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The HfP comments section has been filled over the weekend with people who are confused about what has happened to their Lloyds Avios Rewards American Express card in the last few days.

As we covered in the past, Lloyds Bank is in the process of converting all existing Lloyds Avios Rewards American Express and Mastercard cards to a new Lloyds Avios Rewards Mastercard.  It comes in the light green colour pictured below.

The key features of the new card are:

  • the upgrade voucher is dead
  • there will no longer be an annual fee, saving £24 (your old fee will be refunded pro-rata)
  • there will be foreign exchange fees of 3%

This is the earnings rate on the new Lloyds Avios Rewards Mastercard:

0.4 Avios per £1 you spend in the UK

0.8 Avios per £1 you spend outside the UK

0.4 Avios per £1 transferred on a balance transfer

Because the Mastercard element of the old Avios Rewards cards was so poor, this actually represents an improvement.  You currently get 0.2 Avios per £1 on the Mastercard in the UK and 0.4 Avios per £1 elsewhere.

The balance transfer option is a great deal when Lloyds runs its occasional ‘no fee’ promotions.  You move as much money as you can, pay it off the same day and pocket a big pile of Avios!

Lloyds has been writing to some, but by no means all, cardholders over the last couple of months giving them the required 60 days notice of the changes.

This being Lloyds, of course, things have not gone to plan.

This is what seems to have happened:

Most (all, according to the call centre, but this is not true) Lloyds Avios Rewards American Express cards have been cancelled in the last few days

Whether or not you have had the letter giving you the legally required notice, many people have had their American Express card shut down

Your existing Mastercard and Amex may have started to incur foreign exchange charges

Lloyds has switched over the benefits of your existing Mastercard without replacing it.  A new card will follow in a few weeks, but it appears the terms have already changed.  Many readers are reporting 3% foreign exchange fees showing up online for overseas transactions made in the last week or so.

Your existing Mastercard is now earning Avios at the new higher rate of 0.4 Avios per £1

The fee refund on your existing card should be showing on your Lloyds online account

Many readers who are currently travelling have been taken by surprise by this switch.  There are two problems:

People who HAD received the letter from Lloyds Bank were assuming that their existing terms and conditions (ie no FX fees) applied until they received their new-look Mastercard.  This appears to NOT be the case.  The letter did NOT have a switchover date on it so there was no way that people could have known when FX charging and the Amex closure were due to kick in.

Many people whose Amex cards have been closed have not received the letter at all, which means that Lloyds Bank is not legally allowed to switch them over.  Comments yesterday on HFP suggest that telephone agents at Lloyds can even see that you have not received your letter as it would be showing on your file if sent.

I’m not sure what the next steps are from here, except to say that:

Be wary of leaving the house with just your Lloyds Avios Rewards American Express card, as it may not work

Be very wary of spending outside the UK on your existing Lloyds Avios Rewards Mastercard, because you may well incur FX fees

If you do incur FX fees for transactions on your old Mastercard, get on the phone to Lloyds Bank and insist on a refund

If you have not received the ’60 days notice’ letter from Lloyds Bank and your American Express card is dead and/or your Mastercard has started to incur FX fees, consider making a formal complaint against Lloyds Bank for breach of contract

Keep an eye on your letterbox for your new Lloyds Avios Rewards Mastercard over the next few weeks

Let us know in the comments if you have anything to add to what we know so far.


How to earn Avios from UK credit cards

How to earn Avios from UK credit cards (October 2024)

As a reminder, there are various ways of earning Avios points from UK credit cards.  Many cards also have generous sign-up bonuses!

In February 2022, Barclaycard launched two exciting new Barclaycard Avios Mastercard cards with a bonus of up to 25,000 Avios. You can apply here.

You qualify for the bonus on these cards even if you have a British Airways American Express card:

Barclaycard Avios Plus card

Barclaycard Avios Plus Mastercard

Get 25,000 Avios for signing up and an upgrade voucher at £10,000 Read our full review

Barclaycard Avios card

Barclaycard Avios Mastercard

Get 5,000 Avios for signing up and an upgrade voucher at £20,000 Read our full review

There are two official British Airways American Express cards with attractive sign-up bonuses:

British Airways American Express Premium Plus

30,000 Avios and the famous annual 2-4-1 voucher Read our full review

British Airways American Express

5,000 Avios for signing up and an Economy 2-4-1 voucher for spending £15,000 Read our full review

You can also get generous sign-up bonuses by applying for American Express cards which earn Membership Rewards points. These points convert at 1:1 into Avios.

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold

Your best beginner’s card – 20,000 points, FREE for a year & four airport lounge passes Read our full review

The Platinum Card from American Express

40,000 bonus points and great travel benefits – for a large fee Read our full review

Run your own business?

We recommend Capital on Tap for limited companies. You earn 1 Avios per £1 which is impressive for a Visa card, along with a sign-up bonus worth 10,500 Avios.

Capital on Tap Business Rewards Visa

10,000 points bonus – plus an extra 500 points for our readers Read our full review

There is also a British Airways American Express card for small businesses:

British Airways American Express Accelerating Business

30,000 Avios sign-up bonus – plus annual bonuses of up to 30,000 Avios Read our full review

There are also generous bonuses on the two American Express Business cards, with the points converting at 1:1 into Avios. These cards are open to sole traders as well as limited companies.

American Express Business Platinum

Up to 80,000 points when you sign-up and an annual £200 Amex Travel credit Read our full review

American Express Business Gold

Get up to 40,000 points as a sign-up offer and FREE for a year Read our full review

Click here to read our detailed summary of all UK credit cards which earn Avios. This includes both personal and small business cards.

Comments (200)

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  • Nathan says:

    As of today, both my ‘old’ Lloyd’s cards are working against the ‘old’ terms and conditions. I guess I should be slightly miffed at only earning the lower avios MC rate 😉

    Slightly OT – assuming not having either an Aer Club nor Vueling account, if one earned a Lloyd’s Avios upgrade voucher after the closure of avios.com accounts, migration to BAEC, and pre-AMEX withdrawal date, where does it appear once awarded?

    • PaulC says:

      It doesn’t, you have to ring Avios up for them to tell you. I have two vouchers one expiring in September that I need to use and the other in January that they gave back after having to cancel due to a miscarriage which was nice of them. Struggling to use them efficiently though.

      • Nathan says:

        Thanks Paul. Confirmation that one hasn’t gone temporarily insane is always welcome.

    • Rob says:

      You can’t see it, but the call centre can. It is against your BA account.

  • jjh4yb says:

    Lloyds have made a total horlicks of this. I received the letter advising me of the change and I’m now more than two weeks overdue swopping over.

    To my benefit, I’ve only had a Lloyds Avios card for 14 months and have received three upgrade vouchers during this time. That is at least one more than I should have done.

  • Maxime says:

    To be fair in the letter I received in April, they were mentioning the changes would take place in a month’s time even if still using the “old” cards. There was no specific date but I assumed the date of the letter + 30 days which was roughly 15 May. They were also mentioning the “old” cards would stop working in two month’s times.

    So currently I guess I can still use my “old” cards (including Amex) because I’m in this “interim” period and I haven’t received the new card, but I assume it’s now under the new earning scheme – only my next statement will confirm. So I wouldn’t say Lloyds didn’t tell us – at least in my letter it was mentioned albeit not very straightforward.

    • guesswho2000 says:

      I would say Lloyds didn’t tell us, since there’s a lot of us who haven’t had any communication at all.

  • Bob says:

    I noticed when I went onto the Lloyds website that the credit card numbers on mine and my wife’s account are not the same as our physical cards (no new cards as yet) so I called in at Lloyds Bank to check as my wife is Portugal with both cards and the lady in the bank said don’t worry they will still work which makes me worry, I’ve said to my wife use the Amex Lloyds until it gets refused (still ok today) then use Curve or Halifax.
    I really don’t have confidence in Lloyds credit cards from bad previous experience!
    So. We will see
    It seems to me they really don’t know what they are doing!

  • Martin says:

    My amex still working today..
    Haven’t received any letters yet..

  • Speedbird676 says:

    I came home to a letter from Lloyds telling me the new T&Cs came into effect on my existing cards on 15-May and that I will receive the new card within the next two weeks.

  • Tony says:

    I just (10 days ago) got replacements for both my Lloyds Avoid cards that I lost a week before.

    No mention of the Amex card being cancelled, but I have had a couple of security check holds on transactions, which is annoying.

  • Nigel says:

    Got the letters today but my Amex card still works! Oh Lloyds….

    • Nigel says:

      Further update:

      Looks like my amex has now been charged for foreign transaction fees from last week (was in Israel). Phoned up and got the fees credited.

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