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British Airways Club World to North America from Dublin from £785ish (AA from £732!)

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EDIT, 20th December: The Hawaii fare quoted this in this article now appear to be gone with the cheapest fare being around £400 more expensive – although still a good deal!

British Airways launched its Winter sale yesterday.  This is valid in all classes for departures from the UK, for bookings until 2nd February.

I am currently looking through the various prices and will have a full article tomorrow.

In the meantime, I want to draw your attention to some amazing Club World fares to North America which have been loaded out of Dublin.

British Airways 350 2

These are only valid for travel over the key holiday periods:

Book by 2nd February 2016

Fly outbound between 19th March and 18th April 2016

or

Fly outbound between 1st July and 31st August 2016

These are some of the prices available:

Dublin to New York – €1,009 (£732) on American direct (a little more on BA via London).  Expedia can route this via Philadelphia on AA for extra tier points.  The screenshot below shows a €1,009 itinerary:

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Dublin to Miami – €1,057 (£767) on AA with a US connection (a little more on BA via London)

Dublin to San Francisco – €1,236 (£897) on AA with a US connection (a little more on BA via London)

Dublin to Chicago – €1,135 (£823) on AA direct (a little more on BA via London)

Dublin to Honolulu (Kahului, Kona also available) – €1,302 (£945) on BA / AA (more creative routings for extra tier points may be available if booked on aa.com)

Other destinations are also available.  There are also some good First Class fares for prices you would usually expect to pay for Club World.

The Honolulu price is especially interesting and could lead to a substantial tier point haul with the right routing.  This article shows how reader Ian got 1,390 tier points for a return business class trip to Hawaii.  For well under £1,000, you can fly to Hawaii and get yourself to within touching distance of British Airways Gold.

If these prices look interesting I suggest clicking through to ba.com and having a look around.  It is also worth searching via Expedia or aa.com as this is more likely to show you odd routing options to maximise tier points.

Remember that you MUST take the first flight from Dublin.  You cannot hop on the plane at Heathrow and skip the first leg – your flight will have been cancelled by then!  You should also try to take the final flight back to Dublin, especially if you have checked baggage.  British Airways is clamping down on allowing passengers to ticket their bags through to London if their flight is ticketed to Dublin.

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Comments

  1. Checking Iberia’s site for flights from Dublin to the US also throws up some interesting options, including on BA and AA.

  2. So actually the cheapest fares are NOT for BA Club World, but rather for AA with their angled-flat beds. Still cheap, though!

  3. OT. BA have reversed the 480 Tesco”bonus” on some of my HH BAEC accounts. Hope they post the correct 4800 now.

  4. Had no problem shortchecking bags from HKG, although I always take the final flight and will do so in the future unless there is an emergency.

  5. Question to all, do you think it’s time to credit all my points and tier status from BA to AA? Your through please.

    • AA is reducing credit earned on BA flights next year. It depends on your mix of cabins and flight distances – some would earn status quicker, others slower.

      No soft landing on AA and harder to earn miles apart from flying. No Reward Flight Saver. Upside is no fuel surcharges on non-BA redemptions.

  6. OT
    Don’t forget that Shop Small ends on Sunday 20th

  7. Quite like to know where you’re getting that exchange rate for Hawaii flights. Seems to be off by a fair margin

    • look on americn airlines website. that’s the price on there in pounds for some dates

      • so it’s not €1302 then? It can’t be both €1302 and £874

        • yes it can I have seen fares as follows,
          AA pricing at 880 pounds
          ba pricing at 1301 euros

          • ha ha cos that’s the same thing. scary logic there

            cheers Raffles, ironically I’ve since found it €1210 so £880 🙂

          • im not saying that 1300 euro is equal to 880pounds, im just saying iv seen both those. both are ridiculously great value. considering these fares will give you over 1000tp and a bucket load of avios

    • Probably punched the wrong number into my phone 🙂

  8. For those that may question or think it is too good to be true, here’s a brief overview of doing the same promotion ex Dublin to Kona Hawaii last year. The fare return Dub/LHR/LA/Kona/LA/LHR/LGW/Dub was £1020 in business class/First. I got a cheapie to Dublin and stayed at the excellent Travel Lodge.
    A380 to LA was great. American to Kona is not great but hopefully they have a new plane. First Class it isn’t.
    During our trip last July H4P ran an article about BA clamping down on these runs so we were a bit worried. At Kona airport they had NO FACILITY for checking the bags through to Dublin. They had to go to LHR so we even didn’t have to ask! We got to LHR picked up our bags and went home. No you’ve been a naughty boy email either. So for me it worked.

    • Err, nowhere in the world is able to check bags through a LHR-LGW transit, which is why if you don’t want to have this bag problem, you deliberately book it like that

    • For newbies….Smart booking, play dumb, collect your bags and just go home! Same for us from NYC. Bottom line is always book your last leg from a DIFFERENT LON Airport. Use multi city/book option. People need to be discreet, read the threads, learn and book. This method has been discussed ad infinitum on previous HFP BA sale articles.

      • That’s no longer good advice. As Rob says, Propeller has felt BA’s wrath on this recently and it is NOT pretty – people doing this will cost him tens of thousands, and possibly hundreds of thousands. AA have invoiced some serial hidden city ticketers, and escorted others to the departure gate for the final leg. When you book on BA it explicitly states that failure to check luggage through to the final destination could create significant additional cost. The idea that it is in any way discreet is a nonsense: BA are well aware of it and they don’t like it.

        If you buy an ex-DUB fare, you should fly an ex-DUB route. Flying from the UK is more expensive for the very reason that people seek to turn ex-EU in to flights returning to the UK. I know I’ll get the “stop making a fuss – what are they going to do about it?” type responses, but we are starting to find out. Stage 1 is BA battering travel agents. Whilst this is ugly for Propeller because he is paying for the actions of his customers, I do have sympathy with BA. Stage 2 could (and, frankly, should) be BA invoicing customers for travelling short.

        • 1nfrequent says:

          I’d be interested to see how BA could invoice a customer for travelling short – they’d be under a common law duty to establish their loss and show how they have attempted to mitigate it. Even if they inserted a contractual clause to recover the difference in fares, they’re leaving themselves open to an UCTA challenge and would again have to establish their loss. All this is not to mention the negative PR they would get for going after individual passengers – there’d be a lot of Daily Mail sad face coupled with unwelcome scrutiny of BA’s pricing and ‘rip off Britain’ headlines.

          • I agree that it’s a bit messy but they’ve already invoiced travel agents for it – it’s not a huge leap to do the same for people who book direct. And I think I read somewhere that AA have already invoiced some customers for the difference under similar circumstances. Train companies fine customers for travelling short – I don’t see why it should be any different for airlines. If a traveller wants to get off in London, he/she should book a shedule that terminates in London really.

            I do agree though, the publicity would be dreadful and would put real focus on the price differential, which might be a bad thing in the long run. Especially if BA have to back down and allow people to travel short.

          • BA sold you a ticket on the basis that you need certain things and you have failed to do those things. You are therefore in breach of contract. It really is that simple. BA does not need to show it has suffered a loss. It only needs to show that the penalty is fair, and since the penalty is the price you would otherwise have paid for the routing you flew, I doubt it can be challenged.

            It is like buying a ticket for Friday and instead turning up on Saturday and expecting to get on the plane. The fact that the plane has empty seats (and so BA could let you fly without suffering any financial loss) has no bearing.

          • There could well be an argument that BA should tell state clearly at booking time the penalties for not getting on any plane at any part of the route.

            Hotels do this, they clearly state the penalty for a no show or cancellation beyond certain dates.

            I think it stinks, in theory at present you could be facing a charge which can be completely fabricated by BA retrospectively. That’s how I would legally challenge it, the ambiguity of the surcharge.

          • They make very clear that there could be a charge if you check your luggage short. And the fee would hardly be a fabrication: they publish the fares for routes ending in London. I’d look at it the other way: i think it stinks that passengers pay for a-c beacause it’s cheaper than a-b, but then fly a-b anyway without paying for it.

        • “If you buy an ex-DUB fare, you should fly an ex-DUB route.”

          I totally agree (and this is from someone who has in the past skipped the SIN-MLE section back in the BMI days).

          The thing is, this game is forever changing and the forecast is you will get stung eventually.

          The wise will heed the warning the rest will be on here sometime in the not too distant future bemoaning the fact that BA have demanded the price difference.

          The writing is on the wall .

      • And don’t use a TA, if your going to do soething that is againt the rules then dont involve someone else that might have to carry the can

    • Oh! Matron! says:

      “excellent Travel Lodge”

      I hope that this is sarcasm…

      The Ghetto would be a better description. One of the worst hotels I’ve EVER stayed in.

  9. How would you go about booking it? I’m trying the HNL fare but it’s coming out as double what was stated?

    • You need to be inside the date ranges above and picking days where the cheap fare classes are still available on all legs. This may be trial and error unfortunately although the price I quoted above came out on my first try.

  10. I’m trying to understand the TPs on the DUB-HNL routing. Is it correct (would book flights through AA) that any flight with only two classes (Economy and First) will receive the First TPs for BAEC and not the Business TP rate (as it would be under a Business class ticket)?

    When I go on the BA TP calculator it shows three classes when I input, for example, LAX-HNL – 140TP for Business and 210TP for First. On the AA website it shows two classes for the respective flight (ie. on a Business ticket I’d be placed in First for that flight).

    • Essentially I’m looking at the following flights with AA, but credited to BAEC (plane in bracket):
      1) DUB-JFK (757)
      2) JFK-LAX (32B)
      3) LAX-HNL (32B)
      4) HNL-PHX (752)
      5) PHX-BOS (321)
      6) BOS-PHL (E90)
      7) PHL-DUB (332)

      The AA website says that (3), (4), (5), (6) are First cabin class. Does that mean I’ll earn the respective First TPs instead of the Business TPs for those legs? (and First Avios?)

      • Correct. If booking an AA flight number you will earn First TP’s and avios.

        DUB-JFK 140TPS
        JFK-LAX 140TPS
        LAX-HNL 210TPS
        HNL-PHX 210TPS
        PHX-BOS 210TPS
        BOS-PHL 60TPS
        PHL-DUB 140TPS

        Total 1110 TPS

        • the JFK/LAX route is a 3 class service (always try and avoid this one if going for maximum TP’s) so you would only get J TP’s because they would put into a business seat not an F seat.

    • I always get confused but on a 2-class I think booking via AA get you F tier points but only J on BA?

      • correct 80tp under 2000miles, 210 tp over 2000 miles

        • Thanks guys! What would that mean for these legs then? Is Scott correct with what he has said if I credited it all to BAEC? With my current BA Bronze (moving up to Silver for the return legs) I’d receive just over 30,000 Avios if that follows through.

          • If my maths is on point that should be correct. With regards to earning your silver avios bonus on the return, it depends how long you will be in Hawaii for. It can take a few days for status to update. If it did update It would also give you Admirals club access in HNL,PHX AND BOS.

          • Looking at about 10 days so it should easily update in that time. I reached Bronze tier from an outward journey to EWR from LHR and the status was updated in time for my return leg 6 days later. Thanks!

      • It’s not who you book with but which flight number you’re on – AA >2k miles gets you 210 TP in F, for the same cabin BA will book you in J and only give 140TP. Makes no difference on 3-class aircraft, only on 2-class domestic US ones. You give up a small number of Avios for AA vs BA coded flights but most of us prefer the extra TPs!

  11. Cant see the cheap HNL fare either.

    How do you short check bags?

    Feel free to post up another other destination gems that people find with this.

    • Jon Dear says:

      the HNL flights are definitely still there…you can do a quick calendar search on google fights to find the cheapest dates and then search on BA. loads of sub £900 dates in march,april ,july & aug.

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