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British Airways and Qatar Airways plan a JV to Adelaide, Canberra, Melbourne and Perth

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British Airways and Qatar Airways have submitted a request to the Australian Competition & Consumer Commission to form a joint venture on nine routes to Australia from the UK.

Sydney is NOT included – I think both airlines know that such a request would be thrown out as damaging to competition.  Instead, it will cover the following routes:

  • Adelaide – Manchester
  • Adelaide – London
  • Canberra – London
  • Melbourne – London
  • Melbourne – Edinburgh
  • Melbourne – Manchester
  • Perth – London
  • Perth – Edinburgh
  • Perth – Manchester

What is a little odd about this joint venture is that British Airways brings virtually nothing to the party EXCEPT for its brand.  Apart from the BA flight to Doha, every other flight in the joint venture will be operated by Qatar Airways.

At present, anyone looking to travel from London to Adelaide would be routed on British Airways to Sydney and then onto a Qantas codeshare.  British Airways believes it can make more money by filtering passengers onto a Qatar Airways flight in Doha.  As this is a joint venture, rather than just a codeshare, British Airways should make more money.

There would be very little obvious difference if the joint venture was approved.  There may be some retiming of flights so that connection times in Doha are minimised.  British Airways Executive Club status members would receive a tier bonus on the Qatar Airways service from Doha, which is not currently offered.  Apart from that ….. little changes.

This doesn’t mean that approval for the joint venture is a given, of course, since it reduces competition into the four Australian cities.  It may also raise questions over the future of the British Airways Sydney service, with many potential passengers planning to connect onwards now siphoned off via Doha instead.

You can find out more on the ACCC website here.


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Comments (154)

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  • Harry T says:

    OT:
    IHG 4x promotion:
    My 4x base points triggered on my stay at the Amstel earlier this month but hasn’t triggered on my subsequent stay at IC Prague. Does anyone know the fastest way to get the extra points credited to my account? I am IC Ambassador and could email the Ambassador team but was wondering if there was another way that would be better.

    • ThinkSquare says:

      I filled in the missing points form on the website for a missed 4X, and the points were credited within 24 hours.

    • ChrisC says:

      Phone them

      I called about missing accelerate achievement points and they were in my account in seconds.

    • TGLoyalty says:

      Perhaps not such a silly question but you did book before the 15th.

      It took me a couple emails but it was fixed very quickly once she accepted I don’t have to wait 4 weeks.

      Twitter are also usually very quick to sort out issues.

    • Aston100 says:

      I had missing x4 promo points. I used the IHG live chat and it was resolved fairly quickly.

    • Sanya says:

      Had the same issue, Twitter sorted it within in an hour!

    • Czechoslovakia says:

      Missing bonus points here too. IHG IT at its best again. They use the same IT co. as BA?

  • Soloflyer1977 says:

    OT: is a curve (via Lloyds Avios card) to Revolut top up, now classified as a cash transaction?

    • TGLoyalty says:

      Curve pass on the merchants MCC so yes they would be if Lloyd’s is seeing it as a cash advance, Lloyds just charge interest rather than a fee.

      There was never any need to use curve as Revolut accepted credit cards directly.

      • Boi says:

        So if you pay loyds as soon as transaction hits the card charge is small?

        • TGLoyalty says:

          Yeah imagine creation would be similar. However I don’t know if the Lloyds would earn points until I see my statement

    • Don says:

      I topped up on 23rd Jan before I had a chance to read the comments about the Revolut changes.

      I’ve had a £25 charge whacked on by Barclaycard for a top-up that I paid off in the same day. It seems that as Barclaycard charge a cash advance fee, plus interest, there is no way to top-up now without some kind of fee.

      I’ve asked them to waive this fee. Has anyone managed to get them to waive the fee?

      • jc says:

        This has been answered extensively over the last few days comments.

      • fivebobbill says:

        Give them a call Don, they refunded the £75 fee on my Hilton Barclaycard Visa just a few days ago.

  • lumma says:

    OT-IHG Credit Card, how long does it take for the sign up bonus for the Creation card to hit my IHG account?

    • Grant says:

      You’ll see the points in your creation account as you as you meet the spend requirements and they are transferred over to IHG around the time of your statement date.

  • LewisB says:

    OT: Broken headrest on my LHR-JFK flight yesterday, any past experience of avios being paid with a complaint?

    • TGLoyalty says:

      Did the cabin manager not take your details and offer anything straight away?

      Probably get offered 5k perhaps as much as 15k. Do you have pics?

      • LewisB says:

        No. She apologised and said it’s a 23 year old aircraft and will make a note in the book. She took my seat number but didn’t ask for detaiks. I have pictures. Would be happy with 10k avios.

    • Shoestring says:

      loads

      in Business quite generous, headrest not so awful but 5-10K??? in PE/ E rather less

      you could look at the FT thread for this, gives current levels of BA service recovery

  • TGLoyalty says:

    What I like is that he is picking arguments with cabin crew / BA staff that work on the A350

  • Brighton Belle says:

    OT Have been using my Diners Club / Cornercard to pay HMRC. Finally the card gets blocked for security. Phone customer services at Diners to find they are closed until Monday. I thought Creation were bad but no customer service at weekends is useless. Jan31 to satisfy our glorious Chancellor is looking ambitious without plan B at Tesco’s Bank

  • damo76 says:

    O/T – I have just got my first IHG credit card free night voucher. is there an easy way to check for availability dates for redemptions at a particular hotel? Also, are there any hotels (e.g. those with high points redemption value) that are excluded from the free night voucher?

    • BLT says:

      The UK IHG free night can be used at any hotel with reward night availability AFAIK

      • Rob says:

        Not Regent, not the ‘Alliance’ casino hotels. Rest should be ok.

        • Matt says:

          Rob I’ve said this a few times now but you can use the voucher at the Venetian/Palazzo. I did it last year.

    • Anna says:

      Yes very easy, go to the IHG website and search for the hotel and date you want!

    • Lyn says:

      Sometimes if you select reward nights and happen to pick a date when a reward night is NOT available IHG will show you a calendar of when reward nights ARE available. I’m not sure which hotels this works for, but I’ve seen it for an IC where I was searching for reward availibilty.

    • damo76 says:

      Thanks all

  • Riccatti says:

    Back to BA and QR joint venture,

    Good point on Australia-leading passenger traffic being directed via Doha.

    Not only Qantas, but CX will be less happier — will give it more reason to move towards Delta/Skyteam. Such outcome would give Skyteam certain ‘dominance’ over China and Korea and some SE Asia (with Garuda being Skyteam and Malaysia being invested into by Delta).

    Perhaps CX should think about joint ventures of their own.

    If travelling to Australia, a leisure traveller will make a holiday in SE Asia/HKG/BKK/Singapore. Regional business class redemptions — CX already releases more seats to own program Marco Polo, but not Avios redemption.

    • Riccatti says:

      P.S. The deal will have a hard time to pass Australian regulator though, even without Sydney it is borderline throw out case.

      Why would one agree to a deliberate push in competition reduction. What is the benefit to Australia — it doesn’t seem to increase traveller numbers, just re-routes them. It bypasses flag carrier Qantas — both via Doha and giving it less traffic domestically. The very worst case Qatar Airways can say it will reduce the business — but that’s not going to happen.

      Departures from Sydney international never were a busy affair — yes Qantas international business lounge is more zoo than BA Galleries but airport itself is not crowded, even as departures tend to be clustered in time.

      • Bails from Oz says:

        Qantas has deliberately ignored international travellers departing Adelaide, so too bad for them. There are already many International airlines with daily services ex ADL already, including Qatar, CX and SQ, so Qantas wisely isn’t trying to compete with their sub-par, but over-priced offerings. I think a JV between QR and BA wouldn’t make much difference except some people would feel more secure with a BA tie-in.

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