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The HfP comments section has been filled over the weekend with people who are confused about what has happened to their Lloyds Avios Rewards American Express card in the last few days.

As we covered in the past, Lloyds Bank is in the process of converting all existing Lloyds Avios Rewards American Express and Mastercard cards to a new Lloyds Avios Rewards Mastercard.  It comes in the light green colour pictured below.

The key features of the new card are:

  • the upgrade voucher is dead
  • there will no longer be an annual fee, saving £24 (your old fee will be refunded pro-rata)
  • there will be foreign exchange fees of 3%

This is the earnings rate on the new Lloyds Avios Rewards Mastercard:

0.4 Avios per £1 you spend in the UK

0.8 Avios per £1 you spend outside the UK

0.4 Avios per £1 transferred on a balance transfer

Because the Mastercard element of the old Avios Rewards cards was so poor, this actually represents an improvement.  You currently get 0.2 Avios per £1 on the Mastercard in the UK and 0.4 Avios per £1 elsewhere.

The balance transfer option is a great deal when Lloyds runs its occasional ‘no fee’ promotions.  You move as much money as you can, pay it off the same day and pocket a big pile of Avios!

Lloyds has been writing to some, but by no means all, cardholders over the last couple of months giving them the required 60 days notice of the changes.

This being Lloyds, of course, things have not gone to plan.

This is what seems to have happened:

Most (all, according to the call centre, but this is not true) Lloyds Avios Rewards American Express cards have been cancelled in the last few days

Whether or not you have had the letter giving you the legally required notice, many people have had their American Express card shut down

Your existing Mastercard and Amex may have started to incur foreign exchange charges

Lloyds has switched over the benefits of your existing Mastercard without replacing it.  A new card will follow in a few weeks, but it appears the terms have already changed.  Many readers are reporting 3% foreign exchange fees showing up online for overseas transactions made in the last week or so.

Your existing Mastercard is now earning Avios at the new higher rate of 0.4 Avios per £1

The fee refund on your existing card should be showing on your Lloyds online account

Many readers who are currently travelling have been taken by surprise by this switch.  There are two problems:

People who HAD received the letter from Lloyds Bank were assuming that their existing terms and conditions (ie no FX fees) applied until they received their new-look Mastercard.  This appears to NOT be the case.  The letter did NOT have a switchover date on it so there was no way that people could have known when FX charging and the Amex closure were due to kick in.

Many people whose Amex cards have been closed have not received the letter at all, which means that Lloyds Bank is not legally allowed to switch them over.  Comments yesterday on HFP suggest that telephone agents at Lloyds can even see that you have not received your letter as it would be showing on your file if sent.

I’m not sure what the next steps are from here, except to say that:

Be wary of leaving the house with just your Lloyds Avios Rewards American Express card, as it may not work

Be very wary of spending outside the UK on your existing Lloyds Avios Rewards Mastercard, because you may well incur FX fees

If you do incur FX fees for transactions on your old Mastercard, get on the phone to Lloyds Bank and insist on a refund

If you have not received the ’60 days notice’ letter from Lloyds Bank and your American Express card is dead and/or your Mastercard has started to incur FX fees, consider making a formal complaint against Lloyds Bank for breach of contract

Keep an eye on your letterbox for your new Lloyds Avios Rewards Mastercard over the next few weeks

Let us know in the comments if you have anything to add to what we know so far.


How to earn Avios from UK credit cards

How to earn Avios from UK credit cards (April 2024)

As a reminder, there are various ways of earning Avios points from UK credit cards.  Many cards also have generous sign-up bonuses!

In February 2022, Barclaycard launched two exciting new Barclaycard Avios Mastercard cards with a bonus of up to 25,000 Avios. You can apply here.

You qualify for the bonus on these cards even if you have a British Airways American Express card:

Barclaycard Avios Plus card

Barclaycard Avios Plus Mastercard

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Barclaycard Avios card

Barclaycard Avios Mastercard

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There are two official British Airways American Express cards with attractive sign-up bonuses:

British Airways American Express Premium Plus

25,000 Avios and the famous annual 2-4-1 voucher Read our full review

British Airways American Express

5,000 Avios for signing up and an Economy 2-4-1 voucher for spending £15,000 Read our full review

You can also get generous sign-up bonuses by applying for American Express cards which earn Membership Rewards points. These points convert at 1:1 into Avios.

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold

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The Platinum Card from American Express

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We recommend Capital on Tap for limited companies. You earn 1 Avios per £1 which is impressive for a Visa card, along with a sign-up bonus worth 10,500 Avios.

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You should also consider the British Airways Accelerating Business credit card. This is open to sole traders as well as limited companies and has a 30,000 Avios sign-up bonus.

British Airways Accelerating Business American Express

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There are also generous bonuses on the two American Express Business cards, with the points converting at 1:1 into Avios. These cards are open to sole traders as well as limited companies.

American Express Business Platinum

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American Express Business Gold

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Click here to read our detailed summary of all UK credit cards which earn Avios. This includes both personal and small business cards.

Comments (200)

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  • Simon Cross says:

    I have used both cards within the last week and had no issues.Not used overseas for over a month.

    Not has any letter from them at all.

  • Richard G says:

    I’m quite confused by this. Apparently my statement says I’ve had a new card issued… except I don’t.

  • chelynnah says:

    We received the letter a few weeks ago in April. I have been watching the mail for the new card and have been wary of using the Lloyds Amex just in case. Generally use it for Fx online transactions, and have automatic payments for some subs through PayPal with it. I changed those back to my Tesco MC after the letter arrived so PayPal would do the exchange and not the card (therefore no fees).

    Because we don’t use it I’m unsure if it’s closed, but I did notice in the app on Fri when I checked my balance to pay it, there was a £10 refund for my fees, which I assumed meant it would be changing any day.

    If it’s true that the current MC is now using the new rewards rate then I would happily start using it over my Tesco one. I’ve just been waiting for the replacement to arrive to make that change. Has it been confirmed that our existing MC is using the new rates? Sorry if it’s been confirmed already, I’m just about to start working through the comments.

    Sorry for anyone who’s been hit by this. This is very bad form 😢

    • chelynnah says:

      Reading other posts I suspect our letter must have actually been March as everyone else’s

      I’ve also gone back into the app and realised that the card number in the app is neither of our current Amex or MC numbers, so our switch has been made. Obviously just need to wait on the physical cards arriving. I will go ahead and swap out our Tesco MCs in our wallets for the Lloyds ones now I suppose.

    • John says:

      Paypal exchange rate is worse than Tesco’s fees though.

  • Anna says:

    Lloyds just called to offer me £50 to resolve the Amex being declined twice in the past few days (accepted). In response to my specific questions the CSA stated:
    Lloyds are fully aware that some letters have yet to be sent out.
    There is no set date for the cards to stop working (I mentioned June 15th but this was denied)
    No cards will stop working until 60-65 days after the cardholder has been notified
    No FX fees will be charged until the cards have officially been changed over (i.e. at the end of the notice period).
    Make of that what you will…

  • Colin MacKinnon says:

    How would one know one had been sent a letter?

    Did they send them out recorded delivery?

  • Chris Crombie says:

    I’m abroad at the moment and have had no problems having either the Amex or Mastercard being accepted, I have however received two Non-Sterling Fees so far (14th May).

    Upon calling Lloyds this morning they immediately agreed to refund the fees and told me I could keep using the cards until 15th June i.e. 30 days after the switch-over, which they claim happened on the 15th May. They say that any use will be fee free and if I do get any further charges that they will be refunded.

    I did receive a letter in early April about the impending changes but I haven’t received my new Mastercard yet.

    • Speedbird676 says:

      That exactly matches my experience.

    • Lady London says:

      If you haven’t had a valid specific notice letter stating clearly the date changes would be effective at least as long ago as is in the terms for the card then personally I’d inform you’ve not had the notice provided for in the contract and reject the changes until correct notice has been received by you

  • Richard G says:

    Vaguely on topic… anyone have any suggestions for reward cards for (mostly) foreign spend?

    I used to use the Lloyds Amex for virtually everything, but obviously that’s about to come to an end.

    • Anna says:

      I’m going to investigate Revolut properly once I actually get notice of my Lloyd’s cards being withdrawn. Does the link for the free card from this site still work?

    • Nathan says:

      I have used Curve almost entirely without incident for, well?, since the beta version that Rob trailed here. My approach being that I hold the Blue as a base card over whichever reward earner is in fashion and upgrade/downgrade according to forecast of my peaky FX cashflow. May work for you, may not. Revolut looks attractive but not sufficiently to yet overcome my inertia #lazy

    • David says:

      If the spend is predominantly EUR or USD, surely an ICC would be an option.

  • David says:

    Not a letter since the one a few months ago informing me the cards were being replaced but I got charged a FX fee for a euro transaction last week. Lloyds claim they’re sending me a new PIN and card but the current card is working. I’ve been told they FX fee will be refunded but not best please.

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