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News in brief:

The end of Monarch Vantage Club

I have purposely avoided writing anything on the collapse of Monarch.  The mainstream press can cover it better than we can and, since they stopped being an Avios redemption partner, we have hardly covered them.

Monarch did have its own frequent flyer scheme of sorts, Vantage Club, although it was so unexciting that I never wrote about it.  Ever.

This is a little odd, since the Monarch CEO since April 2014 has been Andrew Swaffield who was previously CEO of Avios Group.

The status benefits were actually OK.  Eight return flights got you Gold status which let you have free date changes, subject to paying any fare difference, and even free name changes on your tickets.

As a scheme for earning free flights it was pretty useless, primarily due to the high levels of taxes you still had to pay.  British Airways remains the only European airline to make short-haul redemptions attractive, via Reward Flight Saver.

Oh well.  That’s Monarch and airberlin gone within a month of each other.  Some City analysts are also questioning whether Norwegian can survive the quiet winter period.

Hilton Honors tweaks the ‘fifth night free’ rule

Hilton Honors has a pleasant bonus when you make a long redemption booking.  If you book a five night reward stay, the fifth night is free.

You need to have Hilton Honors status to take advantage of this deal but – unless you have transferred all your points from American Express Membership Rewards or Virgin Flying Club – you are likely to have it anyway if you can afford a five night redemption.  And if you don’t, Silver status is free with the UK Hilton credit card or you can get a status match from another hotel scheme.

Previously, the value of the free night was calculated by averaging the points needed for first five nights of your stay and deducting 20%. Ever since the Hilton scheme changed earlier this year to a variable pricing model – where each night could be priced differently – customers have been getting confused because it wasn’t clear how the discount was applied.

The deal has now changed.  The fifth night of your stay is now the free one, irrespective of what it costs.

If you have complete flexibility over when you stay, you can reduce the cost of your trip by ensuring that your fifth night falls on a more expensive night.  If you can’t do that, you will have to accept the fact that you will do better on some trips and worse on others.

Let’s assume a hotel is priced:

  • Monday – Friday 50,000 Hilton Honors points
  • Saturday 80,000 Hilton Honors points
  • Sunday 40,000 Hilton Honors points

….. and you are staying for five nights.  The best deal is to stay Tuesday to Sunday, since Saturday is the fifth night and at 80,000 points the most expensive one.  The worst deal would be to arrive on a Wednesday, since your fifth night would be Sunday which would only save you 40,000 points.

In general, however, this is a positive change for those with flexibility to plan their stays around Hilton’s variable points pricing.

Lufthansa ‘500 miles for downloading the app’ bonus extended

Miles & More – the Lufthansa, SWISS etc programme – is still giving out 500 bonus miles for everyone who downloads their app and logs in for the first time.

This offer was meant to expire on 30th September but has been extended to 30th November.  Even better, the miles post instantly.

500 Miles & More miles won’t get you a ticket in Lufthansa First Class, but they will get you a tiny bit closer.

Open the App Store or Google Play, search for Miles & More and download the app.  Once downloaded, enter your login details and the 500 bonus miles will show immediately in your account.  That’s all there is to it.

Comments (97)

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  • Tilly says:

    Thanks for reminding me of 5th night free. Totally forgot and only yesterday I was wondering if I had enough points for 5 nights in Toronto, hopefully staying next year in the spring if I can get a 241 flight redemption too in F or J (might be lucky). should have enough points for 4 nights so thinking we should be ok if we can get the flights ……..should have 241 voucher by Christmas.

  • Scottydogg says:

    O/T , with regards to the Black IHG Mastercard .
    Does anyone know if you can churn this card to get the sign up bonus again after ‘X’ amount of time ? I cancelled mine after hitting the £10,000 spend but i do kind of like it to put my non amex spends on .
    I can only justify the £99 if i can get the sign up bonus again and the free night after £10,000 spend .
    Anyone know how long i would have to wait ?

    • Genghis says:

      Not heard / read about anyone who’s done it (it’s still quite early having only launched in what was it, Jul/Aug 16). There’s nothing in the T&Cs saying you can’t apply again and get a bonus. Perhaps be a pioneer and report back?

    • Rob says:

      We don’t know, the card has only been around 15 months or so.

  • meta says:

    O/T It does concern Miles&More though. I just noticed that I got an extra 1000 miles in August, but posted on Friday. It just says “Top Secret – Did you know”. Not that I’m complaining, but does anyone know what’s this for?

  • Richard says:

    >>British Airways remains the only European airline to make short-haul redemptions attractive

    Lufthansa also has an attractive short haul scheme since you can pay the taxes with additional miles. so the redemptions cost nothing at all, only miles. if you have lots of miles that seems quite attractive.

    • RussellH says:

      It is also reasonably attractive if you only have a fairly small amount of miles, and unlike BA there is no additional charge for a two leg flight when setting out from MAN. You can combine one of their mileage bargains (15 000) with a further 15 000 for taxes and charges and get a completely free journey for 30 000 miles. It is not marvellous value if you compare getting 1 avio per £1 on a BA Amex with 1 LH mile per £1 on an MBNA Visa, but if you have 32 000 LH miles and little prospect of getting many more it is a lot better than nothing!

  • Max says:

    I’m a bit concerned about the claim that “some City analysts are questioning whether Norwegian can survive the quiet winter period”. Is this based on anything concrete, or is it a case of malicious rumour-spreading? Once rumours like this start to spread, they can perpetuate and lead to market worries. Of course, if there really is some well-founded doubt about Norwegian’s ability to survive the next few months, then fair enough. But otherwise, this seems like rather an irresponsible claim to make.

    • Mr(s) Entitled says:

      Besides which, having spent a few decades in the City most talk complete B/S and confuse opinion with fact. Pick an analyst and look at their record. The successes are publicised, the numerous times they are way off the mark with ratings are routinely forgotten. It’s a crap shoot.

      * Caveat, watch Norwegian fold like a deck of cards within minutes of my post.

    • Andrew says:

      It’s how the city works. When a number of companies in a sector fail, the market starts paying close attention to the next weakest.

      Still, looks like Monarch’s failure will be a blessing for Ryanair. There’s suddenly a large pool of unemployed pilots to choose from…

      • Michael Jennings says:

        >Still, looks like Monarch’s failure will be a blessing for Ryanair.
        >There’s suddenly a large pool of unemployed pilots to choose from…

        All of who are qualified for Airbus A320s/A321s rather than Boeing 737s, alas. So they won’t be any immediate help. Along with Monarch’s Gatwick slots, this might be an opportunity for Easyjet, though.

  • pommy ray says:

    hi
    the MasterCard ihg link 30 per cent partner rate off (upto 30 per cent off flexible rate) would not get cash back but does usually qualify for accelerate offers. I’m assuming company or partner rate don’t get cash back. sometimes the cash back can be as good as the mc discount plus you have the full access of rates. need to compare both situations separately.

  • lev441 says:

    O/T – flying virgin upper class today for the first time – anything I should look at doing at the clubhouse?

    • Mark says:

      drinking a red head 🙂

      • Rob says:

        Get a free haircut – but you need to put your name down when you go in. Take your trunks for the in-lounge jacuzzi (if it survived the recent refurb). Have a meal, the restaurant is very good.

        • Neil says:

          Also don’t forget to “Borrow” the Salt & Pepper when on board. I use mine every day at home and I still love them.

          • Alan says:

            Haha agreed – also love how they assume that you’re going to do that in advance (see bottom of the shakers for those that haven’t!)

        • Lev441 says:

          Thanks rob. Thanks to you/hfp I’ve been able to travel premium classes since I started my own business a few years ago and getting clued in to the many ways to collect points.. Had a great meal and trim at the clubhouse and now I’m on board the newly configured a330. Last night the seat map at check in looked like it was swapped to the more dense cabin but it seems like it swapped back today! Unfortunately the jacuzzi is no longer!

        • Lev441 says:

          @neil and @alan – love the salt and pepper shakers!

    • Alan says:

      Make sure you head up to the roof – nice viewing platform 🙂

  • Andrew says:

    500 Bonus Avios on BA Amex with £10 spend at Tesco

    (Apologies if already posted)

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