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Review: the Principal York hotel – fool me once, fool me twice

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This is our review of the Principal York hotel. This hotel is part of IHG and IHG One Rewards despite being unbranded.

(EDIT: The Principal York hotel left IHG in October 2022.)

Two years ago I had a terrible stay at the Principal York hotel. I didn’t write about it because we weren’t actually in the hotel for long and didn’t experience much apart from the awful rooms we were given as top tier members of IHG Rewards. I had a chat with the GM, compensation was paid (a full refund for both of the rooms we booked) and I got on with my life.

Until last week.

Review Principal York hotel exterior

You can learn more about the hotel, and book, on its website here.

On a family stay in York back in April we made sure we avoided the Principal and headed to the nearby Hampton instead. However, this time my wife wasn’t there (I can’t risk divorce by taking her back to the Principal) and I was lured back because I needed to catch an early morning train. The Principal is literally attached to York Station.

As the GM told me herself two years ago – to paraphrase, since I can’t remember the exact words – ‘we have five star public areas but we don’t have five star rooms and this causes us huge problems’. This is true. IHG knows it too, which is why it can’t rebrand Principal York – it doesn’t make sense for any of the core brands to take it on.

The back story

Principal York came into IHG when it acquired 13 UK hotels, including the Principal and De Vere brands, from Starwood Capital in 2018.

Starwood Capital had been buying up historic UK hotels and throwing huge amounts of money at them. Once bought by IHG, Principal London became Kimpton Fitzroy and Principal Manchester became Kimpton Clocktower.

Principal Edinburgh Charlotte Square and Principal Blythswood Square Hotel Glasgow also became Kimpton hotels, whilst Principal Cardiff became the first voco in the Europe. Principal Edinburgh George Street returned to being an InterContinental, the brand it had until 2015.

Starwood Capital had made a tactical error though. It was buying up old, often Victorian, hotels with tiny rooms, and leaving them tiny. The base rooms at Kimpton Fitzroy are probably the smallest of any luxury hotel in London. You can spend all the money you want on fancy public spaces but when your guests get to their expensive room and find that it is virtually no bigger than the bed, things aren’t going to end well.

Principal York doesn’t have air conditioning in many rooms which, I believe, is a brand standard for Kimpton – the most natural brand home for this hotel. Principal Manchester had it retrofitted to allow it to be rebranded.

Principal York has astonishing interiors

Let’s be clear about this. The public areas of Principal York are probably in the Top 5 of all UK hotels outside London. It is astonishingly well done, from the antique suitcases scattered around reception to the lovely new conservatory / restaurant and the beautiful library / afternoon tea room. Even the staircase is one of the most impressive in any UK hotel. See:

Review Principal York hotel lobby

and

Review Principal York hotel tea room

and

Review Principal York hotel lobby

and

Review Principal York hotel tea room

It’s hugely impressive.

Rooms at the Principal York hotel

The rooms are where it falls apart. For a start, the hotel has an astoundingly ugly modern extension with additional rooms in it. This is beyond hope and should be demolished. The only upside is that a lot of hotel guests won’t actually realise that the extension is part of the hotel because it is separated by function rooms.

Base rooms in the main historic building are small and dark based on my experience and should be avoided. The hotel won’t upgrade you out of these, however high your status, based on what happened to me two years ago.

This time, though, I had a plan. I booked a Junior Suite. The price difference over a base room was modest (the Junior Suite was £152, base rooms were £110+) and just look at what you get, based on these two pictures from the hotel website:

Review Principal York hotel junior suite

and

Review Principal York hotel junior suite

Except, this is what I got:

Review Principal York hotel bedroom

Hmmm. I went back to reception and pointed out the disparity. I also pointed out that my room looked surprisingly like the pictures of a Premium Room on the hotel website.

It seemed to me that I had been downgraded without my knowledge, although the hotel claimed that my room was a Junior Suite just like the one in the top two images above. This is despite the fact that the hotel’s own website claims that all junior suites have a ‘lounge seating area’ which mine didn’t.

What was weirder was that ihg.com showed two Juniors Suites and two full suites (why was I not upgraded to one of those anyway, as a Diamond Elite?) still available for sale.

Unfortunately, my son had taken away my bargaining power by going straight to sleep as soon as we got into the room. By the time I’d done my digging into what I’d been given vs what was available, it was too late to move. Suffice it to say that – for my second stay running – an acceptable financial and non-financial settlement was reached ….

The rest of my room

Let’s quickly run over the rest of the room. I had no complaints about the bed, although the sole USB socket was broken:

Review Principal York hotel bed

There was no coffee machine, which is a little odd for a ‘suite’ (if indeed this was a junior suite), but you got a kettle and a pot of teabags etc. I did like the ‘coffee bags’ supplied which were a marked step up from sachets. A couple of bags of crisps were also provided for free.

The minibar, not pictured, contained a bottle of IHG-branded water in a refillable glass bottle.

The bathroom wasn’t bad except for the single sink:

Review Principal York hotel bathroom

and

Review Principal York hotel shower

Toiletries were branded ‘Antipodes’ in large refillable containers. Everything was marked ‘blackcurrant’ which was a little odd – I’m not sure if people want their hair smelling of blackcurrant …..

For some reason the wardrobe was tucked in a little corridor inside the room, instead of facing the bed:

Review Principal York hotel wardrobe

If your room is in the main historic building, and front facing, you will have a view of York Minster and the small park in front of the hotel:

Review Principal York hotel view

Wi-Fi

I should mention the wi-fi. It was terrible. By far the worst hotel wi-fi I have had in many years.

For the bulk of my stay I had just one ‘bar’ showing on my laptop, and ended up having to tether my mobile phone in order to get any work done. My son had similar issues with his Nintendo Switch. It simply isn’t good enough in 2022.

Breakfast at the Principal York hotel

Breakfast is free to Diamond Elite members if you select it at check-in as your Welcome Amenity. York is relatively cheap in terms of hotel pricing so getting two breakfasts thrown in is, proportionately, a big saving.

The buffet is surprisingly modest – I didn’t ask if the additionally priced cooked items were included for Diamond members but I guess not – but it’s a lovely room. The space operates as a restaurant for the rest of the day.

Review Principal York hotel garden room

What was bizarre was that all of the guests were made to sit in a line by one wall. If you look at the photo above, you would think that the dining room was empty. It wasn’t. However, we’d all been made to sit in a line (out of shot to the right of the picture) – with tiny gaps between the tables – despite this huge space being available. Odd.

Conclusion

I really, really want to like Principal York. I have a soft spot for old railway hotels and a huge sum was spent on the public areas here.

Whilst the base rooms are appalling, I learnt my lesson two years ago and thought that – with a Junior Suite – I’d have a pleasant room to match the public spaces.

Sadly my apparent downgrade (for clarity, the hotel continues to insist that the two rooms pictured above are both Junior Suites despite the huge disparity in size, and it is just a coincidence that my room looks like a Premium Room) meant that it didn’t work out.

Will I now admit defeat and head to the utilitarian Hampton – which is usually pricier than the Principal – next time I need to be very near to the station? Only time will tell …..

The hotel website is here.


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Comments (119)

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  • The Original David says:

    £150 for that looks like a good argument not to holiday in the UK…

    Can’t they brand it as a Voco? Thought that was a conversion brand that it looks like this would fit into fine.

  • Tom says:

    Oh dear, it always makes me laugh when a hotel has more variability within room categories than between them.

    I had exactly the same experience at the Kimpton Barcelona (which everyone raves about, I didn’t really get it) a month ago. Booked a junior suite which shows as large with a sofa in it in photos, but then was allocated a much smaller room which was basically the same size as the biggest premium balcony rooms. It was still a “junior suite” as it has a bathtub in it, ha. Assume it was because I didn’t check in until 9pm and they just gave all the better ones away, but a bit rubbish as a Diamond paying cash. I didn’t push for compensation etc and when I mentioned it on check out I got a “oh ok, we will make sure to give you a larger one next time”. Unsurprisingly, there won’t be a next time! Much better hotels in Barcelona for the same price.

    • BJ says:

      After reading earlier negative comments on Kimpton Barcelona here (perhaps from you) I decided to pass in favour of the Indigo. It will be interesting to see how it goes as the rooms, or at least descriptions, there seem weird too. The largest and most expensive are King Premier rooms which I booked. I will not be surprised if we get downgraded to a suite which are both smaller and cheaper , under the pretence of a Diamond upgrade. The real test if upgrade should be a jet bath as King Premier with jet bath was highest category of room listed (an extra €170 or so per night). I booked this hotel fo 30k/night last week when reward rates dropped, for dates when the cheapest rooms were over €950/night so it’s hard to feel cause for complaint even if I do end up with a lesser room.

      • Tom says:

        I’ve never stayed at the Indigo so curious how it is. EDITION is my favourite, is expensive and also plagued with small rooms if you don’t book a premium room/suite or get an upgrade (not unique in BCN) but the rest of the hotel is good enough that I don’t care. Within IHG, the new IC looks to have nice big rooms for a reasonable price but it is a bit out of the centre. Should have tried that instead of Kimpton, was a lot cheaper too.

        • Harry T says:

          The EDITION is very good. Aside from one night where they didn’t have anything nicer available, I’ve been fortunate enough to wrangle an upgrade to a Loft room there the two times we’ve stayed, which was a good size. We really enjoyed getting anything on the fantastic breakfast menu included because we booked a STARS rate via Emyr. Customer service is excellent. The shared public spaces are very high quality. Location is perfect.

  • Alex G says:

    I stayed in the Royal York for a conference in the 1990s. The firm paid for my first two nights, and I added on a two night leisure stay myself.

    The first night I was in a small room at the back overlooking the station. I didn’t get any sleep because of the station announcements which went on through the night.

    After complaining to reception at the crack of dawn, I was moved to a large room at the front of the hotel overlooking the gardens. The room was beautiful, and I enjoyed the rest of the stay.

    This really is a hotel of two halves. Rob’s experience could have been much worse!

  • Michael says:

    Pretty sure the first voco was on the Gold Coast in Queensland

    • Rob says:

      You’re right, Cardiff was the first in the Northern Hemisphere I think.

  • Jane Hamilton says:

    Stay at The Grand-much nicer hotel within walking distance of the railway station
    It’s our hotel of choice in York

  • Save East Coast Rewards says:

    If they’re not going to attach it to a core IHG brand they should go back to calling it The Royal York Hotel. The hotel was actually branded Le Meridien for a brief period in the early 2000s. It’s been a long time since I stayed here. I can’t remember the year but it was shortly after it stopped being a Le Meridien and was the Royal York Hotel again. I can’t remember thinking anything bad about it but I remember it was cheap. I was impressed how such a well located hotel was such great value.

    Despite its shortcomings I’m surprised you’d consider paying more for a Hampton (although to be fair until recently I would have taken the Hampton over this as I was trying to get the 1000 nights required for lifetime diamond which I have now reached). Surely if the bed is comfortable and there’s a functioning shower then the location and the better public areas will make it a nicer option than yet another Hampton which lacks personality. Based on your reviews I’d not pay a premium for this, I’d take the Hampton if it was cheaper but I wouldn’t pay extra for a Hampton

    • Rob says:

      Hampton York has better rooms.

      • Matt says:

        Hampton is a better hotel as it has quiet rooms and air con. Principal fails at being a hotel because it can’t provide a good nights sleep. On a recent 4 night stay, I checked out of the principal shortly after arriving and got a room at the Hampton. So glad I did. I was working nights and it would have been impossible sleeping in the daytime with the heat and traffic noise.

        • Matt says:

          Also your article reminded me that before I checked out (after trying two different rooms), I’d also been seen off with my diamond status. I was on an expensive rate £175 for low category garden room. No upgrade was given even after I complained about the first room (too hot and noisy). Both rooms I was given were very small, dark and overall a worn dingy vibe. Won’t be returning. Agree the public areas are great.

  • Nick says:

    “What was bizarre was that all of the guests were made to sit in a line by one wall.”

    IMHO, it sounds like the breakfast staff ‘rule to roost’, and have a system that makes it easier for them, rather than comfortable for the guest. I don’t know about anyone else, but, if offered (dictated?) such a table, I’d immediately point to a window table away from everyone else and ask, “can I sit over here please”?

    Not good at all, overall, and I’d suspect that certainly part of the issue is poor management and/or training.

    • Nick says:

      ‘Rule the roost’

    • TimM says:

      I have stayed at three hotels where guests have been kettled together in the restaurant for the convenience of the staff. The first time I obliged. The second time, I asked to speak to the restaurant manager, who politely apologised but explained other areas were reserved for groups, I yielded. The third time, I refused and sat at a good table by the window. The restaurant manager was summonsed to me. I was polite, sympathised that he and his staff were doing their jobs but I was not going to move. I was lucky that they served me.

      To be kettled together is not the English way – we instinctively chose a table to maximise space from others. However we tend to be too obliging, which works against this. Hotel dilemas no. 192.

      • Gordon says:

        I have noticed this happening in hotel restaurants and also in a lot of pub dining areas,
        Us English are reserved and many do not like to complain or cause a fuss, And I think that is taken advantage of.

      • TGLoyalty says:

        Lucky they served you? I’d be talking to the GM!

      • Harry T says:

        Lol I just sit where I want in restaurants, especially at hotels. No one stops me or argues. You gotta practise that restaurant BDE.

    • Matarredondaaa says:

      What often annoys me if dining as a single the staff also try to put you on tint tables often in cramped parts of the restaurant. Always refuse and indicate it is a large table meant for 4 or nothing.

  • NigelthePensioner says:

    The Principal was many things before including part of the Principal Hayley hotel group which were “conference” hotels. Ive have been to a few conferences here (York itself is nice and this is the only hotel that is within a spit of the station. The bedrooms have always been awful.
    Try the Grand or Grays Court next time for a city “centre” hotel that has a bit of class and comfort!

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