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(IT ERROR) Has British Airways cut the tier points earned in Qatar Airways business class? (No)

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EDIT: I’ve now been able to have a chat with BA about this. Even though some other oneworld airlines have reduced the earnings rate on Qatar Airways Business Light tickets, this is an IT error which will be corrected ASAP. All Qatar Airways flights remain at 140 tier points.

This isn’t great news if true, especially for a lot of people who already hold tickets.

According to ba.com, the tier points you earn on discounted Qatar Airways business class flights have been cut by 35%.

If correct, this will have a serious impact on people who were travelling to Asia and beyond on Qatar Airways to knock up some easy tier points.

British Airways cuts tier points earning on cheap Qatar airways flights

Historically – and this applies to all partner airlines, not just Qatar Airways – any flight between 2,000 and 6,000 miles in business class earns 140 tier points in British Airways Executive Club. Shorter flights earn just 80 tier points, longer flights earn 160 or 240 tier points.

This meant that any flight from the UK to, say, Asia would require 4 x 2,000+ mile flights. You had UK to Doha, Doha to (say) Bangkok, Bangkok to Doha and Doha to the UK.

You would pick up 560 tier points in just one return trip. Remember that you only need 600 tier points to earn British Airways Executive Club Silver status, albeit that you need to take four British Airways cash flights too.

Get your timing right and you could get almost two years of Silver status on the back of a business class holiday in Asia, flying arguably the best business class product in the world. Who could argue with that?

What has changed with tier points on Qatar Airways flights?

The British Airways Avios and tier point calculator is here.

This is what ba.com is now showing for any 2,000 to 6,000 mile flight on Qatar Airways:

British Airways cuts tier points on Qatar Airways

You will see that a new category of ‘Business low’ has been added. This only earns 90 tier points each way.

It also earns just 1 Avios per mile flown.

This has completely upended the entire Executive Club tier point earning system. I can’t see any other oneworld partners with a similar 90 tier points category.

Your return trip from the UK to Bangkok will now only get you 360 tier points instead of 560 tier points, leaving you a long way from Silver.

However …. look at the top line. This is clearly a mistake, with ‘Economy lowest’ showing 90 tier points. So is the whole chart wrong?

For comparison, this is what ba.com shows if you fly London to Doha on British Airways:

British Airways tier points to Doha

Basically, the BA World Traveller Plus rate of 90 tier points is what BA is now applying to Qatar Airways flights in discounted business class.

Amusingly, if the chart is correct for Qatar Airways, you now earn more Avios in British Airways World Traveller Plus than you’d earn in Qatar Airways business class on a discounted ticket.

Note that this only applies to Business Light cash tickets on Qatar Airways, which book into ‘P’ class. These tickets have other restrictions, such as no lounge access.

If you are booking business class on Qatar Airways, you will now need to pay a little more to avoid ‘Business Light’. On the upside, this will also get you lounge access.

What happens if I have an existing Business Light booking?

I don’t know.

It is possible that ba.com is wrong and that someone has typed in the wrong data. This has happened before. I wouldn’t panic immediately. The fact that there is an Economy ticket class showing as 90 tier points implies that something is not right.

If it turns out that you will now only earn 90 tier points for Qatar Airways Business Light tickets, I think you have grounds for insisting on 140 tier points per leg based on the rate at the time of booking.

That said, I don’t see BA being generous given that this is a partner booking, and agreeing to this would mean literally 11 months of admin for them until all existing bookings drop out of the system.

Let’s see. If we’re lucky this is just a typo ….


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Comments (40)

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  • AJA says:

    On the upside a booking in I and R class on Qatar earns the same avios as J, C and D on BA.

    I can see the logic of P class earning fewer TP and Avios as it is basically an enhanced Premium Economy fare, specific to Qatar Airways as there is no equivalent P class fare in BA – you get a better seat on a Qatar plane but without the lounge access. Presumably the P class fare is quite a lot cheaper than an R or I class fare?

  • Paul says:

    At every opportunity they nickel and dime

  • JK says:

    I know this is unlikely to be a popular comment, but if this reduces lounge crowding, I can see it as being a win-win for BA. Presumably there isn’t much benefit to them having lounges full of people who have attained cheap TPs, and Qatar has already made clear differentiation on this type of ticket.
    On top of that, there is precedence of sorts, when they dropped AA F from 60 to 40 TP when Premium Economy was introduced.
    I doubt it was a mistake, I doubt it will change back, and I doubt they’ll correct back existing bookings, but we will see.

    • Phillip says:

      I think BA is clearly showing what their resolution is to lounge overcrowding!

      • PeteM says:

        You’d need to get rid of the double TPs for BA Holidays for lounge overcrowding to end, methinks!

    • Jack says:

      The lounges are not overcrowded there is lots of seats within the lounges . Everyone in the lounge has paid some way or another to be there

  • Save East Coast Rewards says:

    Why does Privilege Club do in this situation? If it offers reduced points I can see why BA are following particularly as QR is a major shareholder and also a partner with IAG loyalty. They probably want BA to provide bigger incentives to book proper business class.

    Is AF the only one that uses ‘P’ for their top cabin?

  • VALittleRed says:

    Something is clearly a miss, KUL-SIN on Malaysia Airlines gives Business Lowest earning 60TP whereas regular business earns 40TP, something up with the calculator or it’s all being changed

    • aseftel says:

      Agreed. 90tp in lowest economy – more than full fare Y – surely can’t be right.

      • Erico1875 says:

        To be fair, it is a bit crazy that you can almost earn silver with just one bog standard trip to Asia

        • VALittleRed says:

          Would have agreed with you pre-covid but have you seen the price of QR tickets now, more than justifies nearly getting to Silver now.

      • VALittleRed says:

        Suspect changes on the way, why else would it have been modified, anxious of things to come

  • Ben says:

    Do they not need to do this with the AY low cost business fares too then? Feels like something isnt right…

  • marks7389 says:

    Surely there’s something screwy with the economy lowest entry in the Qatar table… more tier points than economy flexible?

    • marks7389 says:

      Just spotted Rob said that in the article… Yes, that can’t possibly be right which does call the accuracy of the whole thing into question….

  • Ed says:

    I wouldn’t hold your breath on this being a mistake. A lot of OW carriers already (and have done so for a while) differentiate between QR P class and the rest of the Business fare buckets because of its deep discounting level.

    For example:
    – IB treats P class as earning 0.75x Avios and c. 20-30% less tier points than J, C, D, I or R (depending on distance band)
    – CX treats P class as earning 66% less tier points than J, C, D, I or R
    – AY treats P class as having a 75% multiplier versus 125% on J, C, D, I or R

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