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The HfP comments section has been filled over the weekend with people who are confused about what has happened to their Lloyds Avios Rewards American Express card in the last few days.

As we covered in the past, Lloyds Bank is in the process of converting all existing Lloyds Avios Rewards American Express and Mastercard cards to a new Lloyds Avios Rewards Mastercard.  It comes in the light green colour pictured below.

The key features of the new card are:

  • the upgrade voucher is dead
  • there will no longer be an annual fee, saving £24 (your old fee will be refunded pro-rata)
  • there will be foreign exchange fees of 3%

This is the earnings rate on the new Lloyds Avios Rewards Mastercard:

0.4 Avios per £1 you spend in the UK

0.8 Avios per £1 you spend outside the UK

0.4 Avios per £1 transferred on a balance transfer

Because the Mastercard element of the old Avios Rewards cards was so poor, this actually represents an improvement.  You currently get 0.2 Avios per £1 on the Mastercard in the UK and 0.4 Avios per £1 elsewhere.

The balance transfer option is a great deal when Lloyds runs its occasional ‘no fee’ promotions.  You move as much money as you can, pay it off the same day and pocket a big pile of Avios!

Lloyds has been writing to some, but by no means all, cardholders over the last couple of months giving them the required 60 days notice of the changes.

This being Lloyds, of course, things have not gone to plan.

This is what seems to have happened:

Most (all, according to the call centre, but this is not true) Lloyds Avios Rewards American Express cards have been cancelled in the last few days

Whether or not you have had the letter giving you the legally required notice, many people have had their American Express card shut down

Your existing Mastercard and Amex may have started to incur foreign exchange charges

Lloyds has switched over the benefits of your existing Mastercard without replacing it.  A new card will follow in a few weeks, but it appears the terms have already changed.  Many readers are reporting 3% foreign exchange fees showing up online for overseas transactions made in the last week or so.

Your existing Mastercard is now earning Avios at the new higher rate of 0.4 Avios per £1

The fee refund on your existing card should be showing on your Lloyds online account

Many readers who are currently travelling have been taken by surprise by this switch.  There are two problems:

People who HAD received the letter from Lloyds Bank were assuming that their existing terms and conditions (ie no FX fees) applied until they received their new-look Mastercard.  This appears to NOT be the case.  The letter did NOT have a switchover date on it so there was no way that people could have known when FX charging and the Amex closure were due to kick in.

Many people whose Amex cards have been closed have not received the letter at all, which means that Lloyds Bank is not legally allowed to switch them over.  Comments yesterday on HFP suggest that telephone agents at Lloyds can even see that you have not received your letter as it would be showing on your file if sent.

I’m not sure what the next steps are from here, except to say that:

Be wary of leaving the house with just your Lloyds Avios Rewards American Express card, as it may not work

Be very wary of spending outside the UK on your existing Lloyds Avios Rewards Mastercard, because you may well incur FX fees

If you do incur FX fees for transactions on your old Mastercard, get on the phone to Lloyds Bank and insist on a refund

If you have not received the ’60 days notice’ letter from Lloyds Bank and your American Express card is dead and/or your Mastercard has started to incur FX fees, consider making a formal complaint against Lloyds Bank for breach of contract

Keep an eye on your letterbox for your new Lloyds Avios Rewards Mastercard over the next few weeks

Let us know in the comments if you have anything to add to what we know so far.


How to earn Avios from UK credit cards

How to earn Avios from UK credit cards (April 2024)

As a reminder, there are various ways of earning Avios points from UK credit cards.  Many cards also have generous sign-up bonuses!

In February 2022, Barclaycard launched two exciting new Barclaycard Avios Mastercard cards with a bonus of up to 25,000 Avios. You can apply here.

You qualify for the bonus on these cards even if you have a British Airways American Express card:

Barclaycard Avios Plus card

Barclaycard Avios Plus Mastercard

Get 25,000 Avios for signing up and an upgrade voucher at £10,000 Read our full review

Barclaycard Avios card

Barclaycard Avios Mastercard

5,000 Avios for signing up and an upgrade voucher at £20,000 Read our full review

There are two official British Airways American Express cards with attractive sign-up bonuses:

British Airways American Express Premium Plus

25,000 Avios and the famous annual 2-4-1 voucher Read our full review

British Airways American Express

5,000 Avios for signing up and an Economy 2-4-1 voucher for spending £15,000 Read our full review

You can also get generous sign-up bonuses by applying for American Express cards which earn Membership Rewards points. These points convert at 1:1 into Avios.

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold

Your best beginner’s card – 20,000 points, FREE for a year & four airport lounge passes Read our full review

The Platinum Card from American Express

40,000 bonus points and a huge range of valuable benefits – for a fee Read our full review

Run your own business?

We recommend Capital on Tap for limited companies. You earn 1 Avios per £1 which is impressive for a Visa card, along with a sign-up bonus worth 10,500 Avios.

Capital on Tap Business Rewards Visa

Huge 30,000 points bonus until 12th May 2024 Read our full review

You should also consider the British Airways Accelerating Business credit card. This is open to sole traders as well as limited companies and has a 30,000 Avios sign-up bonus.

British Airways Accelerating Business American Express

30,000 Avios sign-up bonus – plus annual bonuses of up to 30,000 Avios Read our full review

There are also generous bonuses on the two American Express Business cards, with the points converting at 1:1 into Avios. These cards are open to sole traders as well as limited companies.

American Express Business Platinum

40,000 points sign-up bonus and an annual £200 Amex Travel credit Read our full review

American Express Business Gold

20,000 points sign-up bonus and FREE for a year Read our full review

Click here to read our detailed summary of all UK credit cards which earn Avios. This includes both personal and small business cards.

Comments (200)

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  • the_real_a says:

    I phoned on Friday to understand when the cards would be swapped over as i wanted to avoid the Fx fee on an upcoming trip. Firstly the first agent had no clue what was being talked about – the second agent told they had already moved over in February… I explained this was not true. They then told me to call Avios (!). I escalated to a manager who told me that they sent the letter giving 60 days notice but the switchover could happen “at any time after that”. I explained this wasn’t an acceptable explanation – until reading the comments this morning i didn’t think any financial organisation would make a commercial decisions to operate in this way. I then raised a complaint, the agent told me specifically that Fx fees would not be charged at any time when using the old card. Only at the point of using the new card would the new earnings rates and fx fees kick in. I was bunged £25 for them to close the complaint… Guess all that was baloney!

  • Speedbird676 says:

    Reading all of the comments, and my own experience, the only thing that is certain is… Lloyds have absolutely no idea what they are doing!

  • Nick says:

    I got the letter back in March, I made one purchase yesterday and one today (around 5 minutes ago before posting this) with my Lloyd’s Amex both worked however both transactions where online ones.

  • The Lord says:

    Handy that my new Barclaycard arrived this weekend as an overseas spend alternative!

  • n1david says:

    I’ve received a letter in the post this morning which states

    “Two months ago we let you know about changes we’re making to your credit card account and loyalty scheme terms and conditions. As of the date of this letter, we have made those changes.

    The letter is dated 15 May which means I guess that the US$4k charge I put through on Friday 17 May will incur an FX charge.

    The letter states that my new Mastercard should be with me within the next two weeks.

    • Obi says:

      +1 Same letter landed on my doormat this morning.

    • Cwyfan says:

      I was in same situation, so phoned to complain and was given full refund of FX

  • George K says:

    No letter, and so far both cards working well. I’ve actually triggered another voucher… again.. and it seems like I won’t be able to use any..

  • Graham says:

    I had been told the change would only happen ‘at the end of my card year’ so was expecting it in September. I’ve just had a £10 refund today.
    I’m going abroad in a few weeks so had been expecting to use this no-FX fee card so will need to depend on my curve card only.

    On the other hand, I am very very happy to get more avois for my unavoidably non-Amex spend and even opened a Club Lloyd’s account to boost the avios in preparation.

    • Rob says:

      That is complete nonsense. If the changes were being done at the end of the card year they wouldn’t be refunding pro-rata fees.

  • Chris says:

    Are people making the most of miles on balance transfers before their account is migrated? Do you get miles at the Amex or Mastercard rate? Just arranged a big spend but it went through at the Mastercard rate for me. Disappointing but certainly better than nothing!

    (No letter and no switch for me…)

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