Maximise your Avios, air miles and hotel points

Should you leave American Express for 24 months until you can get a new sign-up bonus?

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We have spent a lot of time in the last few days discussing the new American Express sign-up bonus policy.  In most cases, you need to cancel all of your personal American Express cards and wait two years before you would qualify for any new sign-up bonuses.

As I pointed out on Thursday, for someone who does not have an American Express card and has not had one in the past 24 months, you can still earn 65,000 Avios relatively quickly.

This is the best strategy for maximising Avios under the new Avios rules:

For your first card: 

Get the Starwood Preferred Guest American Express (bonus of 30,000 Marriott Bonvoy points) or Nectar American Express (20,000 Nectar points) or Platinum Cashback or Platinum Cashback Everyday.  I would see the Starwood option as the most valuable.

Once you have got your first card, you are disqualified from bonuses on most of the other cards.  There are two exceptions however:

For your second card (or third card, order is not important):

Get The Platinum Card (bonus of 30,000 Membership Rewards points) because the only restriction on getting this is if you have held another Membership Rewards-earning card (Preferred Rewards Gold, American Express Rewards, Green, Gold Business, Platinum Business) in the previous 24 months

For your third card (or second card, order is not important):

Get the British Airways American Express Premium Plus card (bonus of 25,000 Avios) because the only restriction on getting this is if you have held either British Airways American Express card in the previous 24 months

The reason for the order here is that as soon as you get The Platinum Card or the British Airways Premium Plus card, you block yourself from all of the bonuses in the first list.

Under the new rules, if you had not previously had a personal American Express card, this strategy will earn you:

30,000 Marriott Bonvoy points from the Starwood American Express or 20,000 Nectar points

plus

30,000 Membership Rewards points from The Platinum Card 

plus

25,000 Avios from the British Airways Premium Plus card

If you converted the 30,000 Marriott Bonvoy points into 10,000 Avios and the 30,000 Membership Rewards points into 30,000 Avios, you would have earned 65,000 Avios fairly quickly from sign-up bonuses.

What are your options as an existing cardholder?

If you are currently an American Express personal cardholder, you have two options.

Option 1 is to carry on as you are, keeping one of the American Express cards in your wallet but knowing that in most cases you will never be eligible for another sign-up bonus

Option 2 is to cancel all of your personal American Express cards and start the 24 month clock on when you can pursue the strategy above

For a lot of people, I think Option 2 is pretty attractive.

Option 2 allows you, in two years time, to pick up 65,000 Avios relatively quickly via the application strategy I outline above.  Your partner can do the same.  Importantly, you can refer your partner for the cards using the ‘refer a friend’ programme.  Add in the referral bonuses and you can still earn over 150,000 Avios between two people once every two years.

What would you do for 24 months whilst you are waiting? 

Spend on a totally different card.

There are LOTS of non-American Express cards out there that you can use for the next 24 months and some are pretty attractive.  Here are the most valuable options:

Virgin Atlantic Reward Mastercard – annual fee £0 – earns 0.75 miles per £1 – sign-up bonus of 5,000 Virgin Flying Club miles – our review / apply

Virgin Atlantic Reward+ Mastercard – annual fee £160 – earns 1.5 miles per £1 – sign-up bonus of 15,000 Virgin Flying Club miles – our review / apply

Miles & More Global Traveller Diners Club and Mastercard – annual fee £79 – earns 1.25 miles per £1 – sign-up bonus of 5,000 Miles & More miles – our review / apply

IHG Rewards Club Mastercard – no annual fee – earns 1 point per £1 – sign-up bonus of 10,000 IHG Rewards Club points – our review / apply

IHG Rewards Club Premium Mastercard – annual fee £99 – earns 2 points per £1 – sign-up bonus of 20,000 IHG Rewards Club points – our review / apply

HSBC Premier Mastercard – no annual fee – earns 0.5 airline miles per £1 – no sign-up bonus – our review / apply

HSBC Premier World Elite Mastercard – annual fee of £195 – earns 1 airline mile per £1 – sign-up bonus of 40,000 airline miles – our review / apply

There are plenty of alternatives out there.  It is worth remembering that KLM and Air France will soon be redeemable with Virgin Flying Club miles, adding a lot of extra options.

You get some decent long-term incentives too.  The IHG Rewards Club Premium Mastercard offers you a free night voucher each year if you spend £10,000.  The Virgin Atlantic credit cards offer a 2-4-1 or upgrade voucher each year if you spend £10,000.

New American Express sign-up bonus rules

If you think you prefer Option 1 – carrying on as you are – remember how hard it would be to earn 65,000 Avios via normal spending

If you cancel all of your American Express cards, I showed you above how – in 24 months time – you can pick up 65,000 Avios fairly quickly via three applications.

If you choose to keep your existing cards, you will obviously continue to earn miles as you always did.  However, think about how much spending would be required over the next two years to earn 65,000 Avios:

£65,000 on the free BA Amex, Amex Gold or Amex Platinum

£43,333 on the British Airways American Express Premium Plus

£52,000 on the Starwood Preferred Guest American Express

Most people can’t hit these targets and are better off cancelling everything – you will earn more miles from Amex by cancelling and waiting 24 months.  This also ignores the huge number of points you’d earn by diverting your spend to one of the other cards above.

The ‘elephant in the room’ is the BA Amex 2-4-1 voucher

The key problem, if you cancel all of your American Express cards to restart the 24 month clock, is not earning a British Airways American Express Premium Plus 2-4-1 voucher.

You might be happy to skip the voucher for two years, especially if you have existing vouchers to use up.   If you are still earning a lot of Avios via other routes (like flying) you may well need to bite the bullet and keep your BA Amex open.

This doesn’t totally stop you getting other bonuses.  You would still be eligible to apply for The Platinum Card every 24 months and receive a 30,000 points sign-up bonus.

And you need an Amex to pay the taxes on your 2-4-1 tickets ….

Remember that you need to pay the taxes when you redeem a British Airways 2-4-1 voucher using an American Express card.  Despite what the rules say, it doesn’t need to be a BA Amex and it doesn’t need to be in your name (Amex does not check names as part of its card verification) but you WILL need access to an American Express.

And possibly a Platinum-coloured elephant too ….

For some people, The Platinum Card poses a similar dilemma.  What will you do for airport lounge access, travel insurance, hotel status etc during your 24 month hiatus?

Finally, do the Amex cashback offers have value to you?

Most of us have save £100+ per year via the cashback offers added to our Amex card statements.  You should factor the loss of those savings into your calculations.

New American Express sign-up bonus rules

Ignore this article entirely if you have a small business

Forget everything you just read if you have a small business.  The sign-up rules on Amex Gold Business and Amex Platinum Business have not changed and you can reapply for those and receive a new bonus after just a six month gap.

Conclusion

You need to decide if you are going to walk away from American Express entirely for the next 24 months.

For many HfP readers, this may be a sensible strategy.  Put your credit card spend on other products and then, in two years time, return to American Express and get three cards in quick succession – earning 65,000 Avios – using the strategy above.


Want to earn more points from credit cards? – April 2024 update

If you are looking to apply for a new credit card, here are our top recommendations based on the current sign-up bonuses.

In February 2022, Barclaycard launched two exciting new Barclaycard Avios Mastercard cards with a bonus of up to 25,000 Avios. You can apply here.

You qualify for the bonus on these cards even if you have a British Airways American Express card:

Barclaycard Avios Plus card

Barclaycard Avios Plus Mastercard

Get 25,000 Avios for signing up and an upgrade voucher at £10,000 Read our full review

Barclaycard Avios card

Barclaycard Avios Mastercard

5,000 Avios for signing up and an upgrade voucher at £20,000 Read our full review

You can see our full directory of all UK cards which earn airline or hotel points here. Here are the best of the other deals currently available.

British Airways American Express Premium Plus

25,000 Avios and the famous annual 2-4-1 voucher Read our full review

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold

Your best beginner’s card – 20,000 points, FREE for a year & four airport lounge passes Read our full review

The Platinum Card from American Express

40,000 bonus points and a huge range of valuable benefits – for a fee Read our full review

Virgin Atlantic Reward+ Mastercard

18,000 bonus points and 1.5 points for every £1 you spend Read our full review

Earning miles and points from small business cards

If you are a sole trader or run a small company, you may also want to check out these offers:

British Airways Accelerating Business American Express

30,000 Avios sign-up bonus – plus annual bonuses of up to 30,000 Avios Read our full review

American Express Business Platinum

40,000 points sign-up bonus and an annual £200 Amex Travel credit Read our full review

American Express Business Gold

20,000 points sign-up bonus and FREE for a year Read our full review

Capital on Tap Business Rewards Visa

Huge 30,000 points bonus until 12th May 2024 Read our full review

For a non-American Express option, we also recommend the Barclaycard Select Cashback card for sole traders and small businesses. It is FREE and you receive 1% cashback on your spending.

Barclaycard Select Cashback Business Credit Card

1% cashback uncapped* on all your business spending (T&C apply) Read our full review

Comments (374)

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  • Jonathan says:

    Advice please . I’m sitting on two 241 vouchers and another one coming in the autumn . I have about 300,000 Avios . And at the moment have no travel plans. If I get shot of the bapp card can I pay taxes on future 241 flights using any other card than an Amex . If not I don’t have a choice but to keep an Amex and therefore forego any sign up bonus.

    • Graham Walsh says:

      Must use an Amex card

      • Joanie Mitchell says:

        Does the Amex card have to be in your name? Eg, can you get someone else with an Amex to pay your taxes then you pay them back?

    • Spurs Debs says:

      No. All other card options are greyed out it’s amex or nothing.

    • Martin Robertson says:

      You have to pay with Amex.
      Doesn’t have to be a BA one though, despite what Amex tell you when you cancel the card.

      • Alex Sm says:

        What if Amex is reading all this and will eventually limit paying taxes to the actual BA card only? Then you are scr*wed… the risk is too high

        • Mr(s) Entitled says:

          Then you reapply for the BA card. Not the end of the world.

        • Worzel says:

          Mr(s) Entitled 08:51 :

          Not much fun though when you’re trying to nab a couple of seats 355 days out……

        • Mr(s) Entitled says:

          Worzel: I dont disagree, but this is why Avios hold very little appeal to me. Too difficult to use, not cost effective, don’t always sync up with where I WANT to go WHEN I want to go.

          You would be unlucky though for AMEX to enforce the rule on 356 days out leaving you snookered. Not impossible though. Reality is most people should have a window to react if required.

  • Mikeact says:

    I guess Rob’s strategy is one I’m happy with, assuming all three applications go through in two years time.

  • Boobaholic says:

    So would I recieve 18k per referral from my Plat card for any amex card I refer and someone takes out ? Can I refer myself for a number of the free ones over the next few months to secure the referral points, but obviously not any sign-up bonuses ?
    Ta.

  • Graham Walsh says:

    Yes. That was my plan and still is. Just no sign up bonus anymore.

  • Nick says:

    For the VM Virgin Atlantic cards to continue earning at the level they do the competition would surely need to be strong so doesn’t look great for long term use of them either.

  • Mark says:

    Assuming the sign up bonuses are the same in two years. They could halve, and I personally think Amex will change the rules again to favour loyalty.

    It would be nice to see a yearly bonus that increases with each year you use your card.

    • Mr(s) Entitled says:

      American Express are a very large global company operating in lots of markets. Have you seen them offer increased loyalty bonuses in other countries?

    • Polly says:

      Yes, agree that could be an idea. MBNA did that a few years ago. A staged spend, 10k aa miles for the 1st 1k,spend, followed by 20k miles for a further 10k spend, and another 20k for a further 10k spend. A lot,of us got those 50k aa miles then. In fact we added to,them, as plan to,use them for Hawaii at some point. However, as declined as usual, so had to keep adding to the pot from spg. But we have enough now.
      Amex could do something similar.

      • Mr(s) Entitled says:

        They could do something similar, but based on the information we have to hand a determination can be made on the probability.

    • Drennan Duplooy says:

      Yes. Valid point. There’s too much talk on here about abusing the system rather than maximising loyalty. Cancel all your Amex cards in the hope that they’ll welcome you back in two years with the same loyalty bonus?

  • Geoff Chapman says:

    Confused to say the least. Cancelled my partners ba classic card in Aug with a view to getting back premum after 6 month. Checked with amex on morning of 21st and told bonus still in play. Applied at 08.00 and was approved. Saw article on bonus shortly after. Rang amex their staff seemed as confused about “family group” entitlement.
    Have been told by 2 people at Amex (on the 23rd) that we can apply for Amex preferred rewards gold credit card and still get the bonus, even though I still hold a BA classic card and my partner held one 6 months ago, as this is not in the same “family” as the ‘BA cards’.
    I was told they would confirm this in writing.
    Someone seems to have their facts wrong.
    Give it a try ring them on 0800 917 8047.
    Can anybody provide the correct I found please.

  • Diane Green says:

    Thank you so much for information.

    Just checking whether the Tesco credit card which offers avois points through MasterCard is another additional card worth having? This is really on a spending only basis when Amex is not accepted. More an everyday card.

    Would love your views and whether extra points from cartridge recycling etc is actually worth it.

    Thanks

    • Polly says:

      It’s such a poor earner, but if needed just for non amex spend, it’s ok, but not the best, of course. Just make sure to always double dip in Tesco, pay with amex, and scan clubcard or credit card for your clubcard points.

    • Andy S says:

      I use Tesco debit card for any non Amex spend. Works out 1 avios per £3 for non Tesco spending (worked out in multiples of £8 increments £15.75 only 1 avios £16.25 2 avios ) Also paid my tax bill with it.

      Were getting 3% on £3000 monthly interest, dropping to 1% in a few months time

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