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Stuffed #1: How British Airways sharply devalued Avios for members outside the UK and US

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We’ve now had a bit of time to digest the changes to long haul Avios pricing on Wednesday.

As more examples come to light, it is clear that this is a major devaluation.

It has been disguised by giving a (roughly) 15% discount to UK members who use an Amex 2-4-1 voucher and who can afford to use the maximum number of Avios. Strip these people out and there are some serious underlying issues.

I will run through them over the next few days. The biggest problem is that anyone not based in the US and UK has seen an increase of up to 92%, more usually 45% to 60%, for long haul redemptions.

HfP is, of course, a UK site with an 80% UK readership. This 80% figure holds across all platforms – the site, our email list and social media. Another 10% is from the US.

What wasn’t clear to us on Wednesday is what has happened to people based outside the UK and US. Long haul Reward Flight Saver is not available outside these countries.

The ‘top’ RFS price is the new Avios ‘base’ price

There is one thing you need to know which wasn’t obvious when the changes were announced. The ‘headline’ RFS price is now the BASE Avios redemption price.

Let me explain what I mean.

On Tuesday, the base price for Club World to New York, for an off peak return, was 100,000 Avios + £850.

On Wednesday, the base price for Club World to New York, an off peak return, changed to 160,000 Avios + £850. There was a whopping 60% increase in the number of Avios needed.

However, if you live in the UK or US and qualify for Reward Flight Saver, you will pay a reduced rate of 160,000 Avios + £350. You can choose other combinations, including the old price of 100,000 Avios + £850, if you wish, so you don’t need to be worse off.

What happens if you don’t live in the UK or US?

Let me show you. Here is the New York booking I discussed above, booked via an account which doesn’t qualify for long haul Reward Flight Saver:

How does 160,000 Avios + £850 for a return off-peak Club World flight to New York sound?

If you live in France, Germany, Dubai, Singapore, Spain, whatever …. you’re in big trouble. British Airways has hung you out to dry. There is no way for you to qualify for long haul Reward Flight Saver because it is only available to people who live in the UK or US.

(Well, you could change the address on your BA account. This would block you from holding any local BA financial products, however, and you can’t swap your address back for six months.)

Some examples from Germany

If you can read German, or are happy to use Google Translate, German site meilenoptimieren.com gives other examples.

For example, priced using a German BAEC account:

  • Economy one-way from London to New York on Tuesday: 13,000 Avios + €318
  • Economy one-way from London to New York on Wednesday: 25,000 Avios + €318
  • Business one-way from London to Dubai on Tuesday: 60,000 Avios + €540
  • Business one-way from London to Dubai on Wednesday: 90,000 Avios + €540
  • Business return from London to Miami on Tuesday: 137,500 Avios + €985
  • Business return from London to Miami on Wednesday: 200,000 Avios + €985

These three examples represent an increase of 92%, 50% and 45% respectively.

UK and US residents can also lose Reward Flight Saver pricing

Even if you do live in the UK or US, you can still come a cropper.

I admit that it is unlikely for HfP readers, but any Executive Club member who fails to earn an Avios in a 12 month period loses the right to Reward Flight Saver. There are plenty of UK and US members who are also now facing a 45%-60% rise in long haul premium cabin redemption pricing.

There are other articles to come next week which will look at how BA has stuffed people with ‘old style’ 2-4-1 Amex vouchers and how it has increased fees or – where blocked by law – the Avios required from low tax departure points.


How to earn Avios from UK credit cards

How to earn Avios from UK credit cards (April 2024)

As a reminder, there are various ways of earning Avios points from UK credit cards.  Many cards also have generous sign-up bonuses!

In February 2022, Barclaycard launched two exciting new Barclaycard Avios Mastercard cards with a bonus of up to 25,000 Avios. You can apply here.

You qualify for the bonus on these cards even if you have a British Airways American Express card:

Barclaycard Avios Plus card

Barclaycard Avios Plus Mastercard

Get 25,000 Avios for signing up and an upgrade voucher at £10,000 Read our full review

Barclaycard Avios card

Barclaycard Avios Mastercard

5,000 Avios for signing up and an upgrade voucher at £20,000 Read our full review

There are two official British Airways American Express cards with attractive sign-up bonuses:

British Airways American Express Premium Plus

25,000 Avios and the famous annual 2-4-1 voucher Read our full review

British Airways American Express

5,000 Avios for signing up and an Economy 2-4-1 voucher for spending £15,000 Read our full review

You can also get generous sign-up bonuses by applying for American Express cards which earn Membership Rewards points. These points convert at 1:1 into Avios.

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold

Your best beginner’s card – 20,000 points, FREE for a year & four airport lounge passes Read our full review

The Platinum Card from American Express

40,000 bonus points and a huge range of valuable benefits – for a fee Read our full review

Run your own business?

We recommend Capital on Tap for limited companies. You earn 1 Avios per £1 which is impressive for a Visa card, along with a sign-up bonus worth 10,500 Avios.

Capital on Tap Business Rewards Visa

Huge 30,000 points bonus until 12th May 2024 Read our full review

You should also consider the British Airways Accelerating Business credit card. This is open to sole traders as well as limited companies and has a 30,000 Avios sign-up bonus.

British Airways Accelerating Business American Express

30,000 Avios sign-up bonus – plus annual bonuses of up to 30,000 Avios Read our full review

There are also generous bonuses on the two American Express Business cards, with the points converting at 1:1 into Avios. These cards are open to sole traders as well as limited companies.

American Express Business Platinum

40,000 points sign-up bonus and an annual £200 Amex Travel credit Read our full review

American Express Business Gold

20,000 points sign-up bonus and FREE for a year Read our full review

Click here to read our detailed summary of all UK credit cards which earn Avios. This includes both personal and small business cards.

Comments (200)

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  • mattnav_travel says:

    Thank you Rob, for lending a voice to us non-UK/US readers who indeed got the sour end of the deal in this update.

  • Mark says:

    If my BA account is not registered in UK or USA, can I still book without reward flight saver?

    Other than not earning Avios for a year what other options are their for old pricing?

    • Rob says:

      You can’t get the old pricing.

      If you can’t get RFS you now pay, as per the article, 160k + £850 to NY off peak.

  • BJ says:

    Given that many HfP readers book rewards t-355 then call or go online to add the return sometime later, do we as UK residents still have access to the RFS pricing when adding the return sector back to the UK or are we now stuffed like those outside the UK and US? If we cannot access the RFS price to add the return leg online, can we still get round that by calling to add it I wonder? If we’re stuffed with this too then the t-355 game-play is effectively over. Similarly, if we use the new-style amex companion voucher starting outside the UK do we still get RFS pricing being UK residents, or now only when starting from UK or USA?

    • Rhys says:

      The RFS pricing is added to the booking account, it is NOT dependent on where you are flying or what booking you are making.

      So if your BAEC account is domiciled in the UK or US and you have earned an Avios in the past year, you have RFS pricing regardless.

      The problem is for anyone who isn’t eligible for RFS, which is anyone whose BAEC is registered outside the UK and US.

      • Josh says:

        Don’t understand.

        My account is registered in Israel and I now have RFS? Should the pricing not be the same as always as not registered in UK or USA?

        • Rob says:

          Flights from TLV to London have seen the worst devaluation – price it up.

          • MoJack says:

            At least LHR-TLV has seen a turn for the better…. overall it roughly balances out…

          • Steve says:

            Do you have the old pricing on this route? I’m trying to work out if LHR – TLV has got better or worse.

          • Rob says:

            Hit is on ex-TLV. Numbers are in a comment from yesterday.

        • john says:

          You have new pricing, but its not RFS, it’s just worse than before.

      • BJ says:

        Got it Rhys, thanks!

    • Vinnyp says:

      I did exactly this yesterday.. It was the first one the operator had done but since the outbound was pre RFS she said she needed to most closely match that. I think we ended up at close to the same taxes etc and certainly the same avios.

  • Stephen Eaves says:

    Hi . Not strictly connected but when booking with a Barclays upgrade voucher are avios and tier points awarded. Thank you in advance

  • Nick says:

    Thanks for the article.
    Just prior to Wednesday I managed to grab 6 days in CPT at the end of next month for 125,000 Avios plus £1500 of taxes (going with a mate). Seems like it was good timing to book last weekend!
    Can anyone tell me why one of my 2-4-1 vouchers, earned in Feb ‘21, now omits ‘Premium Plus’ in its title in my Amex site and will only allow me to book Economy seats…? I was trying to use my oldest voucher to book the CPT trip but soon realised why it wouldn’t let me book Club seats.
    Why have BA – or Amex? – downgraded this voucher…??
    Thanks…

  • Stagger Lee says:

    Well that’s annoying. We have 5 2-4-1s but 2 of them are the old style. had I had planned to book something with one of them this week but not sure it’s worth it now. I might just let them expire. Hey ho

    • jj says:

      Plenty of value to be had from old-style FTVs on Club Europe. Peak return to Athens or the Canaries would save you 40,000 Avios.

      • Stagger Lee says:

        Cheers. I’ll have a look at that . Will give me an excuse for a couple of city breaks.

  • Travelbloggerbuzz says:

    Yikes…Looks like BA is becoming Delta with hideous devaluation AND marketing speak to inform members that all these are enhancements lol

  • David says:

    How do prices compare with “part pay with Avios” now?

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