Fly British Airways Club World on short haul – or fly Titan

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• flyforfun says:

  5 Feb5 February 13:13

  …. or you might end up on Titan Airways…

  Well, how about if you end up on “China North”. Booked a work trip from LCY to AMS on the company Egencia site. When toggling through Economy Basic to Plus and up the rest of the options including Business fares on the RHS of the screen, for a second, it shows BA8XXX operated by China North. before disappearing.

  I dare say this has something to do with Egencia’s website, but it would be quite a scary thought if I rocked up to the tarmac and saw a China North plane there!

  • Sean says:

    5 Feb5 February 21:50

    China Northern hasn’t existed for about 15 years now. While BA has codeshares with China Southern you don’t have to worry on AMS-LCY. Most likely it’s just a site error as the flight should be BA Cityflyer.

• JG says:

  5 Feb5 February 13:33

  Is it definite that the Club World cabin is open on these flights – weren’t there previous cases of CE passengers being placed in WTP? As a Silver EC member I’m getting error messages when trying to reserve seats on the DUB flights, which is a bit concerning.

  • JonathanC says:

    5 Feb5 February 13:45

    Too many other HfP readers almost certainly trying to do the same thing might be the best guess !

  • SG says:

    5 Feb5 February 14:51

    I have just booked to Berlin on 4 March and when seat selection came I was shown Club Suite 1-2-1 seat Map

  • TGLoyalty says:

    5 Feb5 February 15:50

    You could get either.

  • SonicStar817 says:

    5 Feb5 February 16:14

    The Club cabin will be used mainly. The only time the WTP cabin gets used is if the main Club cabin is full and there’s no F cabin to move people forward.

    • JG says:

      5 Feb5 February 16:31

      Update: seeing a 14 seat (all forward facing) 4 row cabin, rows numbered 1-4 with two toilets aft, all seats greyed out and unable to select any. 4 seats per row apart from row 3 which has 2 seats. Can’t seem to match this up with any seating plan? Perhaps in this seating roulette I have ended up in F… I could call of course but that would spoil the anticipation 🙂

    • Jonathan says:

      6 Feb6 February 00:13

      When I flew on BA2547/6 this time last year, I got seated in a WTP seat, even though BA were only selling CE/ET tickets

• Richie says:

  5 Feb5 February 13:45

  Will Airbus bother with replacing A330 with something ‘all new’ and better than B787, perhaps with SH versions?

  • G says:

    5 Feb5 February 15:00

    The A350-1000 says hi.

    • Richie says:

      5 Feb5 February 17:58

      I’m thinking of an aircraft with 2-4-2 seating in economy with narrow aisles, so smaller than A35O and B787.

  • AJA says:

    5 Feb5 February 16:20

    Isn’t that what the A330 neo is? An upgrade on the original A330 with engines more comparable with the 787? The first A330 Neo flight was only in 2017, and TAP was the launch airline with its first delivery in Dec 2018 so its only been flying commercially for 4 years.

    • Richie says:

      5 Feb5 February 17:54

      It’s not an ‘all new’ aircraft.

• Ray says:

  5 Feb5 February 16:22

  Why is it you cannot use one of these planes on your LHR to LCA routes. Although you charge for business class on this trip the seats offered are on where near business standard. I am a regular user but will.never pay your premium price for cattle class seats

  • Rob says:

    5 Feb5 February 16:24

    Royal Jordanian is a better option to Larnaca if you want a flat bed, albeit you’ve got the change in Amman.

    • Jonathan says:

      5 Feb5 February 17:56

      I flew CAI to AMM, and when I walked through to my seat, I looked at the business class offering, and said to myself ‘that’s a proper business class seat, and they’re definitely not following BA’s joke card offering’
      Since the flight was only about an hour or so I wasn’t fused by flying in economy, and the complimentary catering was also good.

      I don’t know how good other airlines are with their short haul business class offerings, let’s hope they’re not as bad as BA who seem to think they’re competing with the likes of Ryanair, but charging an absolute fortune !

      • Hardpack says:

        5 Feb5 February 19:27

        Lufthansa seating on similar routes just the same. Maybe better food offering but I’ve found flight times terribly inconvenient eg overnight

    • tony says:

      6 Feb6 February 09:20

      I fail to see how something with an overnight 10+ hr layover in both directions can in any way, shape, or form be seen as a better option here. If RJ could coordinate this part of the schedule however, I think they would be onto a winner…

      I was never a fan of Monarch, but those extra legroom seats they had up front were a great call – even better if you could keep the middle seat empty.

• Ghosty says:

  5 Feb5 February 16:40

  Are the Titan flights still classed as BA flights regarding tier points, especially the double points for BA holidays and part of the 4 BA flights required for silver

  • Rob says:

    5 Feb5 February 17:35

    Yes

• Davey says:

  5 Feb5 February 21:05

  Booked x2 seats Berlin 4th March. Shame no Avios availability to return the next day with BA! Not sure i’m brave enough to return on the same aircraft and return straight back.

• Ian says:

  5 Feb5 February 22:24

  What’s the current situation for UK passport holders arriving at Frankfurt? I’ve heard stories that immediately post-Brexit there were lots of cases of interrogations about the reason for your visit…is that still the case?

  • Hardpack says:

    5 Feb5 February 22:32

    It depends who the border agent is. Some of them want you to know that you’re having to queue due to Brexit which they don’t understand, most just stamp and you go through, maybe a question about how long is your stay. Nothing too onerous

• JDB says:

  5 Feb5 February 22:44

  It’s difficult to understand the moaning about BA service on these medium haul routes. If you book Club Europe, that’s exactly what you will get and there should be no surprise on board. Yes, you can say that you would have preferred beds, caviar and a some big TV screen, but that’s not what you booked or were given to expect. If other airlines provide that and that’s what you want, book with them.

  • Hardpack says:

    6 Feb6 February 02:13

    The point is, 2-3 hours on those hard seats is very different to 5. If you’ve not done it before, you realise it’s a very different experience CE for 2 vs over 5 hours. Then you know from experience for next time that there’s a better choice.

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