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Which British Airways economy tickets can be upgraded using Avios?

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This article is part of our unofficial ‘how to’ series that we have been running during August for the benefit of recently joined readers.

When British Airways ‘enhanced’ the Avios scheme in 2015, one of the carrots dangled at members to soften the blow of devaluation was the expansion of ‘Upgrade Using Avios’ to discounted economy flights.

Historically, you could only use Avios to upgrade flexible World Traveller or Euro Traveller economy tickets.  If you were spending your own money, it is very unlikely that you would be buying these.

In January 2016, we had some good news.

You could now use Avios to upgrade cash bookings made in K, M, V, L, S and N class on British Airways operated flights.  This covers more economy fare classes than previously.

Here was the bad news:

It did not cover O, G and Q fare classes.  These are the cheapest economy ticket types.

You also need to remember that upgrades use the same reward availability as Avios redemption tickets.  If you cannot book an Avios redemption in the higher class, you won’t be able to upgrade your ticket either.

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What does this mean to me?

On ba.com, you can see your ‘ticket bucket’ by clicking on the flight number during the booking process.  It will say something like ‘Economy selling class: Q’.

Let’s take Amsterdam as an example.

Any Euro Traveller ticket which only earns 125 Avios each way is in O, G or Q ticket bucket.  You cannot upgrade this ticket.

However, tickets which earn 250 Avios each way are upgradable, as are full fare tickets, earning 500 Avios each way.

ba.com, once you are logged in, has the ‘Book with money, upgrade with Avios’ booking option which allows the system to show the cheapest ticket in a suitable ticket bucket.

If your ticket has been booked by a travel agent, including a corporate travel agent, it can still be upgraded.   This is rarely possibly via ‘Manage My Booking’ on ba.com – it will usually throw up an error message just before the payment page – but can done be done via the call centre.

BA Holidays flights can be upgraded. However, package tour flights (technically know as IT fares) cannot.

What does it cost to upgrade?

To quote from ba.com:

The Avios amount required for the upgrade is based on the Avios costs for reward flights in the cabins you are upgrading from and to and will depend on whether your flight is scheduled on a peak or off-peak date.

The formula is:

Avios for the cabin you wish to upgrade to Avios for the cabin you make your booking in = Avios required to upgrade one way

Here’s an example for a peak one-way upgrade from London to New York, upgrading from premium economy (World Traveller Plus) to business (Club World):

        Club World: 60,000 Avios  World Traveller Plus: 40,000 Avios = 20,000 Avios to upgrade

Note that all bookings must be done in advance of travel.  You cannot upgrade with Avios on board or at check-in.

And anyway ….

On long-haul, World Traveller upgrades would only get you into World Traveller Plus because you can only upgrade by one cabin (unlike Virgin Atlantic which allows multi-cabin upgrades).  World Traveller Plus is a very small cabin and a very popular cabin, and it isn’t easy to find Avios reward space.  Even if your ticket does qualify for an upgrade, your chance of finding a seat will not be great.

World Traveller Plus also attracts the higher rate of Air Passenger Duty so there would be additional tax to pay.

At the end of day, for the general public buying their own tickets far in advance, it is possible – due to the fare bucket – that they will never buy a ticket that is upgradable, let alone find that reward upgrade space is also there.

It does work for a small number of people, mainly those on expensive corporate tickets which are flexible / refundable, but British Airways should not really be advertising the ability to upgrade economy tickets as a benefit for the average Avios collector, because it isn’t.

You can find our more about ‘Upgrade Using Avios’ on ba.com here.

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Comments

  1. Can anyone post link to Avios distance based chart?
    i.e. the one which says zone 1 is 1-650 miles etc.

  2. If I was willing to pay 1p per avios, any idea on how do I go about acquiring Avios quickly.
    Need some for 241 redemption.

  3. As there is no bits thought this may be of interest. AMEX Connect has a number of hotel discounts which can be added to your card:

    These include Hyatt, NH, Melia etc

    https://www.americanexpress.com/uk/network/shopping.html

    • Thanks. Thought they had scrapped that site to be honest.

      • You now have to manually enter your card number for every offer. And there is no way to tell which offers are saved on your card. Terrible system.

        • TGLoyalty says:

          The saved offers still show on your Amex account with all your other saved offers.

        • Not on MBNA or Lloyd’s issued Amexes, unless they have recently fixed the website?

  4. O/T – anyone still waiting for SPG points to transfer over from their SPG card?

    • yes, from the 2nd august

      • Well partly, had a third transfer over last week but two thirds still in the Amex acc. which is a little confusing.

      • Similar for me then, statement closed on the 9th

    • fivebobbill says:

      Yes, had 36,000 disappear from my SPG Amex account 3 days ago. No sign of them in my Starwood/Marriott account yet, but given the merger etc I just assumed it would take a few days…?

      • Likewise, I think I saw on Flyertalk thread some people reported transfers coming through – guessing they were in the US though

        Hopefully next week

  5. O/T
    Does anyone know if Amex Plat car hire excess insurance also applies to UK rentals? I’m uncertain at the moment whether the UK Amex Plat card insurance benefits apply only when on what the documentation refers to as a “Trip” or can also be your country of residence, in this case the UK?

    Thanks

    ThT

  6. Sigh… Another pointless “feature” of the Avios scheme.

    I’m sitting on a pot of 360k Avios that I’m struggling to find a decent use for.
    We’re a family of 4 living in Scotland…
    Long haul economy class redemption? – may as well pay cash.
    Long haul business class redemption? – good luck finding 4 seats.
    Short haul anything? – oh, I have to go via London (and pay double for the privilege), let’s go direct with Easyjet/Ryanair/Whoever.

    Will probably end up grinding through them on car hire and occasional trips to London until future devaluations strip them of any remaining value.

    What I need is someway of “selling” them to others via flight bookings for “friends and relatives”!

    • Hi Ian, I have to connect from a region as well, but MAN not well served for trans-Atlantic flights and a lot of people travel via LHR as the fares are often cheaper. So using avios to go to the US and Caribbean works well for us as a family. You’ll always find at least 4 Club World seats on flights to East Coast US cities, especially New York (a very popular holiday destination in itself) and if you want, from there you can go on to numerous other destinations. At present we are in the Cayman Islands, having flown in J to Washington DC for sightseeing then on AA down to the Caribbean, mostly using avios. As someone who is currently restricted to travelling at peak time, I can’t understand it when other people say they can’t find avios availability!

    • Mikeact says:

      I’d be happy to get you to book me a couple of flights, but not sure how to go about it ?……guess Rob would have to introduce.

    • Peter K says:

      Why not use on hotels? Admittedly it is low value per point but 360k avios is about £1800 worth of hotel stays…with greater choice than sticking to your usual suspects of Hilton, Marriott etc.

  7. OT anyone having issues with Amex referrals today? My referral link is not working!

  8. (Slightly) OT… Club Europe catering changes now confirmed for 12 Sep.
    Obviously – for the avoidance of the inevitable questions from simpletons – this is for flights LEAVING THE UK on or after the 12th, so the early morning inbounds that nightstop in Europe won’t have it until the next day.

  9. OT, SPG related.

    Can two SPG Amex’s be linked to one of the new Marriott Reward acc’s? This would help me achieve the extra 15000 bonus when transferring 60000 to a FF program.

    • Genghis says:

      5k? No. Can still transfer within Marriott at 50k pa for this purpose.

      • I know very little about this, but wasn’t it 5000 when transferring 20000 with the old SPG to Avios and the new bonus appears to show 15000 with 60000?

        I’m an Avios only pleb and I’m sure I miss some sweet spots but in my haste to latch on to as many opportunities as possible I’m trying the SPG route, it’s all a little confusing 🙂

        • Yes. Nothing has changed. In fact, compared to the old Marriott exchange rate, it is much improved especially at lower levels.

      • 100k now innit?

  10. We’ve booked to go to Barbados in October through BA Holidays again, in WTP. Is it worth a call to see if we can be upgraded?? We have 180K + Avios in our account doing nothing…

    • Peter K says:

      Worth a try. I went to Barbados last year and going Business made it, in the words of my wife who is not keen on flying, “actually quite enjoyable”.
      It is an old 777 however, so it’s not the lap of luxury, but having a flat bed on the way home was a real boon.

      • Damien Keegan says:

        Thanks, went Club last time, not bothered about going out as its a daytime flight, butnit made a huge difference coming back!

    • Are there 2 Club World seats available for Avios redemption? If so, yes call. If not, there’s no point as there are no seats for the upgrade.

    • I’ll save you the call. No reward seats in Club to Bridgetown until March 19.

  11. Mikeact says:

    Off Topic. I need a referral for Amex Gold, (Rob?), but I have an ancient, (2000) virtually unused now, British Airways Amex card. I guess I need to bin this to get the Gold bonus ?

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