Miles & More miles expiry is coming for ex-cardholders – what can you book before Friday?

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• Bagoly says:

  26 Mar26 March 14:16

  If there are two of you, then mileage pooling applies for residents of EU+Switzerland.
  I don’t know whether proof of residence is required, or one just changes the address on their database.

  • Carbonaddict says:

    31 Mar31 March 17:21

    Aargh. Just got email offering extra 6 months validity. As I made a booking last night hoping they will cancel for free.

• NFH says:

  26 Mar26 March 15:07

  I have nearly 300,000 miles, of which around 150,000 will expire on 31st March 2023. I can’t find any availability for bookings on any route. It is disingenous of Miles & More to expire miles before making sufficient seats available for booking.

  • Rob says:

    26 Mar26 March 15:15

    Just looked at SeatSpy and, for eg, FRA-JFK is available on at least 80% of dates (Business) over the next year.

    Dubai, on the other hand, has literally nothing from August to January in Business from Frankfurt. SWISS has one day in the next year (12th May) when you can fly to Dubai in Business.

    What I find off is that LH is currently THE most aggressive EU airline for discounting (Dubai is regularly offered at £999 from the UK in Business for eg) but reward availability is thin even though – factoring in the surcharges – the revenue to LH must be identical.

    • TGLoyalty says:

      26 Mar26 March 15:37

      Any idea which routes actually have first class from FRA? Also seems going from Munich opens up awards that don’t exist from FRA even when there’s a FRA connection unless Seatspy has errors.

    • NFH says:

      26 Mar26 March 16:17

      Thanks, but JFK is far more convenient from LHR rather than taking an extra hop to FRA.

      I was looking more at Singapore or for flights that are never direct from the UK such as TAP Air Portugal to its many destinations in northern Brazil, but I couldn’t find anything.

      • TGLoyalty says:

        26 Mar26 March 16:43

        When you’re about to get nothing then sometimes you have to take something

      • Arkadio says:

        26 Mar26 March 19:06

        Try different airport of origin. I had some flights to EZE and GRU from AMS.

      • NFH says:

        27 Mar27 March 18:25

        I managed to book LHR-MUC-SIN-LHR in business class by phoning them. LH outbound, SQ return. They told me that it can be amended as long as the origin and final destination airports remain the same. Intermediate airports and airlines can be changed.

• AndrewM says:

  26 Mar26 March 16:46

  I converted my Miles to Tesco vouchers by connecting Miles and More with Heathrow Rewards. Not amazing, but was better than the Miles expiring.

• Concerto says:

  26 Mar26 March 17:25

  My next post also concerns flight redemptions at M&M. Like BA, they can have real value if booking on partner airlines away from the Lufthansa Group. I’ve done a couple of redemptions on SAS which were really great. But the best value for them was on intra Asian flights for example, in both Economy and Business. You can also redeem on all sorts of obscure airlines, like I did with Air Do, the airline of Hokkaido which is also an affiliate of ANA All Nippon Airways. I believe that they can be a good deal on Ethiopian Airways flights too, although I’ve never tried.

  Another great use of them is on domestic US flights which have very low to nonexistent taxes. This would obviously be on UNITED and their regional affiliates and you can book itineraries with more than one segment per direction without having to redeem more miles (unlike with BAEC). Under current rules these tickets would be fully flexible too (changes free of charge) within the 1 year validity period, although cancellations are charged at the standard €50 rate.

  Lastly, given that we’ve got very little time now, there is a bit of a trick you can employ that can extend the miles a bit. It’s worth considering if you’ve got a lot of them (someone mentioned having around 100,000 of them). Make a booking for a date later this year and if you find something you want to change it to (different zone,. different routing) just cancel it. If you do it on the phone, the agent can recredit your expired miles for a short time (I’ve heard reports that they can last until the end of the month, or just a day or two). While you’re on the phone get the same agent to book the new desired itinerary, because otherwise the chances of the miles disappearing completely are rather high. At least this variant will buy you a bit more time for making a redemption.

  • A N Wilson says:

    26 Mar26 March 21:06

    Very interesting – thank you. Do you or does anyone else have experience of booking a business class or first class around the world ticket using large quantities of M&M miles…? How…? Isn’t there some good flexibility on those tickets…? I have 600,000 expiring this week and feel utterly let down by M&M given a) no communication with me re the latest UK credit card situation and intention not to extend mileage validity; b) apparent lack of availability of reward flights; c) recent switch-off of Cash & Miles booking option on 13 March; and d) switch-off of LoyLogic fee-based mileage extension functionality. Absolutely amateurish and a blatant redemption optionality reduction exercise that is absolutely infuriating when UK customers cannot get a credit card to protect their miles…! Help!

    • His Holyness says:

      26 Mar26 March 22:32

      600k is a lot. There’s availability on BOS in F for the next few weeks.

      • A N Wilson says:

        27 Mar27 March 00:12

        Thanks. But how are you uncovering that availability…? It’s not appearing on SeatSpy…

  • Bagoly says:

    26 Mar26 March 22:57

    Ethiopian is good.
    And your point about pricing by region rather than sectors is very relevant for getting to hard-to-reach places.
    I once did Berlin-Istanbul-Asmara (Turkish) and Asmara-Addis-Vienna-Berlin (Ethiopian & Austrian) in Business for 70k + EUR270.
    The only way to leave Asmara other than in the middle of the night.

    There’s also Eurowings, which flies to places more people might want to go for holidays (E.g. Mombasa and Zanzibar)

• Concerto says:

  27 Mar27 March 08:03

  I think that RTW tickets are not such a great use of miles. I’ve found it better to just piece together itineraries as a series of one ways. I think LH don’t make it easy to book such tickets.

• tical says:

  27 Mar27 March 18:05

  Is Egypt Air any good? Judging by comments on-line not really but they do have availability with Miles and More to Dubai on most days

  • Rob says:

    27 Mar27 March 18:21

    I’d be OK with it BUT look closely at aircraft types which move around between short haul and long haul.

• elguiri says:

  29 Mar29 March 10:18

  If you are converting to Tesco vouchers, be aware that although it shows a 10% discount for them, this isn’t automatically applied. You have to type in ‘202303MAR10’ at the last stage and click apply.
  This also means that you probably need to add in more gift cards than originally selected as it would have told you you didn’t have enough miles beforehand…

• Paul Benny says:

  31 Mar31 March 15:21

  Just received an email extending expiry for another 6 months.

  • Xmenlongshot says:

    31 Mar31 March 16:25

    Same – good call by Lufthansa – I’m grateful

  • A N Wilson says:

    2 Apr2 April 10:13

    What e-mail address is that message from …?Don’t seem to be getting these…. But the expiry date has vanished from my account which is a massive relief….

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