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Accor is still expiring your hotel points despite covid – what can you do?

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Most of the hotel loyalty programmes had generous rules over points expiry, even before coronavirus. Usually any activity, earning or spending, via a stay or with a partner, every 24 months or so was enough to keep your points alive.

Accor Live Limitless, owner of the Novotel, Ibis, Sofitel, Mercure etc brands, has decided to play hard ball with members.

During 2020 it had an amnesty on points expiry. On 15th December, this amnesty ended for non-status members.

Your Accor Live Limitless points will now expire on the 1-year anniversary of your last stay.

How can I stop my Accor Live Limitless points expiring?

Not only has Accor begun to expire points again, but it has substantially stricter rules than other programmes.

  • You need ‘activity’ in the previous 12 months to keep your points alive
  • Spending activity does NOT reset the clock – it must be earning activity
  • Technically your ‘earning’ activity must be a hotel stay, not partner activity. This rule has been relaxed, but Accor has virtually no ‘earn’ partners.

The problem, assuming that you can’t do an Accor hotel stay before your points expire, is that there are very few ways of earning Accor points without staying with them.

The main reason for this is the way that the programme is structured. Accor is a revenue based programme. 1 point get you 2 Eurocents of free hotel room.

This structure is unattractive to partners. Accor probably charges 2.5 Eurocents to partners to award you with 1 point, which you value at 2 Eurocents. You probably DON’T value an Accor point at 2 Eurocents, however, because clearly 2 Eurocents of cash is better than 2 Eurocents of hotel credit.

For a potential Accor partner, you are faced with paying Accor €2.50 to give your customer €2 of hotel credit which they don’t value as high as €2. Who would sign up to that?

Compare this to Avios. An Avios partner pays 1p to IAG Loyalty to give you 1 point. Most HfP readers value an Avios at more than 1p, so everyone wins. An Avios partner can spend £2 to give you 200 Avios which you value at more than £2.

How can I generate some Accor points?

There are a few ways of generating some Accor points and so keeping your existing points alive.

Option 1:

Transfer 4,000 Amex Membership Rewards points into 4,000 Flying Blue miles, the KLM / Air France loyalty programme. You can transfer those points onwards into 1,000 Accor Live Limitless points. Using 4,000 Amex points for €20 of hotel credit is a weak deal but you’ve kept your existing balance alive. This HfP article explains more about the Accor / Flying Blue partnership.

Option 2:

Transfer 3,500 Amex Membership Rewards points into 3,500 Finnair Plus miles. You can transfer those points onwards into 500 Accor Live Limitless points. This is a poorer deal than the Flying Blue option but you may prefer it if you want to conserve your Amex points. You can find out more on the Finnair website here.

Option 3:

Transfer 7,500 Amex Membership Rewards points into 500 Club Eurostar points. You can transfer those points onwards into 1,500 Accor Live Limitless points. This is a poorer deal for Amex cardholders than the Flying Blue route above, unless you already have some Club Eurostar points you can top up.

Option 4:

You can also transfer miles from Aegean, Azul, Hainan, LATAM, Oman Air, Qatar and Royal Air Maroc into Accor Live Limitless, although these are not that common amongst our readers. The list of Accor airline partners is here.

Sofitel Heathrow Accor

Option 5:

Join ClubOpinions, the Accor market research panel. This is free and you earn 250 points for your first survey which is enough to reset your expiry date. This HfP article explains more about ClubOpinions.

Option 6:

Rent a car from Europcar and credit the points to Accor. The Europcar / Accor landing page is here. This is not very practical under current restrictions, unfortunately. Accor is also a partner with Hertz and Avis, although Avis requires a 7+ day rental to earn with Accor.

Option 7:

Buy something online via the Accor shopping portal. Don’t forget to toggle to the UK page via the dropdown in the top left corner. The risk here is that the points take so long to arrive that your existing balance has expired in the interim. It is worth a go if your expiry date is still 3-4 months ahead.

Option 8:

Subscribe to The Economist via the special Accor deal. These deals are less attractive than the ones we see from Avios, however, and the points do not come close to covering the cost of the magazines.

Option 9:

Accor runs a confusing offer which lets you earn for eating or drinking in some of its hotels as a non-resident. The problem, of course, is that this is not an option until hotels re-open.

Visit this page of the Accor website which explains how it works. You need to download the Accor Live Limitless app and register your credit card details. When you make a food or drink purchase in one of the hotels listed on the site, and pay with the credit card you registered in advance, you earn 1 point per €1 spent. Importantly, you are promised the points within seven days.

Conclusion

Accor’s behaviour in expiring points in the current environment is something you should bear in mind when deciding where to stay in the future.

It is especially weird when you remember that Accor is a French business and is therefore in lockdown in its home market. I would have expected slightly different behaviour than you get from the US-owned chains, given that most US hotels are open.

The good news is that you should be able to save your Accor Live Limitless points if you plan ahead. ClubOpinions is a good place to start, and if that fails then you should consider an American Express Membership Rewards transfer via Finnair, Flying Blue or Club Eurostar.


Accor Live Limitless update – April 2024:

Earn bonus Accor points: Accor is not currently running a global promotion

New to Accor Live Limitless?  Read our review of Accor Live Limitless here and our article on points expiry rules here. Our analysis of what Accor Live Limitless points are worth is here.

Want to earn more hotel points?  Click here to see our complete list of promotions from Accor and the other major hotel chains or use the ‘Hotel Offers’ link in the menu bar at the top of the page.

Comments (92)

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  • Richard says:

    I’ve got a feeling I know the answer to this, but has anyone managed to persuade Accor to reinstate an expired points balance?

    • TGLoyalty says:

      Has anyone ever managed to get Accor to do anything via customer services!

      • Axel says:

        Yes,. after a stramash with them

        I also think they are rewarding hotel guests on previous (higher) status rather than current, which has dropped for most loyal members.

        I was told I was given platinum benefits during a stay before xmas because I had been platinum in 2018/19.

      • RussellH says:

        Yes, with no difficulty at all.
        Was struggling to part pay a booking with points a few years ago. Phoned up and a very pleasant woman sorted it all out for me in a few minutes.

    • The Savage Squirrel says:

      Prepare for a Gallic shrug when you ask…

    • Brian says:

      Yes. If you catch it early enough, they will generally offer to reinstate the points if you do a stay within a certain time.

    • Ikaz says:

      Twice on the same account, once before covid, they accepted as I was silver. Once during Covid with the offer stay 2 nights, get points reinstated (this one was actually a lot harder to get! It wasn’t automatic and they were not reading the emails)

  • TGLoyalty says:

    I use like Accor at all but did enjoy referring to The Savoy as one of a couple fairmont 🙂

    Sofitel, Fairmont, Pullman, Mantis,

    Novotel has some decent properties but Mercure seems very much a mixed bag of great properties and sh1t holes

    • Tony says:

      Most of the mercure are leftovers from Jupiter Hotels. No money has been spent on them for some time.

      • blenz101 says:

        A month in the Mecure Watford (or Hilton next door for that matter) would put you off ever wanting to stay in a hotel room again!

  • Dubious says:

    What’s Accor’s corporate and social responsibility like? It was one of the things that originally stood out for me (positively) compared to other brands that make a token effort.

    However, I am curious to know others thoughts – am I just gullible and a sucker for their marketing?

  • Tony says:

    Accor head office is very much hit and miss. Depends on the agent you get. Some are helpful and some are defiantly against the customer.

    The hotels in the franchises wag the Accor head office dog. The hotels pretty much have the final say on customer benefits and rewards. If a hotel lets you down on a stay, normally head office will back the hotel up.

    There (at the moment) is no representative on other forum sites – unlike other chain hotels.

    Accor points are used as a form of currency by some Accor hotels. They are known to give some refunds in points …. we stayed in France a few years ago, and hotel bad, complained, and instead of refunding card, gave points. Luckley “spent” these on the next stay elsewhere – but would be very upset if these were “expired”. There was no help from Accor HO about the refund, as they pointed out we had a refund as Accor points have a fixed value.

    They are doing some “stay” promotions for Accor Plus that will inflate the number of Platinum members, and thus devalue the benefits as most people will get Platinum now with only a few night stays ( its the sweet spot in the programme ), with no enhancement to Diamond or Black.

    When this is over, there will be a lot of either re flagged hotels or bankruptcies in the sector.

    • Chrisasaurus says:

      I was platinum not a many years ago and haven’t set foot in an accor property since (besides dining in the Sofitel St James restaurant)

      So since then they’ve added two tiers above it? It wasn’t terribly benefit rich even then so is it worth even less now?

      It seems strange that Hilton have I’m such a strong proposition in Gold tier and nobody else is really close – is Hilton bleeding revenue In giving away value or is it the others that have it wrong?

  • Ian says:

    The simplest way is to do a mattress run for a night, as I did between lockdowns in November. The price was derisory (just over £30) and, as the Ibis was closed, I was put into the adjacent Novotel. Can’t complain about that. I needed that one night to ensure I kept my status (and thanks to Rob for educating me about these things). For 2021 the number of nights needed for each status level has been reduced by half, each night you spend counting as 2 status nights. I was very warmly welcomed and I still find Accor a very good chain.

  • Ambient says:

    I have almost €250 in points with them at the moment. My way out of this was to attempt to book one of our regular trips to a Sofitel in Europe for Feb 2022, on a cancellable basis, and to use the points. But I was seemingly unable to use the points for this booking which frustrated me immensely. Anyone else found similar?

    • Lady London says:

      some hotels can apparently block points for specific rates.

      However I would advise you to call Accor asap if you can’t use your points as this happened to me last year. It turned out they’d blocked many accounts. So you could earn but not spend.

      They claimed these apparently large numbers of accounts were blocked due to some security in issue. Clearly Accor’s own ****id systems as no reason. Needless to say this was Accor in so they didn’t bother to inform anybody they did this.

      They will just want ID to unblock and I was really annoyed with them because fiddling about trying to use my points wasted a lot of my time and in my case there was no reason.

      Another manifestation of same problem is if system by won’t let you sign up to any promos.

      I hate Accor corporate and only use them when there’s no other choice especially near clients.

  • Tariq says:

    ALL are the pre-Avios partnership Nectar scheme of the hotel world. Having been shafted by them more times than I care to remember, I will never be in a rush to use the hotels or scheme again.

  • Nick says:

    Can you still transfer Accor points en masse into IB? If so then that would be another option to ‘rescue’ them before a hard expiry.

    Have to say (thankfully!) I don’t recognise a lot of the hate for Accor today. Spending a fair chunk of time in France they tend to be my go-to (not many Hiltons there!) – I don’t care much for the loyalty scheme but the hotels themselves are nearly always decent with good rates. Maybe I’ve just been lucky.

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