1 January 2016, HMRC will limit the number of times you can use a credit or debit card within a certain time to pay your tax.

    The rules apply to multiple card payments against the same tax – you can only make extra card payments if each one’s for a different tax, eg Corporation Tax and employers’ PAYE.

    If you’re unable to pay your Corporation Tax bill in full by card, you should use another payment method like a bank transfer.”

    • Northern lad says:

      I’ve also read this but didn’t interpret it as “severely”. It does state “limit the number of times” but not what this number actually is?

      They also state “There isn’t a set limit – it depends on HMRC’s view of what’s reasonable based on payment card industry standards and guidance.”
      There are numerous types of tax (PAYE/NI, VAT, self assessment, corporation tax etc) and various payment frequencies (monthly, quarterly, twice yearly and annually).

      This could be extremely lucrative for anyone “fortunate enough” to pay lots of these taxes but credit limits, interim monthly payments to credit card company (to remain within limits) and this unknown HMRC limit could restrict/complicate things.

      If anyone can get the actual answer as to what is “reasonable”, I would be intrigued.

      • Richmond says:

        I will def. pay VAT and CT using my cards. That will be great miles and hotel points earner.

  14. Slightly good news for me. I’ve only got the Lloyds Duo MasterCard so slim Avios gains. But hopefully this will still be around when Curve comes to Android and I’ll pick up a BA card to hit a 2-4-1.

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