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The HfP comments section has been filled over the weekend with people who are confused about what has happened to their Lloyds Avios Rewards American Express card in the last few days.

As we covered in the past, Lloyds Bank is in the process of converting all existing Lloyds Avios Rewards American Express and Mastercard cards to a new Lloyds Avios Rewards Mastercard.  It comes in the light green colour pictured below.

The key features of the new card are:

  • the upgrade voucher is dead
  • there will no longer be an annual fee, saving £24 (your old fee will be refunded pro-rata)
  • there will be foreign exchange fees of 3%

This is the earnings rate on the new Lloyds Avios Rewards Mastercard:

0.4 Avios per £1 you spend in the UK

0.8 Avios per £1 you spend outside the UK

0.4 Avios per £1 transferred on a balance transfer

Because the Mastercard element of the old Avios Rewards cards was so poor, this actually represents an improvement.  You currently get 0.2 Avios per £1 on the Mastercard in the UK and 0.4 Avios per £1 elsewhere.

The balance transfer option is a great deal when Lloyds runs its occasional ‘no fee’ promotions.  You move as much money as you can, pay it off the same day and pocket a big pile of Avios!

Lloyds has been writing to some, but by no means all, cardholders over the last couple of months giving them the required 60 days notice of the changes.

This being Lloyds, of course, things have not gone to plan.

This is what seems to have happened:

Most (all, according to the call centre, but this is not true) Lloyds Avios Rewards American Express cards have been cancelled in the last few days

Whether or not you have had the letter giving you the legally required notice, many people have had their American Express card shut down

Your existing Mastercard and Amex may have started to incur foreign exchange charges

Lloyds has switched over the benefits of your existing Mastercard without replacing it.  A new card will follow in a few weeks, but it appears the terms have already changed.  Many readers are reporting 3% foreign exchange fees showing up online for overseas transactions made in the last week or so.

Your existing Mastercard is now earning Avios at the new higher rate of 0.4 Avios per £1

The fee refund on your existing card should be showing on your Lloyds online account

Many readers who are currently travelling have been taken by surprise by this switch.  There are two problems:

People who HAD received the letter from Lloyds Bank were assuming that their existing terms and conditions (ie no FX fees) applied until they received their new-look Mastercard.  This appears to NOT be the case.  The letter did NOT have a switchover date on it so there was no way that people could have known when FX charging and the Amex closure were due to kick in.

Many people whose Amex cards have been closed have not received the letter at all, which means that Lloyds Bank is not legally allowed to switch them over.  Comments yesterday on HFP suggest that telephone agents at Lloyds can even see that you have not received your letter as it would be showing on your file if sent.

I’m not sure what the next steps are from here, except to say that:

Be wary of leaving the house with just your Lloyds Avios Rewards American Express card, as it may not work

Be very wary of spending outside the UK on your existing Lloyds Avios Rewards Mastercard, because you may well incur FX fees

If you do incur FX fees for transactions on your old Mastercard, get on the phone to Lloyds Bank and insist on a refund

If you have not received the ’60 days notice’ letter from Lloyds Bank and your American Express card is dead and/or your Mastercard has started to incur FX fees, consider making a formal complaint against Lloyds Bank for breach of contract

Keep an eye on your letterbox for your new Lloyds Avios Rewards Mastercard over the next few weeks

Let us know in the comments if you have anything to add to what we know so far.


How to earn Avios from UK credit cards

How to earn Avios from UK credit cards (April 2024)

As a reminder, there are various ways of earning Avios points from UK credit cards.  Many cards also have generous sign-up bonuses!

In February 2022, Barclaycard launched two exciting new Barclaycard Avios Mastercard cards with a bonus of up to 25,000 Avios. You can apply here.

You qualify for the bonus on these cards even if you have a British Airways American Express card:

Barclaycard Avios Plus card

Barclaycard Avios Plus Mastercard

Get 25,000 Avios for signing up and an upgrade voucher at £10,000 Read our full review

Barclaycard Avios card

Barclaycard Avios Mastercard

5,000 Avios for signing up and an upgrade voucher at £20,000 Read our full review

There are two official British Airways American Express cards with attractive sign-up bonuses:

British Airways American Express Premium Plus

25,000 Avios and the famous annual 2-4-1 voucher Read our full review

British Airways American Express

5,000 Avios for signing up and an Economy 2-4-1 voucher for spending £15,000 Read our full review

You can also get generous sign-up bonuses by applying for American Express cards which earn Membership Rewards points. These points convert at 1:1 into Avios.

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold

Your best beginner’s card – 20,000 points, FREE for a year & four airport lounge passes Read our full review

The Platinum Card from American Express

40,000 bonus points and a huge range of valuable benefits – for a fee Read our full review

Run your own business?

We recommend Capital on Tap for limited companies. You earn 1 Avios per £1 which is impressive for a Visa card, along with a sign-up bonus worth 10,500 Avios.

Capital on Tap Business Rewards Visa

Huge 30,000 points bonus until 12th May 2024 Read our full review

You should also consider the British Airways Accelerating Business credit card. This is open to sole traders as well as limited companies and has a 30,000 Avios sign-up bonus.

British Airways Accelerating Business American Express

30,000 Avios sign-up bonus – plus annual bonuses of up to 30,000 Avios Read our full review

There are also generous bonuses on the two American Express Business cards, with the points converting at 1:1 into Avios. These cards are open to sole traders as well as limited companies.

American Express Business Platinum

40,000 points sign-up bonus and an annual £200 Amex Travel credit Read our full review

American Express Business Gold

20,000 points sign-up bonus and FREE for a year Read our full review

Click here to read our detailed summary of all UK credit cards which earn Avios. This includes both personal and small business cards.

Comments (200)

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  • Mark says:

    Another large fine from the FSA for Lloyds in the pipeline

  • Speedbird676 says:

    I received my letter on 5th March, but so far no new cards. I called Lloyds on 14th May and they confirmed no new cards had been issued yet.

    On my statement date, 16th May, I received a pro rata refund of my annual fee and my account number changed.

    On 17th May, a charge in euros (made on 13th May) posted to my account with an FX fee. I called Lloyds the next day and the agent said it was an error and she would refund the fee. Given it’s the weekend the refund hasn’t posted yet, so hopefully it will.

    I explained to her I hadn’t received the new card yet and queried what would happen if I make further non-sterling transactions on my cards. Her response was that there will be a one month overlap and that my current cards would stop working on my next statement date. In the meantime, those cards shouldn’t attract FX fees, but if they do to call and they would be refunded.

    As of yesterday both my current Amex and MasterCard as still working.

  • Peter says:

    I had my partial refund of the annual charge refunded on 15 May. On the same date I had two other Lloyd’s adjustments one crediting £5.10 and one debiting £5.10. I’ve no idea what these transactions are about though they cancel each other out!

    • The Lord says:

      I get these all the time for random amounts. Havent a clue what it is all about but they always cancel out

      • William says:

        Are you in a negative balance? This happens when the credit card ‘owes’ you money

  • Dc4yn says:

    Does Lloyds cancelling and replacing the card mean I’ve opened a new line of credit? This card is now effectively useless for me but I’ve kept it to keep my oldest record of credit

    • John says:

      Don’t think so otherwise every time you lose a card and get a new number it would also be considered a new account

  • Matt says:

    Currently abroad. Had received a letter dated 12 March. Amex was still working as of the 19th, but I noticed that the two most recent transactions have NOT appeared as pending on my account in the app. An Amex transaction that was made at just before 3am UK time on the 18th is shown as pending, and without an FX charge, but the next Amex one, which was 6 hours later at just before 9am on the same day, is not showing yet – I suspect I’ll be charged an FX fee from now on.

    • John says:

      Some transactions didn’t show up in pending at all, even before we knew they were going to close the card so I don’t think it necessarily means anything

    • Speedbird676 says:

      I find that occasional transaction don’t show up in “pending” and just post directly a few days later. Likewise, I’ve never seen the FX transaction fee show as pending, it only gets applied when the parent transaction actually posts.

      • Matt says:

        In my experience, contactless transactions don’t show up as pending (I believe this is because no authorisation is sought by the merchant system), but any transaction where the PIN was entered appears in the pending list. There’s never been an FX fee on the Lloyds cards until now, so it’s not possible to say if a transaction fee is included in the estimated Sterling amount pending.

  • Oli says:

    I called them on Friday and got told that from the date I receive the letter (hasn’t been sent yet), I’d still have at least 6 months to generate another upgrade voucher. The conversation was recorded so surely they’ll have to stick to that?

    • paulm says:

      You get until the end of the current card year. The letter will confirm the date when you get it

  • Arun says:

    What will this mean for the upgrade voucher – in the previous article, it said that we’d be able to earn one for the current year.

    I was hoping to put a big spend through and get one more voucher/

  • RC says:

    Has anyone worked out if 1.25 avios per £ is actually still being applied to Amex transactions? If FX fees have started appearing then presumably it’s possible that the earning rate may also have been incorrectly bumped to 0.4 per £?!

    • PB says:

      My account was transferred on 15/05. I noticed a number of Avios credited to my BAEC Account from Lloyds (out of sync with my usual statement date) at the weekend. I can only assume this is the Avios awarded at the old rates from my spend up to 15/05. And any spend after this date will be the new rate…

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