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Why you should now book Virgin Points redemptions as 2 x one-way flights

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We are still getting to grips with the mechanics of how the changes to Virgin Points last month actually work in practice.

There is, for example, no agreement on how Virgin Atlantic credit card vouchers should work when upgrading a reward flight. The call centre is refusing to do it when Premium seats are more expensive than Upper. The rules for upgrading a cash flight – which are clear – are totally illogical. We will do an article on these issues at some point.

Today, we want to look at a bigger problem. If you change one leg of a Virgin Points reward flight, BOTH legs are repriced.

I know of two readers who are impacted by this. Here is what one wrote:

The death of my Virgin Points collection has just occurred.

I managed to bag two Upper Class seats to Orlando at 29,000 Virgin Points each way when the new scheme launched. Happy days.

I just went to change the outbound leg to a different date. I understood I would have to pay the difference in points (the seats now are 50,000 points) and the difference in taxes plus a £70 per person fee. I was ok with all that, but no.

If you change the outbound leg of a ticket they will now reprice the whole ticket. The points price of the return flight, which I wasn’t changing, had jumped to 108,000 Virgin Points. Just to change the outbound flight is 21,000 Virgin Points but they added another 79,000 Virgin Points to the return leg. 

This is the end of flexible points fares on Virgin Atlantic.

You’re committing to making no changes unless you want to risk massive points rises on both legs, even the leg you are not changing. 

It’s a very sad day. 25 years of Virgin miles collecting. Needless to say I didn’t make the change. BA here I come.

There is no clarity at the Virgin Atlantic call centre over what is meant to happen. The reader above also tried to separately amend only the inbound leg, to see if that made a difference, but this also triggered a repricing.

However, the other reader who contacted me was told that there was absolutely no problem if you changed the inbound leg. In that scenario, only the return leg would be repriced and not the outbound. This doesn’t seem to be true based on what our first reader experienced.

One thing we don’t know is if Virgin Atlantic will allow return reward flights to be split into two separate tickets. This would allow the outbound to be changed with no impact on the return, because the outbound would become a one-way ticket.

The only way to get around this going forward is to book Virgin Atlantic flight redemptions as 2 x one-way flights. You can then change either leg without the other being repriced. The downside is that you will pay 2 x £70 cancellation fees if you decide not to fly.

Using a credit card voucher will be an issue if you do this, unless two of you are travelling and you apply the voucher to 2 x one-way flights on one leg.

The other issue – there is no realistic ability to change your return

The other key problem with flight changes is the (in practical terms) inability to make a late date change.

As we have shown, there are no (or virtually no) Upper Class Saver seats available within 28 days of departure.

If you are already on your trip or close to departure and want to change the return date, there won’t be a Saver seat available. Unless you are willing to trade your 29,000 to 77,500 points Upper Class Saver seat for potentially a 350,000 points one, you won’t be changing your return.

Booking your trip as 2 x one-way flights gives you a partial way out, although it is hardly ideal. You could cancel the return, get the Virgin Points refunded and use Avios to book a last minute ticket back ….


How to earn Virgin Points from UK credit cards

How to earn Virgin Points from UK credit cards (December 2024)

As a reminder, there are various ways of earning Virgin Points from UK credit cards.  Many cards also have generous sign-up bonuses.

You can choose from two official Virgin Atlantic credit cards (apply here, the Reward+ card has a bonus of 18,000 Virgin Points and the free card has a bonus of 3,000 Virgin Points):

Virgin Atlantic Reward+ Mastercard

18,000 bonus points and 1.5 points for every £1 you spend Read our full review

Virgin Atlantic Reward Mastercard

3,000 bonus points, no fee and 1 point for every £1 you spend Read our full review

You can also earn Virgin Points from various American Express cards – and these have sign-up bonuses too.

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold is FREE for a year and comes with 20,000 Membership Rewards points, which convert into 20,000 Virgin Points.

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold

Your best beginner’s card – 30,000 points, FREE for a year & four airport lounge passes Read our full review

The Platinum Card from American Express comes with 50,000 Membership Rewards points, which convert into 50,000 Virgin Points.

The Platinum Card from American Express

Huge 80,000 bonus points and great travel benefits – for a large fee Read our full review

Small business owners should consider the two American Express Business cards. Points convert at 1:1 into Virgin Points.

American Express Business Platinum

50,000 points when you sign-up and an annual £200 Amex Travel credit Read our full review

American Express Business Gold

20,000 points sign-up bonus and FREE for a year Read our full review

Click here to read our detailed summary of all UK credit cards which earn Virgin Points

(Want to earn more Virgin Points?  Click here to see our recent articles on Virgin Atlantic and Flying Club and click here for our home page with the latest news on earning and spending other airline and hotel points.)

Comments (98)

  • FLCL says:

    As someone who has about 250k of points and can’t seem to ever find a chance to use the points because I don’t want to fly in a upper class cofin, and it’s almost impossible to book other airlines with VS points. What would be the best use?
    I could be wrong, but I’m guessing it’s unlikely any of the below will happen:
    – VS will roll out the new Upper Class to their planes at a much faster pace – especially towards the East
    – VS upgrades their system so that you can book partner airlines
    – Prices becomes reasonable again

    • FLCL says:

      Turns out…it was 320k points…it seems like a lot but from the sounds of things in this post, seems like there’s not much way to use it.

    • Ryan says:

      I have just been asked to pay 350,000 for 1 way x2 from New York to Heathrow, for an upgrade from Premium to Upper Class where on the old scheme it would have cost my 60,000. Point scheme is now pointless

    • patrick says:

      The cruises are great. I have been on three and have booked two more: the real value has gone over the last few years but so has my desire to continue collecting Virgin points.

    • NorthernLass says:

      I’ve had no problem redeeming points on Delta and Aero Mexico, but of course that’s only any use if you’re visiting that region!

  • SaladDodger says:

    LHR-BOM Oneway Premium 25Nov: 35k+£363
    BOM-LHR Oneway Upperclass 2Dec:76k+£493
    Combined total of 2 Oneways is therefore: 111k+£856
    If book same itinerary as a roundtrip: 55k+£627

    Therefore, clearly significantly better value to book as a roundtrip, certainly if you are fixed on dates.

    I think pricing is linked to cash fare, and therefore reduced if you have a Saturday night away, etc.

    • Mark says:

      Interesting (although I’m seeing the inbound taxes and fees as £294, not £493, when booked as a one-way so not quite such a saving). I am seeing the points difference though.

      • SaladDodger says:

        Apologies … You are right the BOM-LHR cash element is £294 (£493 is what upper class LHR-BOM costs).

    • Travel Strong says:

      This seems like a big deal, if this also applies to the rest of the route network

      • Mark says:

        Unfortunately I haven’t noticed it on the routes that I’ve looked at. Not sure if it is a BOM/India thing or related to @SaladDodger’s short notice itinerary, combination of booking classes or some combination but worth further analysis I would have thought.

        • SaladDodger says:

          Not sure it is due to (very) short notice itinerary. See this example:

          LHR-BOM Oneway Upperclass 2Dec: 76k+£493
          BOM-LHR Oneway Upperclass 9Dec (10:35am flight): 57k+£154
          Combined total of 2 Oneways is therefore: 133k+£647
          If book same itinerary as a roundtrip: 66.5k+£632

          A significant point saving booking a return along with a small cash saving.

  • SaladDodger says:

    A non-India example:

    LHR-BOS Oneway Upperclass 27Nov: 96k+£625
    BOS-LHR Oneway Upperclass 8Jan: 47.5k+$470(approx £373)
    Combined total of 2 Oneways is therefore: 143.5k+£998
    If book same itinerary as a roundtrip: 95k+£997

    A significant point saving booking a return with cash cost being the same.

    • memesweeper says:

      Interesting… and bad. Better value one ways is another the hoped-for benefit of redemptions.

  • Neil Slocombe says:

    There is no way of finding out the cost of an upgrade from PE to UC unless you have already booked and paid for the PE flight. Just been quoted 335,000 to upgrade LHR-JFK – long call with the call centre, asked about just upgrading just one leg as not wanting to drop 335,000 on one trip. Each leg 315,000!! Been collecting points 20 years, had lots of free UC flights but it’s lost its gloss.

  • Gerry says:

    All in all, Virgin’s move looks like a disaster from the “loyalty” standpoint. Given VS’s limited footprint, it’s never been easy to be loyal to this airline, and now it’s even clearer than ever there’s no point in trying.

    Probably good for VS in terms of maximizing short term gains (shortsighted though?).
    I would expect people to opportunistically transfer Amex MR points as and when needed to make redemptions (easy, as that’s instantaneous), rather than being loyal to the airline and organically building a bank of miles with a view to redeeming at some point in the future…

  • Steve R says:

    All I can say, there is an excellent brewery near their Wales call centre Felinfoel.

    If one of the people who thought through this new scheme try to arrange their Xmas party I feel sorry for the staff

  • Ross says:

    On a plus – they seem to have aligned the cash element for US outbound. I’ve been booking returns starting UK side to avoid the extra cost and changing the “return” date when finalised as needed for £30ea.

    I just purchased LAS-LHR / LHR-SFO for 55k Premium + voucher for Upper and $1260, same-day departure and return 5 days later. I got lucky – a few days difference would have been 200k+ for premium and the 150k voucher cap would not have been enough!

    I have gone Amex and opened the bank with BA Avios, and moved most spend to the new card as a result of these changes. It’ll be used for individual flights such as this last one where availability aligns but I cannot see any way I’ll use VA points for family trips again. It was fun before point hyperinflation killed it!

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