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Review: Is Marriott Bonvoy the best hotel loyalty scheme? (Part 2)

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In my previous article, I outlined ‘the facts’ of the Marriott Bonvoy loyalty scheme. This article is my personal opinion, highlighting areas where I think you might want to focus.

The full series of articles can be found here:

The 10-second summary:

Strong points – big global network, decent benefits for Platinum and Titanium members, excellent luxury options, good earning ability via credit cards, good Marriott Moments redemptions, lots of airline transfer partners, 4pm guaranteed check-out as Platinum, decent redemption availability, ability to book premium rooms as redemptions

Weak points – partially revenue-based redemptions, regular promotions unexciting, mid-market hotels often uninspiring, benefits vary brand-by-brand (and there are over 30 now)

Is Marriott Bonvoy the best hotel loyalty scheme?

The longer version:

Let’s start with a simple statement of fact.  When Marriott acquired Starwood Hotels & Resorts in 2016, everyone in the industry – including myself – assumed they would gut Starwood Preferred Guest and merge it into the ‘dull as ditchwater’ Marriott Rewards programme.  In fact, with Marriott growing by 30% via the deal, we thought it would lead to Marriott Rewards getting even worse – after all, when you have a hotel on every corner, who needs a good loyalty scheme?

We were wrong.  In general, Marriott Bonvoy retained most of the best bits of Starwood Preferred Guest and ditched most of the bad bits of Marriott Rewards.  Not everything, of course, but most of it.  It worked out better than most of us had hoped.

It’s a long term game, of course.  At the point the programmes merged, the most luxurious hotels in the portfolio were just 60,000 points per night.  We now have revenue-based redemption pricing which sees top hotels going for double that.

Redemption sweet spots

I came into Marriott Bonvoy with one million points, once the Starwood balances from myself and my wife had been converted and merged.  Luckily I have been finding good uses for them.

As a man with two children, the ability to book larger rooms for a cash co-pay at many hotels is excellent.  At JW Marriott Venice, for example, we have (four times now) booked a Junior Suite for €200 or so on top of the standard room points price.  This gives us a huge space where we can easily get two rollaway beds.  You can’t do this with Hilton or IHG unless you negotiate directly with the hotel – your only option is to book two rooms, albeit Hilton does now let you book guaranteed connecting rooms.

Marriott Bonvoy review

We have also had some excellent value out of redemptions using Suite Night Awards (now Nightly Upgrade Awards) which are available to Platinum and Titanium members.  This included two stays at The St Regis New York (where even a standard room was over $1,000 and I was given suites worth $2,500+) and The University Arms in Cambridge which is relatively cheap for points and is a lovely hotel. These upgrades can’t be confirmed at the time of booking but will clear three days before arrival, which isn’t idea but better than turning up not knowing what will happen.

We’ve also enjoyed some unique Bonvoy properties in the Middle East, such as the two The Ritz Carlton resorts in Ras Al Khaimah. Al Hamra Beach which is reviewed here, remains an excellent option for an uber-quiet beach resort with amazing accommodation and you can combine it with a couple of nights at Al Wadi in the desert. I finally made it to Al Maha in the Dubai desert too.

You can argue that The Langley in Iver (and, before it left Marriott in December 2021, Turnberry in Scotland) is the best UK regional hotel from any chain which is bookable on points.

Marriott Moments

I will, I’m sure, continue redeeming for Marriott Moments ‘experiences’ redemptions.  I have enjoyed a number of great concerts in the Marriott box at the O2 in Greenwich as well as various sporting events. Last year we took over the box for one of the Elton John concerts to treat HfP readers.

There were also events such as a private meal at Clare Smyth’s Notting Hill restaurant.  I even managed to squeeze in a private Jamie Cullum concert for about 200 guests once when on holiday in Dubai.  If you never want to see another hotel room again, you can redeem for some great stuff here.  The Manchester United partnership has expanded the options even further.

Status benefits

The benefits of Marriott Bonvoy are more confusing than is necessary.  I mean …. I managed to get a full article out of explaining how the elite member breakfast benefit works by hotel brand.  You don’t need to do that with IHG One Rewards – if you are Diamond Elite you get full breakfast at all hotels, full stop.

Marriott Bonvoy review

Platinum Elite status with Marriott Bonvoy is the sweet spot, giving you executive lounge access, free breakfast at most brands and a guaranteed 4pm check out at most hotels.  This requires 50 nights per year, so fewer than Hilton Diamond – albeit it is swings and roundabouts, because Hilton Diamond can be done with either 60 nights or 30 stays. Hilton Diamond doesn’t give guaranteed late check-out.

You can get Marriott Bonvoy Gold Elite status for free by applying for an American Express Platinum charge card.  Gold Elite is, unfortunately, not hugely useful.

A better approach is to get the Marriott Bonvoy American Express cardThis comes with 15 elite night credits annually, which is a good return on your £95 card fee.  This means you only need to do 35 nights per year to lock in Platinum Elite status.

As well as earning 2 Bonvoy points per £1 via the Marriott Bonvoy American Express (6 per £1 at Marriott hotels) you can also convert American Express Membership Rewards points. You get the equivalent of 1.5 Bonvoy points per £1 spent.

Airline miles are a good alternative to free nights

Marriott Bonvoy is a good scheme even if you don’t want to redeem for hotel stays. What many people don’t realise is that Marriott Bonvoy is often the only non-flying way to earn airline miles in specific niche programmes if you live in the UK.

There are 40 airline partners.  The Marriott Bonvoy American Express is really an Aeroplan Amex, an Air New Zealand Amex etc etc if you send your points across.  You are getting the equivalent of 1.25 miles per £1 in most schemes if you convert in chunks of 60,000 Bonvoy points.

You can criticise the relatively weak Marriott Bonvoy bonus point promotions, although they have looked better in comparison since IHG One Rewards started cutting back on bonuses.  On the other hand, Bonvoy has partnerships with United Airlines, Singapore Airlines and Emirates which allow members to double dip if they have the right status level.  Titanium Elite members even get free Silver status in Unted MileagePlus, which covers all of Star Alliance.

You can also redeem Marriott Bonvoy points directly for cash flights on any airline, which is not as bad a deal as you may expect.

Conclusion

Marriott Bonvoy kept more of Starwood Preferred Guest than we could realistically have hoped.  What was a second-rate loyalty programme is now an attractive one, especially as Starwood brought with it a stream of luxury hotels which has massively increased Marriott’s presence in the sector.

I have historically valued Marriott Bonvoy points at 0.5p.  Even with the move to revenue based redemptions, the 3 : 1.25 conversion rate into airline miles gives Bonvoy points a floor value of 0.4p if you value airline miles at 1p.

You can find out more about the programme on the Marriott Bonvoy website here.


How to earn Marriott Bonvoy points and status from UK credit cards

How to earn Marriott Bonvoy points and status from UK credit cards (April 2024)

There are various ways of earning Marriott Bonvoy points from UK credit cards.  Many cards also have generous sign-up bonuses.

The official Marriott Bonvoy American Express card comes with 20,000 points for signing up, 2 points for every £1 you spend and 15 elite night credits per year.

You can apply here.

Marriott Bonvoy American Express

20,000 points sign-up bonus and 15 elite night credits each year Read our full review

You can also earn Marriott Bonvoy points by converting American Express Membership Rewards points at the rate of 2:3.

Do you know that holders of The Platinum Card from American Express receive FREE Marriott Bonvoy Gold status for as long as they hold the card?  It also comes with Hilton Honors Gold, Radisson Rewards Premium and MeliaRewards Gold status.  We reviewed American Express Platinum in detail here and you can apply here.

The Platinum Card from American Express

40,000 bonus points and a huge range of valuable benefits – for a fee Read our full review

You can also earn Marriott Bonvoy points indirectly:

and for small business owners:

The conversion rate from American Express to Marriott Bonvoy points is 2:3.

Click here to read our detailed summary of all UK credit cards which can be used to earn Marriott Bonvoy points

(Want to earn more hotel points?  Click here to see our complete list of promotions from the major hotel chains or use the ‘Hotel Offers’ link in the menu bar at the top of the page.)

Comments (27)

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  • Harry T says:

    Also worth mentioning that in Europe, the Middle East, and Australia (Asia too but I haven’t been recently) you are treated very well as a higher elite (Plat plus). I have lost count of the comp suite upgrades I’ve had as Platinum, Titanium and Ambassador. When I’ve stayed as IHG and Hilton Diamond, I’ve not seen a suite, even with a little good natured nudging. As a higher marriott elite, I’ve also seen a lot of unprompted welcome gifts, including bottles of bubbly and sweet treats. Memorably, I was once upgraded to a full villa at Domes of Elounda for a week long stay (from the base room) and the hotel filled an entire kitchen table with food and beverage options. Recently at the W Amsterdam, I was given the whirlpool suite and a welcome gift of chocolates and sparkling wine; as well as another bottle of bubbly and a cake for my birthday during the stay.

    Of course, you will be treated like dog excrement in the US as a higher Marriott elite, but that applies to all the chains.

    • Optimus Prime says:

      Upgrades are also hit and miss everywhere. I’m Platinum and last summer in South Korea we stayed in JW Marriott Jeju, Westin Josun Busan and Le Meridien Myeondgong.

      Only got a category upgrade in Jeju.

      Then this conversation took place at Busan:
      – Them: “We’ve upgraded you to a room with an ocean view”.
      – Me: “That’s the room I booked”.
      – Them: “…”

      Now I only bother renewing BA status because it’s very easy thanks to the BA Holidays Double TP promotion.

      • Pangolin says:

        SK properties in Bonvoy are notorious for being stingy on upgrades.

  • Matt says:

    I don’t think the airline mile earning rate for the Amex is correct – 1.25 miles/£ was when the card earned 3 Marriott points/£ wasn’t it?

  • His Holyness says:

    You have to hand it to Bonvoy with perception of the status being more valuable than Hilton. Yet, with 15 nights possible from a credit card, plus the latest promo, Platinum is yours with just 18 (17.5) nights.

    • TGLoyalty says:

      If you’re travelling 18 nights in 10 weeks you’re likely to have platinum every year anyway.

      The extra nights might make the diff between that and getting Titanium

    • Rob says:

      Exactly. I got 15 from the card, I reckon I can do 12 by April during double credits (diverting stays I may have sent elsewhere) then I have 8 months to get the 11 remaining. Easy.

      • Omar says:

        Hi Rob,
        BIt late with this question. I have Gold status with MB through Amex but only just joined up so with no stays but a few nights booked in here and there. Am a bit confused at the above. Do I 50 additional nights this year to hit platinum or 25 additional stays? TYIA

        • Rob says:

          50. The Gold status doesn’t help you towards Platinum.

          If you DO want a helping hand, get the Marriott Amex. This comes with 15 elite night credits each year, so you only need 35 nights to hit Platinum.

  • Blair Waldorf Salad says:

    There was a comment yesterday on the part 1 arricle saying guaranteed 4pm checkout is subject to availability. That isn’t right. Wording of that nature does appear on a splash page for a summary of benefits, but it is there to carve out the small numbet of hotels that are not participating in that benefit. It is not suggesting that all hotels can decide whether or not to honour this benefit based on their current availability. As with all schemes, one must look at the full terms and conditions, where 4pm check out is guaranteed. Any hotel failing to adhere to this needs simply to be reported to Marriott HQ while you’re still there, whereupon you must request a case number from the agent. Hotels hate case numbers as they sit open with Marriott awaiting the hotel’s manager to respond.

    • Harry T says:

      Amen!

    • dougzz99 says:

      Do Marriott (or Hilton/IHG) ever take real action against hotels ignoring brand standards?

      • Rob says:

        There are automatic fines whenever a complaint is submitted to HQ.

        • dan_a_man says:

          Id be really keen to read an article about the mechanics of this

          • George K says:

            Yes, also interested in what the correct protocol is when you’re not being given what you’re due. Is calling the helpline to lodge a complaint the first thing you do when the Front Desk is playing games?

    • Wenby says:

      Absolutely agree, it’s subject to availability where convention or resort are exempt. Unless the hotel tries to say they are exempt because they don’t participate in all of the Bonvoy benefits or pretends they are a resort when they defo are not.Where we are simply – Bonvoy’d

    • Wenby says:

      Subject to availability doesn’t mean subject to which hotels participate

  • Algor says:

    ‘As a man with two children, the ability to book larger rooms for a cash co-pay at many hotels is excellent. At JW Marriott Venice, for example, we have (four times now) booked a Junior Suite for €200 or so on top of the standard room points price. This gives us a huge space where we can easily get two rollaway beds. You can’t do this with Hilton or IHG – your only option is to book two rooms, which usually won’t be connecting.’

    I’ve negotiated many times with Conrads and Waldorf Astorias cash upgrades to suites on 5 for 4 standard room redemptions, as long as they were selling suites I’ve never had a problem.

    Also you can guarantee the connected rooms during reservation process on the website (and most likely via reservations call centre), option is not available on the app. This feature been running even before pandemic so whole bit about no option to book connecting rooms is unfair towards Hilton.

  • dan_a_man says:

    Given the global footprint and the Marriott Amex gifts us 15 nights, the program seems to be a no-brainer for me. I have used 4pm checkout loads, which especially at airport hotels is brilliant with a late flight or generally to do some work in peace. Rarely had issues checking in well ahead of 3pm, lounges are better than at Hilton. Luxury portfolio so much more diverse and higher quality than Hilton. And only comparing Hilton because its also fairly easy to obtain with decent benefits outside of US. My preferred route is Platinum at Marriott, Hilton Gold (e.g. with Plat Amex) plus 3 stays at Radisson to get Premium member (such an underrated program for how easy it is to get and I always get a decent upgrade plus regularly 30% off in app) and this is really really easy to obtain even just with holidays. The rest a healthy spread with luxury travel agents.

  • Algor says:

    I just tested to be 100% sure, there is no difference between points and cash while booking connecting rooms.

    Friend of mine told me after seeing this comment you can book on the app on iPhone, but I would never know since have android phones for 8 or 9 years now.

  • Talay says:

    Marriot Bonvoy Amex thresholds

    2 points per £1 spent
    £15k for Gold
    £25k for a free night (up to 25k points)

    So if you spend £25k you get 50k points which would get you about 5 nights in a Moxy in Southampton which retails for about £80 (when about 12k points) so the value returned is circa £400. 50k wouldn’t get you a night in a decent hotel in London, ever.

    Spend £25k on an Avios earning card and you get 37.5k Avios or 47.5k Avios on the BA Accelerating Business Amex. If Avios are valued at 1p, then you have £375 to £475 of value.

    Convert 37.5k Avios to Nectar and you get 50k Nectar which is worth £250 in Sainsburys.

    However, a Qatar Airways flight on my LHR-DOH-BKK run is around £2600 on a moderate day so strip out the £600 for taxes and we have 150k Avios = £2000 and the 37.5k Avios earned from a £25k spend is worth £500 towards a Qatar Airways flight.

    So whilst there is always an alternative to a Marriott and often a Marriott is not good value by comparison to another hotel, I struggle to see how any spending on the Marriott Bonvoy Amex works out better than using a different card unless you need the nights to reach Platinum and you wouldn’t reach Platinum otherwise but strangely need Platinum for Marriott stays ?

    That doesn’t make sense either as if you need it, then you’re staying enough to obtain it anyway.

    • Rob says:

      You don’t need to spend on the card to get the 15 nights.

      There are a LOT of business travellers in the UK who don’t fly for work and don’t see hotel points and air miles as equivalent – they don’t want the miles.

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