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The HfP comments section has been filled over the weekend with people who are confused about what has happened to their Lloyds Avios Rewards American Express card in the last few days.

As we covered in the past, Lloyds Bank is in the process of converting all existing Lloyds Avios Rewards American Express and Mastercard cards to a new Lloyds Avios Rewards Mastercard.  It comes in the light green colour pictured below.

The key features of the new card are:

  • the upgrade voucher is dead
  • there will no longer be an annual fee, saving £24 (your old fee will be refunded pro-rata)
  • there will be foreign exchange fees of 3%

This is the earnings rate on the new Lloyds Avios Rewards Mastercard:

0.4 Avios per £1 you spend in the UK

0.8 Avios per £1 you spend outside the UK

0.4 Avios per £1 transferred on a balance transfer

Because the Mastercard element of the old Avios Rewards cards was so poor, this actually represents an improvement.  You currently get 0.2 Avios per £1 on the Mastercard in the UK and 0.4 Avios per £1 elsewhere.

The balance transfer option is a great deal when Lloyds runs its occasional ‘no fee’ promotions.  You move as much money as you can, pay it off the same day and pocket a big pile of Avios!

Lloyds has been writing to some, but by no means all, cardholders over the last couple of months giving them the required 60 days notice of the changes.

This being Lloyds, of course, things have not gone to plan.

This is what seems to have happened:

Most (all, according to the call centre, but this is not true) Lloyds Avios Rewards American Express cards have been cancelled in the last few days

Whether or not you have had the letter giving you the legally required notice, many people have had their American Express card shut down

Your existing Mastercard and Amex may have started to incur foreign exchange charges

Lloyds has switched over the benefits of your existing Mastercard without replacing it.  A new card will follow in a few weeks, but it appears the terms have already changed.  Many readers are reporting 3% foreign exchange fees showing up online for overseas transactions made in the last week or so.

Your existing Mastercard is now earning Avios at the new higher rate of 0.4 Avios per £1

The fee refund on your existing card should be showing on your Lloyds online account

Many readers who are currently travelling have been taken by surprise by this switch.  There are two problems:

People who HAD received the letter from Lloyds Bank were assuming that their existing terms and conditions (ie no FX fees) applied until they received their new-look Mastercard.  This appears to NOT be the case.  The letter did NOT have a switchover date on it so there was no way that people could have known when FX charging and the Amex closure were due to kick in.

Many people whose Amex cards have been closed have not received the letter at all, which means that Lloyds Bank is not legally allowed to switch them over.  Comments yesterday on HFP suggest that telephone agents at Lloyds can even see that you have not received your letter as it would be showing on your file if sent.

I’m not sure what the next steps are from here, except to say that:

Be wary of leaving the house with just your Lloyds Avios Rewards American Express card, as it may not work

Be very wary of spending outside the UK on your existing Lloyds Avios Rewards Mastercard, because you may well incur FX fees

If you do incur FX fees for transactions on your old Mastercard, get on the phone to Lloyds Bank and insist on a refund

If you have not received the ’60 days notice’ letter from Lloyds Bank and your American Express card is dead and/or your Mastercard has started to incur FX fees, consider making a formal complaint against Lloyds Bank for breach of contract

Keep an eye on your letterbox for your new Lloyds Avios Rewards Mastercard over the next few weeks

Let us know in the comments if you have anything to add to what we know so far.


How to earn Avios from UK credit cards

How to earn Avios from UK credit cards (April 2024)

As a reminder, there are various ways of earning Avios points from UK credit cards.  Many cards also have generous sign-up bonuses!

In February 2022, Barclaycard launched two exciting new Barclaycard Avios Mastercard cards with a bonus of up to 25,000 Avios. You can apply here.

You qualify for the bonus on these cards even if you have a British Airways American Express card:

Barclaycard Avios Plus card

Barclaycard Avios Plus Mastercard

Get 25,000 Avios for signing up and an upgrade voucher at £10,000 Read our full review

Barclaycard Avios card

Barclaycard Avios Mastercard

5,000 Avios for signing up and an upgrade voucher at £20,000 Read our full review

There are two official British Airways American Express cards with attractive sign-up bonuses:

British Airways American Express Premium Plus

25,000 Avios and the famous annual 2-4-1 voucher Read our full review

British Airways American Express

5,000 Avios for signing up and an Economy 2-4-1 voucher for spending £15,000 Read our full review

You can also get generous sign-up bonuses by applying for American Express cards which earn Membership Rewards points. These points convert at 1:1 into Avios.

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold

Your best beginner’s card – 20,000 points, FREE for a year & four airport lounge passes Read our full review

The Platinum Card from American Express

40,000 bonus points and a huge range of valuable benefits – for a fee Read our full review

Run your own business?

We recommend Capital on Tap for limited companies. You earn 1 Avios per £1 which is impressive for a Visa card, along with a sign-up bonus worth 10,500 Avios.

Capital on Tap Business Rewards Visa

Huge 30,000 points bonus until 12th May 2024 Read our full review

You should also consider the British Airways Accelerating Business credit card. This is open to sole traders as well as limited companies and has a 30,000 Avios sign-up bonus.

British Airways Accelerating Business American Express

30,000 Avios sign-up bonus – plus annual bonuses of up to 30,000 Avios Read our full review

There are also generous bonuses on the two American Express Business cards, with the points converting at 1:1 into Avios. These cards are open to sole traders as well as limited companies.

American Express Business Platinum

40,000 points sign-up bonus and an annual £200 Amex Travel credit Read our full review

American Express Business Gold

20,000 points sign-up bonus and FREE for a year Read our full review

Click here to read our detailed summary of all UK credit cards which earn Avios. This includes both personal and small business cards.

Comments (200)

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  • Michael says:

    One thing I think we can agree on is that Lloyds have managed this migration with all of the efficiency, clarity and effectiveness we have come to expect.

    • EwanG says:

      Indeed. They have no shortage of rectification projects, which they seem to be happy to do rather than get it right during planning and execution!

  • Steve says:

    OT – at T5, BA Galleries Club or Aspire?

  • Curious says:

    Isn’t it a condition of the Lloyds upgrade voucher that the flights be paid for using an Amex card?

    If Lloyds cancel one’s Amex card (and they don’t possess any other Amex), how are we to meet this condition when seeking to later use the voucher? Are Lloyds obliging customers to apply for a different Amex card to make the payment?

    • Liam says:

      There’s nothing to suggest that an Amex must be used to pay the associated charges—just that it must be a full Avios booking and the cardholder must be travelling. That’s from the terms next to the voucher on avios.com. It invites you to check avios.com/lloydsbank for “full terms and conditions” but that URL doesn’t go to a working page.

  • Yorkieflyer says:

    So I’ve today received a letter from Lloyds dated the 15th May saying effective from that day terms per the new card apparently in the post are effective! This counts as notice then?

    • Anna says:

      Not unless you also had a letter 60 days prior to that one!

      • Yorkieflyer says:

        I did, but there was no specific date for the change in The earlier letter I recall?

        • John says:

          well as long the earlier letter came before 15 March it would count

          • Lady London says:

            I think in another matter some time ago I was advised by a lawyer that a notice letter which didn’t state specifically the date on / from which the event being notified would take effect either by stating the exact effective date or ‘will take effect 60 days from the date of this letter’ is not a valid notice letter.

            It seems Lloyds didn’t do this

            @Anna will be able to say if this is true?

  • AB says:

    I’ve had this exact problem last week. I tried using my card a couple of weeks ago and no purchases would go through. I called them last week and they told me that they posted the account closure notice in March. After further investigation by their team, the letter’s on their end had been sent out however they had been redirected back to them. When they viewed the letters, they had no address on them. They told me on the phone that the account will be closed at the end of this month! I still haven’t had a single letter from Lloyds confirming this!

  • roberto says:

    Had two new cards arrive today. An Amex and a Mastercard with the old numbers and new expiry dates. Neither is the new “new card” which has a different number according to my online account & which I should get shortly. You really cant believe how much Lloyds suck at this.
    Pi55 up and Brewery come to mind.

  • Russell Tait says:

    Also received a set of new Avios Amex/mastercard today taking me thru to ’22 apparently.

  • New Card says:

    I’m sure that one of the terms of the Lloyds Upgrade Voucher was that it can be applied to existing bookings.

    Does anyone have any idea how this is done in practice? I wouldn’t want my existing tickets to be cancelled and re-booked in case the old tickets don’t appear for award availability again.

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