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The HfP comments section has been filled over the weekend with people who are confused about what has happened to their Lloyds Avios Rewards American Express card in the last few days.

As we covered in the past, Lloyds Bank is in the process of converting all existing Lloyds Avios Rewards American Express and Mastercard cards to a new Lloyds Avios Rewards Mastercard.  It comes in the light green colour pictured below.

The key features of the new card are:

  • the upgrade voucher is dead
  • there will no longer be an annual fee, saving £24 (your old fee will be refunded pro-rata)
  • there will be foreign exchange fees of 3%

This is the earnings rate on the new Lloyds Avios Rewards Mastercard:

0.4 Avios per £1 you spend in the UK

0.8 Avios per £1 you spend outside the UK

0.4 Avios per £1 transferred on a balance transfer

Because the Mastercard element of the old Avios Rewards cards was so poor, this actually represents an improvement.  You currently get 0.2 Avios per £1 on the Mastercard in the UK and 0.4 Avios per £1 elsewhere.

The balance transfer option is a great deal when Lloyds runs its occasional ‘no fee’ promotions.  You move as much money as you can, pay it off the same day and pocket a big pile of Avios!

Lloyds has been writing to some, but by no means all, cardholders over the last couple of months giving them the required 60 days notice of the changes.

This being Lloyds, of course, things have not gone to plan.

This is what seems to have happened:

Most (all, according to the call centre, but this is not true) Lloyds Avios Rewards American Express cards have been cancelled in the last few days

Whether or not you have had the letter giving you the legally required notice, many people have had their American Express card shut down

Your existing Mastercard and Amex may have started to incur foreign exchange charges

Lloyds has switched over the benefits of your existing Mastercard without replacing it.  A new card will follow in a few weeks, but it appears the terms have already changed.  Many readers are reporting 3% foreign exchange fees showing up online for overseas transactions made in the last week or so.

Your existing Mastercard is now earning Avios at the new higher rate of 0.4 Avios per £1

The fee refund on your existing card should be showing on your Lloyds online account

Many readers who are currently travelling have been taken by surprise by this switch.  There are two problems:

People who HAD received the letter from Lloyds Bank were assuming that their existing terms and conditions (ie no FX fees) applied until they received their new-look Mastercard.  This appears to NOT be the case.  The letter did NOT have a switchover date on it so there was no way that people could have known when FX charging and the Amex closure were due to kick in.

Many people whose Amex cards have been closed have not received the letter at all, which means that Lloyds Bank is not legally allowed to switch them over.  Comments yesterday on HFP suggest that telephone agents at Lloyds can even see that you have not received your letter as it would be showing on your file if sent.

I’m not sure what the next steps are from here, except to say that:

Be wary of leaving the house with just your Lloyds Avios Rewards American Express card, as it may not work

Be very wary of spending outside the UK on your existing Lloyds Avios Rewards Mastercard, because you may well incur FX fees

If you do incur FX fees for transactions on your old Mastercard, get on the phone to Lloyds Bank and insist on a refund

If you have not received the ’60 days notice’ letter from Lloyds Bank and your American Express card is dead and/or your Mastercard has started to incur FX fees, consider making a formal complaint against Lloyds Bank for breach of contract

Keep an eye on your letterbox for your new Lloyds Avios Rewards Mastercard over the next few weeks

Let us know in the comments if you have anything to add to what we know so far.


How to earn Avios from UK credit cards

How to earn Avios from UK credit cards (April 2024)

As a reminder, there are various ways of earning Avios points from UK credit cards.  Many cards also have generous sign-up bonuses!

In February 2022, Barclaycard launched two exciting new Barclaycard Avios Mastercard cards with a bonus of up to 25,000 Avios. You can apply here.

You qualify for the bonus on these cards even if you have a British Airways American Express card:

Barclaycard Avios Plus card

Barclaycard Avios Plus Mastercard

Get 25,000 Avios for signing up and an upgrade voucher at £10,000 Read our full review

Barclaycard Avios card

Barclaycard Avios Mastercard

5,000 Avios for signing up and an upgrade voucher at £20,000 Read our full review

There are two official British Airways American Express cards with attractive sign-up bonuses:

British Airways American Express Premium Plus

25,000 Avios and the famous annual 2-4-1 voucher Read our full review

British Airways American Express

5,000 Avios for signing up and an Economy 2-4-1 voucher for spending £15,000 Read our full review

You can also get generous sign-up bonuses by applying for American Express cards which earn Membership Rewards points. These points convert at 1:1 into Avios.

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold

Your best beginner’s card – 20,000 points, FREE for a year & four airport lounge passes Read our full review

The Platinum Card from American Express

40,000 bonus points and a huge range of valuable benefits – for a fee Read our full review

Run your own business?

We recommend Capital on Tap for limited companies. You earn 1 Avios per £1 which is impressive for a Visa card, along with a sign-up bonus worth 10,500 Avios.

Capital on Tap Business Rewards Visa

Huge 30,000 points bonus until 12th May 2024 Read our full review

You should also consider the British Airways Accelerating Business credit card. This is open to sole traders as well as limited companies and has a 30,000 Avios sign-up bonus.

British Airways Accelerating Business American Express

30,000 Avios sign-up bonus – plus annual bonuses of up to 30,000 Avios Read our full review

There are also generous bonuses on the two American Express Business cards, with the points converting at 1:1 into Avios. These cards are open to sole traders as well as limited companies.

American Express Business Platinum

40,000 points sign-up bonus and an annual £200 Amex Travel credit Read our full review

American Express Business Gold

20,000 points sign-up bonus and FREE for a year Read our full review

Click here to read our detailed summary of all UK credit cards which earn Avios. This includes both personal and small business cards.

Comments (200)

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  • N1David says:

    Two data points here:

    I received letter dated 12 March. Annual fee refunded 15 May. A new card number now shows up in the app and website, but I haven’t received the card. Amex still working as of last Thursday.

    Husband has received no letter yet, no annual fee refund and no new card number on website.

  • EvilDoctorK says:

    It also appears ( hopefully incorrectly !) that they have voided the promotional interest period ( in my case 0% until December 2019 ) as part of the transfer .. this was not mentioned at the time in the letter as I recall

    • EvilDoctorK says:

      Answering my own question after calling them .. they are ‘aware of this issue’ and it seems to be an error which which they will correct for my account

      If anyone was taking advantage of the quite generous 0% on purchases before make sure to check the latest statement to ensure the historical balance is taking advantage of it .. as in my case it wasn’t

      • Rob Walker says:

        Thanks for the info. I have a large balance on mine and it did occur to me that this could quite easily happen given Lloyds track record. I’ll watch my account closely.

      • Raj says:

        Thanks for this. I just checked my account, and my promotional interest-free period till December 2019 also appears to have been cancelled. I’ll call them. Luckily managed to purchase my ex-EU Qatar flights before the fx fees started to be applied. I’ll be sad to see this card go as I’ve used it a lot. With all the Amex changes that Rob has announced, I’ll also be looking for new alternatives.

  • James says:

    Perhaps this is affecting people on their next statement date? I received the letter back in very early March and my amex card number is still showing on the website and no refund of fee yet. (Statement date is 2nd of the month). I go to Italy at the end of the week so am hoping I dont get any fx chrges

  • Julio says:

    I have a £0 fee balance transfer offer on my Lloyds Amex Avios. How to I know if I’d make any Avios using it?

  • S says:

    Had the letter in March. Currently showing the old MasterCard in the Lloyds app with an available credit of NIL and the new card that I haven’t got. Amex has disappeared. Had a notification the other day via Monzo app that a new direct debit had been set up for Lloyds so I assume it’s on its way.

    I for one will miss the old duo, but I’m fairly happy about the new MasterCard. Seems to me to be a perfectly acceptable backup for daily spend where I can’t use the Amex

  • RTS says:

    If you click on the view my statement tab on your online account, you should see when your account was transferred over to the new card.

    I have a “statement” from April which reads “April 2019 – balance transferred from XXXX to new card XXXX”

    Bit odd that they transferred me over already as I thought it had to be 60 day notice before they could, which should have brought me to the end of May!

    • Anna says:

      They do have to give you 60 days’ notice, it’s mentioned in the article!

    • Lady London says:

      Make sure you advise them promptly that as you haven’t received notice from them as required by the terms and conditions, you are not accepting the changes. Otherwise you will be deemed to have accepted them.

  • Justin says:

    I rang the 0800 number that was on the letter they sent in March. The person I spoke to initially had no idea what I was on about, but eventually agreed to refund the transaction fee for a USD purchase made on 15 May (‘as a gesture of good will’). She confirmed that all transactions after the date would be on the new earning rate. She said she couldn’t help me with the Avios that I’d missed out on but suggested I ring the 0345 number on the back of the card. The guy there was a bit more helpful. He said he would have a word with the Avios team and put me on hold. After 15 minutes of waiting I had an existential crisis and decided 400 or so missing Avios wasn’t worth the hassle (and whatever calling an 0345 number from a mobile costs).

    • lev441 says:

      03 numbers are like dialing a 01 or 02 number from a mobile so no extra incurred costs!

  • Nick_C says:

    Rob, are you trying to get a statement from Lloyds?

    • Anna says:

      You’ll get any one of a number of stories depending on who you speak to…😂

    • Rob says:

      No, because my experience of dealing with Lloyds is that I am wasting my time 🙂

      You may remember the great Lloyds Avios data leak last year, when literally hundreds of Lloyds Avios Rewards credit cardholders suddenly found, in the same week, charges from cloned credit cards used in the USA appearing on their statements – but Lloyds claimed it was all a coincidence and that no data leak had occurred ….

      • Lady London says:

        Wow. I bet the regulator would be interested in that one.

        • Rob says:

          Unlikely. The story got into a few newspapers after I ran it and still nothing happened.

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